Greening Ireland: Daga Dazuzzukan Aljihu zuwa Woodlands na asali Tare da Catherine Cleary, S4, E11

Greening Ireland: Daga Dazuzzukan Aljihu zuwa Yankunan Woodlands Tare da Catherine Cleary

'Greening Ireland: Daga Aljihu gandun daji zuwa ƴan ƙasa Woodlands Tare da Catherine Cleary' siffa ce ta halitta Sarah Austin.

Kwanan nan mun ji daɗin magana da Catherine Cleary, marubuci, jarida, kuma Shugaba & Co-kafa Pocket Forests. Wanda ya rubuta kuma tare da haɗin gwiwa 4 littattafai kuma ta kasance mai sukar gidan cin abinci na Irish Times fiye da shekaru 10, Catherine yanzu ta mai da hankalinta ga yanayi, aikin sauyin yanayi da Greening Ireland.

A cikin 2020, Catherine ta fara ayyuka guda biyu: na ɗaya, don kafa masana'antar zamantakewa da ke dasa kananan gandun daji a cikin jama'a yankunan, da ɗayan kuma, don shuka nata itacen daji a fadin kadada 40 na fili.

Dajin Aljihu sana'a ce ta zamantakewa da ke kawo yanayi cikin garuruwa da biranen da ke kusa da Ireland ta hanyar ƙirƙirar aljihu na bishiyoyi da bishiyoyi a cikin al'ummomi.

A wannan episode daga cikin Muryoyi Masu Gina podcast, Muna bincika aikin gandun daji na Pocket a cikin korewar birni na Ireland da rawar da suke takawa wajen sake haɗa al'ummominmu da yanayi.

Mun kuma tattauna balaguron sirri na Catherine wajen ƙirƙirar gandun daji na asali, shirin ungozoma na Forest, da kuma halayen masu mallakar ƙasa wajen dasa gandun daji.

Catherine Cleary Greening Ireland Cikakken Podcast Episode

Hoton Bayanan Bayani na Catherine Cleary
Hoton Catherine Cleary

"Dajin shine tushen dukkan rayuwa; ciki ne ke farfado da illolin halittu, wanda ke kara zurfafa hazakarmu kuma yana kara mana hankali a matsayinmu na 'yan adam"

Akira Miyawaki [1]

Woodland

Gandun daji a Ireland

Duk da cewa kashi 80% na kasar an taba rufe dazuzzuka. IrelandAn kiyasta yankin dazuzzukan ya kai hekta 808,848, ko kuma kashi 11.6% na yawan fili [2]. A cikin wannan kashi 11%, kashi tara cikin dari na ƙasar ana shuka su ne da bishiya mai saurin girma jinsunan kamar spruces don samar da katako cikin sauri, yayin da kashi 2% kawai ake shuka shi da bishiyoyin faɗin ƙasa [3]. Sitka spruce shine nau'in bishiyar da aka fi sani a Ireland, wanda ke da kashi 44.6% na yawan gandun daji [4].

Kasar na da burin noman gandun daji na hekta 8,000 a kowace shekara, tare da burin kaiwa 18% na gandun daji nan da shekarar 2050; duk da haka, shuka ya ci gaba da gazawa ga wannan burin [5].

A kashi 11.6%, Ireland tana ɗaya daga cikin mafi ƙanƙantar dazuzzuka na kowace ƙasa a cikin Tarayyar Turai, wanda ke da matsakaicin ɗaukar hoto na 39% [6, 2].

Kasashen da ke da mafi girman kaso na gandun daji a cikin EU sune Finland (66%), Sweden (63%), Slovenia (58%), Estonia (54%) da Latvia (53%) [6].

Ƙasar Ireland

Dabarun gandun daji na Ireland 2022-2030

Dabarun gandun daji na Ireland yana ba da tsari don faɗaɗa gandun daji na ƙasa tsakanin 2022 da 2030 don ƙirƙirar fa'idodi masu dorewa ga gandun daji. yanayi, al'umma da tattalin arziki, kuma ya kafa harsashin shirin Gandun daji 2023-2027 [7].

An tsara Dabarun a kusa da ka'idodin jagora na "Bishiyoyin da suka dace a wuraren da suka dace don dalilai masu kyau tare da ingantaccen kulawa", tare da burin samar da ayyuka da yawa, gandun daji daban-daban, masu la'akari da mutane, Duniya da wadata [7].

Shirin Gandun daji yana nufin samar da gandun daji iri-iri, masu aiki da yawa waɗanda “ƙarfafa tattalin arziƙin al’ummomin karkara, kare muhallinmu da kuma waɗanda suke da juriya ta fuskar fuska canjin yanayi. " [7]

Urban Greening Ireland

Tare da kashi 64% na yawan mutanen Ireland suna zaune a cikin birane kuma wannan kashi a hankali yana ƙaruwa [8], yana da mahimmanci cewa ƙoƙarin "kore" Ireland bai iyakance ga yankunan karkara ba. Yankunan birane suna fama da babban tasirin sauyin yanayi, da tasiri kayayyakin da kuma kiwon lafiya [9]

Misali, yankunan birni suna fuskantar Urban Heat Island sakamako, sakamakon abubuwa kamar yawan adadin siminti da sauran kayan shafe zafi da ƙarancin ciyayi [10]. Duk da haka, yankunan birni suma sune manyan masu ba da gudummawa ga warming duniya, kasancewa alhakin kashi 70% na iskar CO2 na duniya [9].

Sanarwa daga hira da Nadina Galle

Garin Gari tsari ne na gabatar da ciyayi da kore wurare cikin garuruwa don ƙirƙirar garuruwa masu dorewa tare da ingantaccen ingancin rayuwa [11]. Green Kayayyakin Kaya zai iya taimaka mana mu cimma wannan.

Green Lantarki an bayyana ta Hukumar Tarayyar Turai kamar yadda "Cibiyar hanyar sadarwa ta dabarun da aka tsara na wurare na halitta da na dabi'a tare da wasu fasalulluka na muhalli, an tsara su kuma an gudanar da su don sadar da kewayon da yawa. sabis na yanayin tsirrai, yayin da kuma inganta halittun halittu" [12]. Nau'in kayayyakin more rayuwa kore sun hada da al'umma woodlands, kofofin koren, gyara shimfidar wuri, bishiyoyin titi, wuraren shakatawa na birane da lambuna, da yankuna [13]

Koren kayayyakin more rayuwa a garuruwanmu da garuruwanmu na iya haɓakawa yan adam ayyuka, kamar ingancin iska da ka'idojin yanayi, da rage matsananciyar al'amura, da kuma ka'idojin ruwa, don haka ragewa ko rage al'amura kamar tasirin tsibirin Heat na Urban da ambaliya [14]. Lokacin da aka tsara da kuma kiyaye su daidai, koren kayayyakin more rayuwa kamar ciyayi na al'umma da lambuna na iya ba da sarari don nishaɗi da nishaɗi. namun daji [13], ingantawa bambancin rayuwa, haɓaka yanayin da haɗin kai na yankunan halitta, inganta lafiyar tunani da jiki, da haɓaka haɗin kai na zamantakewa [14, 12].

Gandun daji na Aljihu don Greener Ireland

Catherine Cleary da Ashe Conrad-Jones, wadanda suka kafa gandun daji na Aljihu
Catherine Cleary da Ashe Conrad-Jones, wadanda suka kafa gandun daji na Aljihu. Hoton Pocket Forests

Dajin Aljihu sana'a ce ta zamantakewa da ke kawo yanayi cikin garuruwa da biranen da ke kusa da Ireland ta hanyar ƙirƙirar aljihu na bishiyoyi da bishiyoyi a cikin al'ummomi [15]. Shirin yana tallafawa namun daji na asali kuma yana kawo mutane kusa da yanayi.

An kafa kungiyar a cikin Dublin a cikin 2020 ta Ashe Conrad-Jones da Catherine Cleary. Suna aiki tare da al'ummomi kamar makarantu, ƙungiyoyin mazauna, kulake na wasanni, jami'o'i, kasuwanci, masu ba da lafiya, ƙungiyoyin gidaje da kuma masu lambu masu zaman kansu [16].

Tun daga shekara ta 2020, ƙungiyar gandun daji na Pocket sun tallafa wa al'ummomi don dasa dazuzzukan aljihu sama da ɗari, wanda ya kai girman daga teburin ping-pong zuwa rabin filin wasan tennis, kai tsaye tare da mutane sama da 1,500 na kowane zamani tare da dasa bishiyoyi kusan 5,000 [17].

Menene Dajin Aljihu?

Dajin aljihu shine a reforestation hanyar da ta dace da yankunan birane da masanin ilmin kiwo na Japan ya haɓaka Akira Miyawaki wanda ya ƙunshi ƙirƙirar dazuzzuka masu yawa, dazuzzuka masu yawa a cikin ƙananan yankuna [18].

Dajin aljihu a makaranta
Ladabi na Pocket Forest

Tushen Hanyar Shuka Miyawaki [18]:

  • Nau'in Tsirrai - Nau'in asali sun dace da yanayin gida kuma suna iya tallafawa wasu nau'ikan 'yan asali, inganta lafiya, kwanciyar hankali yan adam.
  • Girman Shuka - Ana shuka tsire-tsire kusa da juna kamar yadda za'a samu a cikin yanayin yanayin gandun daji, yana ƙarfafa tsire-tsire don tallafawa juna, don haka yana haifar da girma cikin sauri.
  • Shirye-shiryen ƙasa - Ƙasar tana wadatar da kayan halitta kamar takin don haɓaka haɓakar shuka. Ƙungiyar Pocket Forests tana aiki permaculture hanyoyin, wanda ke rage damuwa da ƙasa [1].
  • Babu Sinadarai – Hanyoyi na dabi'a na kariyar tsire-tsire, kamar aikace-aikacen takin zamani da dasa shuki, an fifita su da magungunan kashe qwari da takin zamani, suna haɓaka ingantaccen yanayin muhalli.
  • Karamin Kulawa - Gandun daji yana buƙatar kulawa kaɗan bayan farkon lokacin girma na shekaru 2-3, bayan haka tsarin yanayin yanayin yanayin zai iya ɗaukar nauyin, barin gandun daji ya yi aiki da kansa. [18]

Ƙungiyar Pocket Forests tana amfani da wasu daga cikin waɗannan fasahohin, tare da mai da hankali kan dasa bishiyoyi, shrubs da shuke-shuken ƙasa waɗanda suka kasance na ƙasar Ireland, kayan sake amfani da su, da kuma ƙarancin damuwa ga muhalli [1].

Gina al'umma

Ciki har da al'umma a duk matakai na tsare-tsare da tsarin gudanarwa ana daukar su da mahimmanci wajen ƙirƙirar wuraren gandun daji na al'umma masu nasara [13]. Wannan ƙima ce ta asali a cikin aikin gandun daji na Aljihu, wanda ke haɗa al'umma cikin jerin tarurrukan bita, tun daga shirye-shiryen ƙasa zuwa dasa shuki, don kulawa da kula da sabon dajin da aka kafa [16].

Yana ba da damar yin aiki mai kyau ga muhalli, don koyan yadda za a inganta yanayi a cikin lambunansu a gida, da kuma ɗaukar nauyin gudanarwa na rabawa. fili [15]

Aikin kungiyar gandun daji na Aljihu ya dogara ne akan dabi'u masu zuwa [15]:

  • Girman Al'umma - sake sabunta al'ummomi tare da juna da duniyar halitta.
  • Mutuncin Muhalli - rage girman tasirin muhalli ta hanyar amfani da tsire-tsire masu tsire-tsire, tafiye-tafiye masu ƙarancin hayaki, da ƙarancin amfani guda ɗaya roba.
  • Dasa Saplings na Ƙasar da suka girma Irish - Tallafawa tsire-tsire da dabbobi na asali.
  • Sake Haɓaka Ƙasa ta hanyar Mayar da Kayayyakin Sharar gida - Sake amfani da kayan halitta kamar kwali, niƙa kofi da takin abinci.

Haɓaka ɗan asalin Woodland

A cikin 2020, Catherine da mijinta sun sayi gonar gona mai girman eka 40 a County Roscommon, da nufin haɓaka ciyawar daji. An dasa kadada ashirin da bakwai na ƙasar da bishiyoyi na asali, tare da sauran kadada 13 da suka bar daji don samar da wani nau'in wurin zama na yanayi [19].

Bayan dasa itatuwa 6,000 da hannu, tare da taimakon ‘yan uwa da abokan arziki, kwararrun masu shukar sun kara dasa itatuwa 18,000. Bishiyoyin 24,000 da aka dasa sun haɗa da nau'ikan nau'ikan nau'ikan Irish iri-iri: Birch, Scots pine, hazel, willow, alder, apple apple, da sessile da pedunculate oaks, tare da shirye-shiryen ƙara ƙarin nau'ikan: ceri, rowan, poplar black, aspen, whitebeam, spindle, guelder rose da holly [19].

Jagorar Catherine Cleary don gina gandun daji [19]:

  1. “A nemo wani gandun daji mai rijista a yankinku.
  2. Ka tambaye su su ziyarci ƙasar don tantance ta don yuwuwar ta a matsayin itace. Ba a ko'ina ba ya dace da katako. A cikin wuraren zama na musamman, abin da aka riga ya kasance yana iya yin aiki mafi kyau ga yanayi da bambancin halittu fiye da kowane daji.
  3. Idan ƙasar ta dace, mai gandun daji zai nemi lasisi a madadin ku. Za ku sanya hannu kan takarda mai yawa.
  4. Idan an ba da lasisi, za ku iya yin aiki tare da gandun daji don dasa sashi ko duka da kanku, ko kuma su samo muku su dasa. Kudin kafa shinge, bishiyoyi da dasa shuki ana rufe su da tallafi daga Sashen Noma, Abinci da Ruwa. Kuna iya dasa nau'ikan gandun daji da dama. Idan sha'awar ku shine sauyin yanayi da bambancin halittu, ɗayan mafi kyawun zaɓuɓɓuka shine ci gaba da rufe filayen katako. Idan kuna son noma ƙasa, ku dasa agroforestry: manyan bishiyoyi masu fa'ida waɗanda za su inganta ƙasa, samar da wurin zama ga namun daji, matsuguni da abinci mai yuwuwa ga dabbobin gona da samar da kyakkyawan gonakin halittu.
  5. Kalli kuma ku ji daɗin namun daji. Idan ka gina shi za su zo.”

Documentary Ungozoma

Ungozomar daji gajeriyar shirin fina-finai ce, biyo bayan tafiyar Catherine Cleary wajen sauya gonaki a Co. Roscommon, Ireland, zuwa gandun daji da namun daji [20].

Kuna iya ziyartar gidan yanar gizon su don nemo abin dubawa kusa da ku: Ungozomar daji - Events

Sake haɗawa da yanayi

Yana da mahimmanci mu yi aiki don maido da gandun daji na Ireland don magance batutuwa kamar sauyin yanayi da asarar rayuwa. Lallai akwai buƙatar faɗuwar kiwo da sake dazuzzuka a ƙasar Ireland, don cimma burin mu na murfin gandun daji na 18%, da kuma cimma manufofin sabon dabarun gandun daji na EU [21]. Koyaya, bai kamata a keɓance yanayi zuwa wurare masu nisa ba. Dole ne mu yi aiki don ƙirƙirar ma'anar ban tsoro da sadaukarwa game da yanayi, kuma don yin wannan, dole ne mu dawo da yanayi zuwa wuraren da muke rayuwa.

Ta yaya za mu yi tsammanin sake haɗawa da yanayi ba tare da ganin ta ba?

Akwai ɗimbin hanyoyi da za mu iya haɓaka yanayin gida a ƙauye da birane, ko shuka wasu irin furannin daji a gida, dasa itace a cikin karkara, ko ƙirƙirar daji mai girman tebur na ping pong a makarantarku ko wurin aiki.

Ko da yake waɗannan ayyuka guda ɗaya suna da kankanin kai tsaye tasiri akan rikice-rikicen muhalli da muke fuskanta, suna iya ba da gudummawa ga faɗuwar motsi na aikin muhalli ta hanyar samar da hanyar sadarwa na wuraren zama - ko da gandun daji na aljihu na iya samar da matsuguni da abinci da ake bukata ga namun daji na gida - kuma ta hanyar dawo da yanayi a cikin ra'ayi da hankalinmu. A yin haka, za mu iya koyan sake yaba shi don hidimarsa da kyawunsa, kuma za mu iya wayar da kan jama'a game da bukatar kiyaye yanayi.

Ka yi tunanin yawan bishiyoyi da za mu samu idan kowace al'umma ta dasa dajin aljihu.

Dasa dajin aljihu
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Other Resources

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Mini-jerin da ke nuna Dr Nadina Galle yana samuwa a:

Dr Nadina Galle Podcast Mini-Series

 

Greening Ireland tare da Catherine Cleary Cikakken Rubutun

Lura cewa an ƙirƙira wannan ta hanyar lambobi kuma yana iya ƙunsar wasu kurakurai.

[00:00:00] Wannan Muryoyi Masu Ingantawa. Sauti masu Haɓakawa, kwasfan fayiloli don yi mutane masu ra'ayin labarai da gwani tambayoyi.

Jackie De Burca: Sannu a gare ku. Wannan shi ne Jackie De Burca a nan don Muryoyin Masu Haɓakawa, kuma a yau zan sake mika wa Sarah wadda ta yi hira mai ban mamaki, wasu lokuta biyu baya, kuma za ta yi magana da Catherine Cleary.

Catherine mace ce mai ban sha'awa sosai. Marubuciya ce, ɗan jarida, kuma shugabar kuma mai haɗin gwiwar Pocket Forests. Catherine tana tare da mu a yau don tattauna ayyukanta game da gandun daji da korewar birane. Ta rubuta kuma ta haɗa littattafai guda huɗu kuma ta kasance mai sukar gidan abinci don Irish Times ɗin su fiye da shekaru 10.

Amma kwanakin nan, Catherine ta mai da hankalinta ga yanayi da ayyukan yanayi. A cikin 2020, ta fara ayyuka guda biyu. Daya shi ne kafa wani zamantakewa masana'antu shuka [00:01:00] kananan dazuzzuka a yankunan al'umma, kuma sauran aikin shine shuka nata na itacen daji a fadin kasa mai girman eka 40. Zan mika miki yanzu Sarah.

Ina maraba da ku, Catherine.

Sarah Austin: Catherine, kuna maraba sosai. Mun gode sosai don shiga mu. Kuna so ku ɗauki ɗan lokaci don gabatar da kanku?

Catherine Cleary: Ee. Sunana Catherine Cleary. Ni co-kafa Pocket Forests kuma marubuci kuma ɗan jarida.

Sarah Austin: Don haka ina so in ƙara koyo game da Ƙungiyar dajin Aljihu.

Za ku iya bayyana mana menene wannan kuma abin da ya ja hankalin ku don kafa shi?

Catherine Cleary: Da kyau, mun kafa dazuzzuka na Aljihu da kaina kuma, kuma wanda ya kafa Ashe Conrad Jones a baya a cikin 2020 lokacin da nake tunanin mutane da yawa suna tunani daban game da duniya saboda abin da ya faru da COVID. Lallai a yankinmu na birnin Dublin inda muke da ɗan koren sarari, um, hakan ya kasance ba zato ba tsammani, uh, ainihin gaggawa, um.

Namu, ina tsammanin, kuma Ash ya sami wannan ra'ayi, wanda ya samo asali a Japan a cikin 1970s, um, [00:02:00] da ake kira, uh, an kira abubuwa daban-daban daban-daban, amma gandun daji na Miyawaki, uh, mai suna bayan masanin ilimin botanist, Akira Miyawaki, masanin kiwo na Japan wanda, uh, ya fara aikin. Sannan ya zo Turai a cikin 2015 kuma an sake yi masa baftisma kanana dazuzzuka.

Don haka kawai muka fara magana da masana wanda ya yi shi a ko'ina, uh, Turai da Ireland kuma. Akwai, akwai ƙungiyar da suke yin abin da suke kira Coill Beag, suna aiki tare da Anka a cikin shirin makarantu. Don haka da zarar mun kai hannu, muka gano. Ba wai kawai ya kasance mai yuwuwa da ban sha'awa ba, amma cewa a zahiri akwai ƙwarewa da yawa a can waɗanda za mu iya, za mu iya shiga.

Don haka muka tashi muka dasa dazuzzukanmu na farko a cikin 20 hunturu na 2020 da bazara na 2021.

Sarah Austin: Kuma nawa ne daga cikin wadannan dazuzzukan aljihu ka yi?

Catherine Cleary: Mun kai kusan 125 a halin yanzu. Ina tsammanin wasu daga cikinsu za su yi ƙanƙanta sosai. Eh, girman mota ɗaya parking sarari. Um Sannan sauran zasu kasance [00:03:00] mafi girma.

Mafi girman mu shine, kusan murabba'in mita ɗari, wanda kusan rabin filin wasan tennis ne.

Sarah Austin: Kai. Don haka, ina nufin, ga wadanda ba su sani ba, me, me ya kunsa dajin aljihu? Yaya ya bambanta da, watakila samun lambun birni na yau da kullun ko gadon fure wanda zaku iya samu a gida ko a makaranta?

Catherine Cleary: Ee, yana da, yana da ban sha'awa sosai don irin gano menene al'adun shimfidar birane. Don haka a al'adance muna yin ciyawa da yawa, don haka za mu kira shi wuri mai kore. Wuri mai koren lokacin da akwai ƙasa mai sirara kuma kawai, ciyawar ciyawa, sa'an nan kuma yawanci ana yanka shi zuwa cikin inci ɗaya na rayuwarsa a lokacin bazara, kodayake babu wani abu da ke faruwa.

Sannan tare da dasa bishiyoyi, ana dasa bishiyoyin da ba su da sarari sosai. Tare da waɗancan wuraren ciyawa a tsakanin su, akwai dalilai daban-daban da aka bayar game da wannan, um, layin gani, uh, wasu ƙananan hukumomi kuma, kuma mutane ba su da, wasu ba su da farin ciki sosai game da ra'ayin rashin iya ganin abin da ke faruwa a ko'ina a kowane, kowane wuri na jama'a.

Don haka abin da muke yi ya bambanta sosai [00:04:00] cewa. Muna dasa bishiyoyi da yawa fiye da yadda aka saba dasa. bulala ce ta shekara 2 kawai, don haka ƙanƙanta ne. An dasa shi a lokacin hunturu, um, kuma an dasa shi sosai tare kusan uku a kowace murabba'in mita, um, wanda zai yi yawa sosai idan aka kwatanta da shimfidar wuri na gargajiya a birane.

Amma sakamakon shine suna ƙirƙirar wannan microclimate da sauri. Ƙasa tana canzawa, um, kuma muna yin ɗan ƙaramin aikin kafin mu shuka wani abu kuma. Wannan wani bangare ne na bambancin dajin Aljihu da nake tsammani. Muna yin taron shirye-shiryen ƙasa tare da al'ummomin da ke ƙoƙarin kwaikwayon yanayin. Dajin daji ta hanyar zubar da ciyawa da kuma ƙara kayan itace kafin a dasa bishiyoyi.

Sannan mu dawo lokacin da suke tsirowa a wannan lokaci na shekara, Mayu, Yuni, da, um, suna nuna wa mutane abin da suka shuka domin suna iya gane shi a yanzu da siffar ganye da kuma. Ka sani, ka sa su ji daɗin wannan tunanin cewa wannan daji ne da suke da shi a yanzu. Za su iya kula da shi, za su iya amfani da shi azaman wurin taro na waje ko aji.

Um, kuma, kuma wuri ne mai daɗi don zama. Kuma [00:05:00] Haka kuma arzikin kwari da rayuwar tsuntsaye da rayuwar kasa, wanda hakan zai haifar da godiyar kokarinsu. Don haka yana da matuƙar tushen al'umma. Bugu da ƙari, wannan ba al'ada ba ne na shimfidar birane. Aikin kenan. Hakan ya sa ‘yan kwangila su yi hakan. Eh, kwanan nan na yi wasu a unguwarmu, ka san sun killace wani wuri, su shigo da injina, ka san maza masu kariyar kunne suna aikin.

Eh, don haka akwai ɗan haɗin kai daga mutanen gida waɗanda ke zaune a yankin. Duk da yake ina tsammanin idan mutanen yankin da ke zaune a wannan yanki suna taimakawa wajen samar da sararin samaniya, kuma sun fi dacewa su kula da shi kuma su yi farin ciki da shi.

Sarah Austin: Lallai. Da zarar ka shagaltu da shi, yawan kulawar da kake da shi, yawan ƙaunar da kake da shi.

Catherine Cleary: Yeah

Sarah Austin: kuma na tabbata kamar yadda da yawa daga cikinmu suka tsunduma cikin ɗan aikin lambu a lokacin bala'in, ina tsammanin hakan ya sa mutane su kasance da alaƙa da yanayi, suna da alaƙa da abincin da suke girma, tare da tsire-tsire da ke kewaye da su. Kuna gane ƙoƙarin da ke ciki kuma ina tsammanin mutane sun fi dacewa su biya [00:06:00] mai da hankali ga wannan kuma da fatan yin amfani da albarkatun kuma.

Catherine Cleary: Ee, wannan, kalmar hankali. Mu, mun kasance, uh, mun yi taron tattaunawa a wannan makon a zahiri, kuma kalmar hankali ita ce kalmar gida. Ka sani, lokacin da muka mai da hankali ga abubuwa, yana, uh, Mary Oliver, mawaƙi, yana da layi mai ban sha'awa "Hankali shine farkon sadaukarwa". Don haka idan muka mai da hankali ga abubuwan da wataƙila ba mu taɓa lura da su ba, lokacin da muka san irin bishiya ɗaya sannan mu ganta a ko'ina.

Akwai wani abu mai ban sha'awa da ke faruwa ga duka, yanayin kanta da yadda mutane za su kula da su, amma kuma namu, namu hankali ga hankali. Ina tsammanin muna, muna kula da wani abu wanda ya fi girma kuma a waje da kanmu, amma yana da alaƙa da mu kuma yana da lafiya sosai. Ka sani, da zarar mun ba shi yanayin da ya dace kadan ne kawai za mu yi don taimaka wa wannan ci gaba, kuma ina ganin hakan yana da daɗi sosai.

Tabbas yayin COVID, Ina tsammanin mutane sun sami jan hankali ga hakan. Ba su fahimci dalilin da ya sa ba, amma su, sun so su isa yanayi kuma, kuma su ga wani abu da ke aiki kuma, kuma ba ya faduwa kamar yadda yake so. [00:07:00]

Sarah Austin: Mm. Kuma wa za ku yi aiki da galibi? Shin zai kasance tare da makarantu da yawa ko wasu kungiyoyi?

Catherine Cleary: Ee, makarantu suna da girma kuma yana da kyau a yi aiki tare da makarantar saboda sun mallaki rukunin yanar gizon su, sannan kuma za su iya zuwa nan gaba.

Eh, ka sani, za mu ci gaba da haɓaka kowane irin ra'ayi don su yi amfani da daji, ko da yin amfani da kayan dajin don kawo su cikin sana'a ko aikin katako, um, sassan makaranta da koyo. Don haka makarantu suna da kyau. Mun kuma yi aiki tare da kasuwancin da za su sami nasu sarari ko za su dauki nauyin makaranta ko a, dajin al'umma na gida.

Eh, ƙungiyoyin zama suna da kyau kuma. Eh, muna aiki da. Da dama na kananan hukumomi kuma. Wani aiki mai ban sha'awa a Garin Monaghan a wannan shekara inda muke yin ayyuka daban-daban guda takwas a kusa da ƙananan wuraren kore. Eh, duk suna da alaƙa da al'ummomi da mazauna. Don haka, ka sani, za a sami babban nau'in haɗin kai game da kyawawan buƙatun halittu na garuruwa. [00:08:00] da wannan ra'ayin kawo wadannan, wadannan 'yan qasar itatuwa da shrub a cikin.

Zuwa wuraren da yawancin mutane ke zama. Ka sani, a fili waɗannan ba za su taɓa kasancewa ba, um, isa su sami rufin dazuzzukanmu har zuwa 18%, wanda shine, burin ƙasa a halin yanzu har zuwa 18% zuwa 2050. Muna kusan kusan 11% zuwa yanzu. Don haka wannan yana nufin dasa kadada 8,000 na itatuwan bishiya kowace shekara, ka sani, a yankunan karkarar Ireland.

Uh, yanzu ba mu kusa haduwa da hakan ba. Dajin Target da Aljihu babu shakka kanana ne, kanana, um. Ayyuka. Amma abin da suke yi shi ne, um, komawa ga waccan kalmar, hankali, suna kawo waɗannan tsire-tsire a cikin idon mutane, inda suke zaune, inda suke ciyar da lokacinsu, ka san, inda za su iya ganin su kowace rana kuma su ga canje-canjen da suke fuskanta, ta yanayi.

Domin da yawa daga cikin abin da, ka sani, aikin sake dazuzzuka za a yi, za a yi a lungu da sako a kan masu zaman kansu ƙasar inda mutane ba za su iya gaske shiga da shi. Don haka [00:09:00] akan kawo ne. Daga cikin aikin sake dazuzzuka da muke yi a fadin kasar nan, muna fatan zuwa wuraren da mutane ke shafe mafi yawan lokutansu, wato garuruwa da birane.

Sarah Austin: Kowane dazuzzuka na aljihu yana da ɗan ƙaramin tasiri, amma kuma ta hanyar lura da shi, yana sa wasu matasa waɗanda za su fi sha'awar ɗaukar matakan yanayi a nan gaba, za su iya ci gaba. Don ƙarin shiga cikin ayyukan muhalli kuma wataƙila zai dasa bishiyoyi da yawa, da fatan, kuma zai iya haifar da babban aiki.

Catherine Cleary: Tabbas. Ina tsammanin akwai ingantaccen bincike da ke nuna cewa lokacin da mutane suka fara kula da yanayin yanayi, kun san su, duk tunanin muhallinsu yana canzawa. Ka sani, kula da, um, kiyaye duniyar ta zama wurin zama da kuma ɗaukar ayyuka masu kyau ga muhalli da yin shi kamar yadda, a matsayin al'umma yana kawo duk wannan makamashi mai kyau.

Ka sani, ba kai kaɗai ba ne wanda ke rungumar bishiyar kuma ka sani, kai ne. [00:10:00] a zahiri a cikin kabilar mutanen da suka damu da wannan kuma wanene, um. Tare ko kawo makamashin da ake buƙata zuwa gare shi. Eh, ka sani, domin a lokuta daban-daban mutane na iya zama masu shagaltuwa ko kuma ba za su iya shiga ba.

Ee, farin cikin yin hakan yana nuna wa mutane ainihin ingantaccen aiki mai inganci. Kankare mai yiwuwa kalmar da ba daidai ba ce, amma kun san, a kan matakin ƙasa, um, cewa za su iya ɗauka. A cikin lambun nasu. Kuma ka sani, idan suna da ƙaramin lambun da za su iya yi, za su iya yin hakan a wani lokaci ko a cikin al'ummarsu.

Sannan wannan yana ciyarwa cikin ra'ayoyi game da yadda za mu iya tallafawa manyan kayan hoto tare da manoma da masu mallakar filaye.

Sarah Austin: Wannan yana tunatar da ni cewa ka ɗauki wannan mataki na gaba da kanka. Eh, dasa gandun daji na asali. Za ku iya gaya mana kadan game da wannan dajin da kuka shuka a County Roscommon?

Catherine Cleary: Yeah.

Ni da mijina Liam sun sayi wani fili a ciki, a Roscommon. Um, shi ne. Ƙasa mafi arha da za mu iya samu a lokacin. Kuma, uh, a cikin filaye daban-daban guda uku. Ba duka ɗaya ba ne [00:11:00] yanki. Yana da, ya bambanta da kusan mil ɗaya da rabi tsakanin duk wuraren ukun. Eh, kuma yanki ne na noma. An yi kiwo, um, daga mai asali sannan kuma manoma makwabta waɗanda suke hayar filin.

Sosai, muna gaggawa, da wahalar noma. Eh, ka sani, da, irin ƙananan kudin shiga. Matsakaicin kuɗin shiga da kuke gani a cikin manoma a Roscommon yana nuna irin wahalar wannan ƙasa. Don haka ya yi kyau sosai, mun ji don, um, kafa ƙasar itace ta asali. Don haka mu, mun yi aiki tare da Forester, Bernard Kiernan a yankin, kuma ya sami lasisin fita, uh, daga sashen bayan wani lokaci.

Ina jin an kwashe kusan shekara guda kafin faruwar hakan. Don haka ya kasance a hankali, amma yanzu an dasa shi tsawon shekaru biyu kuma, um. Mun dasa bishiyoyi 20, kusan 26,000 a cikin ƙasa tare da, idan na ce mu, ƙungiyar ƙwararrun ƙwararrun ƙwararrun ƙwararrun masu shuka ce waɗanda suka zo. [00:12:00] dasa 18.

Don haka a halin yanzu muna kula da su lokacin girma na ƙarshe, kawai nau'in tattake ciyawar da garzaya da su don ƙoƙarin samun ƙarin haske a gare su. Kuma yanzu wannan kakar, yawancin su suna saman wannan ciyawa da layin gaggawa. Don haka a gaskiya sun yi adalci, yanzu suna tashi ne kawai sai ya zama, maimakon filin garzaya, idan ka duba sai ka ga filin bishiya ne ko kuma filayen bishiyu da dama.

Um, don haka yana da ban sha'awa sosai da namun daji a can. Abin ban mamaki. Mun jima muna kallon yadda gashi ke yawo a ciki, ciki, kewaye, kewayen ciyayi da rugujewar rayuwa da rayuwar tsuntsaye tana da ban mamaki a wannan lokaci na shekara. Kawai, akwai kawai da yawa a wurin.

Sarah Austin: Ya yi kama da 'yar mafaka.

Catherine Cleary: Da gaske yake. Ee, da gaske ne.

Sarah Austin: Kuma menene, wane irin aiki dole ne ku yi, don kula da wannan, don irin ƙarfafawa, bishiyoyi don girma?

Catherine Cleary: A halin yanzu, uh, kawai muna buƙatar tabbatar da cewa wannan, ƙananan bishiyoyi suna samun ɗan ƙaramin haske. Don haka kuma, ɗan tattake. Uh, wasu, wasu, uh, [00:13:00] Masu shi za su feshe, uh, gasa ciyayi, amma ba za mu yi hakan ba saboda a fili ba ma son gubar ƙasa. Kuma akwai shaidar cewa idan kun yi haka, kuna samun ƙarin lalacewar kurege a kan bishiyoyinku saboda akwai yanki na bear a kusa da bishiyoyi.

Kuma a zahiri ciyawar ba ta yin takara da bishiyoyi ba, haka ne. Bayar da wani ɗan ƙaramin, na, um, tsari da kariya gare shi. M-hmm. Don haka a halin yanzu, da gaske ne kawai don, don tabbatar da cewa, um, akwai, babu wani nau'in ɓarna da ke shigowa. Uh, don haka an yi sa'a ba mu da, muna da shuka rhododendron guda ɗaya, wanda aka magance nan da nan.

Eh, muna bukatar mu sanya ido a kan hakan. Muna buƙatar kiyaye ƙafafunmu a ƙasa da gaske, kuma, kuma mu kalli abin da ke faruwa. A tabbatar babu wata barewa da ta shigo ta yi mummunar barna, um, domin ba mu da katangar dawa. Amma eh, nan da shekaru biyu ko uku masu zuwa. Irin wannan kulawa ne, kiyaye nau'ikan masu cin zarafi, barewa da rhododendron da farko daga cikin daji.

Kuma a cikin kusan shekara biyar ko shida, za mu iya fara yin wasu hanyoyi ta bishiyu, watakila mu fitar da wasu bishiyoyi zuwa, zuwa. [00:14:00] samar da gefuna da sharewa da abubuwa kamar haka domin za su iya kawai, sake, inganta biodiversity na, ka sani, daya irin rufaffiyar alfarwa. Daji yana da girma, amma. Ƙarin gefuna da ƙarin giɓi da ƙarin wuraren rigar da kowane nau'i na wuraren zama daban-daban da kuke da shi a cikin wannan, mafi kyau.

Sannan muna da kadada kusan 13 da ba a shuka ba. Don haka kuma, kawai muna buƙatar tabbatar da cewa duk wani namun daji da ke wurin, ƙwanƙolin ƙasa, tsuntsaye ko masu wayo, kun sani, an kiyaye su, kuma suna iya jin daɗin wurin zama. Don haka akwai wani nau'i na barin shi kadai, amma kawai kuma a sa ido a kan mataki, ina tsammanin.

Sarah Austin: Don haka kwanan nan kun sami wasu hotunan bidiyo, ungozoma, duk game da wannan aikin gandun daji. To, menene wannan shirin ya bincika kuma menene manufar?

Catherine Cleary: ’Yar fim mai suna Beta Begar ce ta shirya fim ɗin, kuma ita, um, ta nemi Ma’aikatar Aikin Gona ta Ƙarƙashin tallan su na gandun daji, um, shirye-shiryen bayar da kuɗi don fim, bidiyo, ko don fim.[00:15:00]

Kuma ya kasance mai ban sha'awa sosai, irin, Ina tsammanin ƙididdigewa ko rubuta abubuwan da muke ƙoƙarin yi. Don haka ta yi fim tare da mu a shekarar da ta gabata a watan Fabrairu, lokacin da muka sami taron abokai da makwabta daga kewayen yankin sun zo tare da taimaka da dashen bishiyu. Kuma ta yi hira da manoman yankin da suka yi matukar sha'awa game da.

Abin da ake ji game da gandun daji da ke shigowa cikin ƙasa da kuma irin hasarar da ke tattare da noma da, da kuma irin baƙin cikin da ke tattare da haka, cewa, ka sani, lokacin da ka sanya ƙasarka, idan kai manomi ne, idan ka sanya gonarka a cikin bishiyoyi, yana nufin ƙarshen lokacin noma. Um Kuma cewa mutane suna bacewa daga ƙasar idan bishiyoyi suka shigo cikin ƙasa.

Don haka, ka sani, yana da kyau a shigar da waɗannan muryoyin a cikin fim ɗin tare da muryata, ka sani, kamar yadda Sean, ɗaya daga cikin maƙwabtanmu ke magana da ni wata 'yar birni mai zuwa don yin wannan. M-hmm. Um, saboda abu na ƙarshe da muke so shine wannan ya zama wani abu wanda. An taƙaice, ka sani, [00:16:00] masu kula da muhalli, duk wanda ya mallaki fili, idan zai iya, ka sani, da za su iya dasa kadada daya daga cikin itatuwa, kasa mai dacewa.

Yanzu, ba lallai ba ne. Ka sani, ƙasar bogi da, da kuma yankuna irin wannan. Tsirrai masu dausayi, galibi suna yin aiki mafi kyau ga yanayi da halittu fiye da yadda za su yi idan an dasa su da bishiyoyi. Don haka, ka sani, dole ne ku san abin da kuke shukawa a ciki. Amma akwai hanyoyi da yawa, da yawa don masu mallakar filaye don sanyawa da manoma don dasa bishiyoyi a cikin ƙasa.

Don haka shirin ya kasance game da, um, binciken mu, tunanin mu. Haɗe-haɗe zuwa ƙasa da yadda muke ji game da bishiyoyi da Beta yana da, abin da ya yi kama da ni kamar ɗan ƙaramin tunani a farkon, amma yana aiki da kyau na ba da murya ga ɗayan bishiyoyin da ke cikin shinge a gonar, wanda shine, tsohuwar bishiyar toka.

Um, don haka ta umurci Kerry Ní Dochartaigh, wanda mawaƙi ne mai ban mamaki. Waka a cikin muryar wannan bishiyar, wacce ake kira Itace Uwar, wacce aka zare a cikin shirin kuma an ba da ita. [00:17:00] ta fitacciyar jarumar wasan kwaikwayo Mary McAvoy, wacce ta dasa dazuzzuka a cikin gonar danginta. Eh, don haka an ƙara masa wani nau'in sihiri.

ina ji Eh, a kowane nunin na kan burge ni da yadda masu sauraro suke kulawa. Eh, ka sani, mutane sun ji daɗin wannan labarin kuma, um. Ni, ina mamakin yadda mutane ke sha'awar shi da abin da ke faruwa kuma, kuma ka sani, labari ne mai tasowa saboda kawai mun kama shi, ina tsammanin watanni shida ko takwas da yin fim.

Don haka mun samu daga, ka sani, lokacin dasa shuki na hunturu zuwa lokacin bazara. Lokacin da komai ya yi kore kuma, kuma ba zato ba tsammani duk ya yi kyau da kyau, ba mu ma kama lokacin hunturu ba, ka sani, inda yake ƙanƙara da sanyi. Don haka da fatan za a sami wani nau'i, um, tsayin juzu'i, ko, kuma na san Beta yana fatan yin aiki tare, uh, manoma da masu gandun daji don yin fim mai tsawo game da aikin su, um, saboda yawancin mutane suna iya ganin wannan, um, ba fiye da Sean ba. [00:18:00] Ronayne ban mamaki shirin gaskiya, um, tare da Kathleen Harris.

Ana kiransa Birdsong inda, kun sani, yana yin rikodin duk waƙoƙin tsuntsaye a cikin ƙasar. Ina tsammanin wannan labarin na mutum ko mutane ko al'umma na mutane da yanayi da kuma yadda suke aiki don gwadawa da taimakawa yanayi saboda, ka sani, shine mafi karfi. Um, shine, ƙarfin shine zai yi yawancin aikin.

Ka sani, kai, ka ɗauki mataki ɗaya mai kyau kuma yanayi yana ɗaukar 10. Don haka, ka sani, irin waɗannan labarun ina tsammanin suna da yawa, um. Mai ban sha'awa, da fatan mutane, amma kuma mai ta'aziyya don sanin cewa akwai mutane a can suna yin wannan aikin. Um, saboda yawancin lokuta ba ma jin labarinsa.

Sarah Austin: Lallai. Kuna iya jin cewa kai kaɗai ne cikin ayyukanka wani lokaci, kuma yana da kyau a san akwai al'umma a can.

Catherine Cleary: Shakka.

Sarah Austin: Kuma kun sami wani ra'ayi daga manoma da masu mallakar filaye, alal misali, kan shirin ko ma kawai fuska da fuska kan aikin?

Catherine Cleary: Ee, ina nufin,

da, namu, muna da manomi a cikin masu sauraro a Galway, um, ranar Talata lokacin da muke [00:19:00] An yi gwajin gwaji a Jami'ar Galway inda muke da, kyakkyawan aikin matukin jirgi, wanda Gidauniyar Lives to Good Foundation ta dauki nauyinta.

Eh, mun sami buɗe alamar mu a can, sannan muka yi wani, nunin faifan bidiyo kuma muna da manomi a cikin masu sauraro wanda yake manomi ne. Kuma yana tambayar mutane su duba da gaske, kun san me kuka ci yau? Shin kun ci abinci na halitta daga gonar Irish? Ka sani, shin kuna shirye ku biya, farashin wannan ga manomi da kuma rawar da mu masu amfani da su ke takawa, game da yadda ake amfani da ƙasarmu da abin da ake amfani da shi.

Um, muna da memba, Dokta Karen Morrisey, wanda masanin tattalin arziki ne, amma ta girma a gona kuma. Ta samu, don haka tana da cikakkiyar fahimtar wannan al'ada da yadda take aiki. Um, amma kuma tana da cikakkiyar fahimta game da buƙatar rage naman sa da kiwo a Ireland da yin ƙari mai yawa. dorewar noma, ko dai, ka sani, shuka kayan lambu da amfanin gona da za mu buƙaci idan mun, ka sani. [00:20:00] ko ta yaya ba za a iya shigo da su daga kasashen waje ba saboda yawancin amfanin gonakin daga kasashen waje suke zuwa yanzu.

Um, da kuma, tasirin muhalli na yawan kiwo. Don haka wannan manomi ya kasance mai hazaka game da, ka sani, noma mai kyau da kuma nau'in, idan kana samun naman ka daga manomin ɗan ƙasar Ireland mai ɗa'a, mai sabuntawa ko na halitta, to, yana da kyau sosai don samun damar ci. Ba za ku sami damar cin abincin kowace rana ba saboda zai fi tsada sosai, kuma hakan yana iya zama abu mai kyau ga lafiyar ku da lafiyar duniyar ku.

Don haka, eh, tattaunawa mai ban sha'awa kuma a zahiri nuna ɗaya daga cikin manoma wanda ke. Ya bayyana sosai a cikin fim ɗin game da wannan baƙin ciki da baƙin ciki da ke faruwa lokacin da, lokacin da ake dasa gonaki, um, har cikin bishiyoyi, yanzu yana neman shuka wasu ƙasarsa tare da gandun daji na asali, Ina tsammanin sake yin wahayi ta hanyar gani da kasancewa cikin abubuwan da muka yi.

Eh, don haka za ku iya ganin yadda waɗannan maganganun, idan suka faru fuska da fuska, sun fi yawa. Bude ga kowa [00:21:00] matsayi. Ka sani, babu wani abin da ya fi muni da ya wuce yin taho-mu-gama da Farmer a kan layi. Na kasance ina yi. Ba zan ƙara yin hakan ba saboda wuri ne mai guba da gaske, um, inda wani abu da za a iya yarda fuska da fuska zai zama babban layi.

Um Kuma kiran suna da ra'ayin cewa muna cikin wani nau'in yaki yana da hauka saboda duk muna cikin wannan, duk muna cikin jirgi ɗaya a nan. M-hmm. Kuma, ka sani, duk mun dogara ga ƙasarmu. Dukanmu mun dogara da, ruwa mai tsafta, akan, akan iska mai tsafta. Um, kuma akwai abubuwa da yawa masu inganci da za a iya yi a cikin wannan kyakkyawar ƙasa da muka yi sa'ar zama a ciki, don samar da lafiya ga kowa.

Don haka dole ne mu yi magana a kan manyan muryoyin masana'antu, waɗanda suke. Mai albarka sosai. Eh, kun sani, suna da duk kuɗin kuma suna iya biyan duk masu ba da labari. Uhmm, mu dai kawai mu ba da labarai masu kyau da labarai masu inganci, um, domin yawancin abin da ake gaya mana game da yanayin tsarin noma ba gaskiya ba ne.

Sarah Austin: [00:22:00] Yana da matukar muhimmanci a samu wadannan budaddiyar tattaunawa inda muke da muryar kowa musamman ta, na manoman da ke kula da kasa mai yawa a fadin kasar nan, um, da samar da fili inda masu sha’awar daukar mataki kan yanayi, domin yanayin yana da wani wuri da za a ji muryarsu ko kuma inda ko da sun yi, ba su san ta ina za su fara ba, inda za su iya.

Yi wannan tattaunawar kuma ku gano wasu ƙananan matakai da za mu iya ɗauka tare da nuna wa wasu cewa ba lallai ba ne ku, kamar yadda kuka ambata a baya yanzu, kuna rungumar itace idan kuna son ɗaukar ɗan ƙaramin mataki.

Catherine Cleary: Ee. Yana da yawa game da ma'anar ku kuma na ga Jackie kawai an saka shi a, um, hanyar haɗi zuwa magana bishiyoyi a, uh, a Amsterdam.

Dole ne in duba hakan. Na gode Jackie. Eh, eh, ita ce asalin, um. Ka san akwai alfahari sosai a tsakanin matasa manoma, kuma na ji ana magana a kai, ta hanyoyi daban-daban, ka san yadda suke cin nasara, girman garken su, yadda suke aiki iri daya, ka san cewa duk muna cikin irin wannan hali. [00:23:00] na sha'awar shagaltuwa da mahimmanci kuma, da ci gaba da girma da girma da girma.

Kuma idan za ku iya canza wannan zuwa babban girman kai a cikin wannan shine adadin nau'in tsuntsayen da nake da su a gonata. Waɗannan su ne adadin bishiyoyin ƙasa waɗanda suke girma Ku. Dole ne ya zo da girman kai. Kuma wannan girman kai dole ne a daidaita shi saboda kuɗin yana nan. Ka sani, yana da fa'ida a shuka ciyawar daji a yanzu a cikin gonaki da yawa da aiki ƙasa da yin, ƙoƙarin noman naman sa.

Eh, amma duk da haka ba ku da manoma suna yin shi. Eh, don haka akwai wani abu kuma a can da ke buƙatar motsawa. Um Shi ne abin da ya kamata a kula da shi? Ka sani, kuma a halin yanzu, babbar shawara ita ce, dole ne ku ƙara yawan adadin kuzari da kuke samarwa a gonar ku saboda wannan shine, kun sani, wannan shine, shine abin nasara.

Ka sani, yana komawa zuwa 2015 lokacin da, lokacin da, um. [00:24:00] An cire adadin madara kuma manoma sun sami kwarin gwiwa sosai daga bankuna, da 'yan siyasa, kowa ya ba su kwarin gwiwa su yi noma. Fiye da dabbobi fiye da yadda suke da ƙasa ko albarkatun da za su yi. Eh, kuma sun samu kansu cikin manyan basussuka. Suna da rayuwar aiki mai ban sha'awa a yanzu.

Uh, kuma garkennan suna ta fitar da madara. Amma ka sani, mun ga tasirin ingancin ruwa. Mun ga tasirin akan Lafiyar tunani haka nan. Ina tsammanin akwai wata babbar tattaunawa a wurin da manoma za su yi game da lafiyar kwakwalwarsu da kuma irin alfanun da za su iya samu ta yadda a zahiri za su koma baya daga noman kayayyaki, da noma sosai, da kuma duba irin abubuwan da al’ummominsu na baya suka yi.

Kuma kamar yadda na ce, yin alfahari da wani abu banda girman garke.

Sarah Austin: Na gode sosai, Catherine. Wato, ina tsammanin kuna yin ayyuka da yawa, ba kawai ta fuskar aiki ba, amma ta fuskar ilimi har ma da abin da za mu iya yi, ƙananan matakai da za mu iya ɗauka, da kuma babban matakin tsarin. [00:25:00] canje-canje kuma.

Catherine Cleary: Ee, kuma muna fatan za mu iya raba, ka sani, abin da muka koya game da yin gandun daji na aljihu. A cikin shekaru biyar da suka gabata, kun sani, sanya ƙarin nau'ikan albarkatu a kan gidan yanar gizon mu a cikin wannan shekara inda mutane za su iya yin wannan da kansu kuma za mu, ku sani, za mu ba su dukkan matakan, um, saboda mun fahimci cewa akwai da yawa da za mu iya yi kuma mun kusan cika cikar wannan shekara.

Um Don haka, ka sani, hanyar da za a auna shi daga nan gaba ita ce, don ba wa mutane ƙwarewa da kayan aiki, tabbatar da cewa za su iya samun damar yin amfani da kyawawan bishiyoyi na Irish masu girma da kuma daidaitattun haɗuwa don yankin su. Kuma, sa'an nan kuma da fatan za mu iya samun ainihin abin da ke faruwa a wurare da yawa, da yawa.

Sarah Austin: M. Kuma a ina mutane za su iya samun ƙarin sani kuma su tuntuɓar ku a cikin dazuzzuka na aljihu?

Catherine Cleary: Don haka gandun daji na aljihu, duk kalma ɗaya ce, watau. Um, kuma akwai bayani a wurin imel ɗin da za ku iya tuntuɓar mu ko, um, eh, ta hanyar, ta hanyar gidan yanar gizon tabbas shine mafi kyau. Idan kuna cikin Galway da Jami'ar Galway, akwai, zaku iya duba aikin gwajin mu a can. Yana bayan ginin ILAS akan [00:26:00] arewa harabar kuma akwai kyakkyawar lambar QR a can inda zamu so ku yi bincike kuma ku sanar da mu.

Me kuke tunani game da shi. Yadda kuke ji game da sararin samaniya, saboda wani ɓangare na, Ina tsammanin wani ɓangare na abin da muke so mu yi shine samun ƙarin bincike. Bayani daga mutane game da abin da suke, abin da suke ji game da sararin samaniya. Mun san abin da muke ji game da shi da kuma wadatar da za mu iya. Muna jin zai, ka sani, wadatar da za ta ƙara wa yankunan birane, amma, um, muna son raddi daga mutanen da suka ziyarci waɗannan wuraren game da abin da suke tunani game da su.

Hakanan za su iya ziyartar cibiyar dijital a titin Thomas. Bayan kwantena kofi, muna da ɗan daji a cikin Skip da. Zauna ku sha kofi a can kuma ku yi ɗan wanka na daji a cikin wani yanki na birni sosai. Eh, kuma muna yin wasu bita a wata mai zuwa a Cibiyar Dijital. Za su kasance kyauta ga mutane, amma za su buƙaci yin ajiyar su akan layi.

Kuma muna iya neman taimako kaɗan don kawai lokacin da mutane suka yi littafin bita kyauta, wani lokacin ba sa zuwa. Eh, don haka, uh, eh, don haka za su fara a watan Yuni. Za a yi taron karawa juna sani a kowace Laraba, [00:27:00] lokacin abincin rana a watan Yuni, uh, a cikin cibiyar dijital. Don haka muna son mutane su zo tare da wannan.

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Sarah Austin: Wannan yana da haske. Na gode sosai, Catherine. Naji dadin hirarmu a yau.

Catherine Cleary: Jin dadina. Na gode Sarah.

Jackie De Burca: Na gode sosai, Catherine da Sarah. Wannan hira ce ta yi matukar kyau kuma akwai wasu abubuwa da suka taso yayin tattaunawar ku da za mu hada a shafin shirin.

Wannan ya dace da, misali, uh, Dr. Nadina Galle, Wanene wanda ya fara gaya mana game da bishiyoyi masu magana a Amsterdam. Cikakken ban sha'awa kuma, kuma yana da alaƙa da aikin Catherine da abin da ya fito yayin wannan hirar. Don haka za mu yi, ka sani. Sanya wannan a cikin shafin labarin, don haka zaku iya bincika hakan kuma, saboda yana da alaƙa sosai.

Mun yi jerin shirye-shirye tare da Dr. Nadina Holla a cikin 2024. Karamin jerin abubuwa ne kuma tana da ban sha'awa sosai. [00:28:00] Har ila yau, baya ga wannan, akwai wani labarin da zan ambata wanda ke da alaƙa da yadda lafiya da yanayi suke. Suna haɗuwa kuma wannan yana tare da Jane Finley. Duk waɗannan za su kasance a kan shafin yanar gizon don ku iya zurfafa zurfin cikin waɗannan batutuwa.

Kuma tabbatar da duba mahimman bayanai akan shafin labarin da zaku iya samu akan aikace-aikacen podcast ɗinku ko kuma akan gidan yanar gizon mu. Mai ginawa. Voices.com kuma akwai bayanan da ke wurin da suka shafi abin da Catherine ta ambata game da tarurrukan da ake nufi su kasance a wata mai zuwa, amma saboda muna yin rikodin a bayyane a gaba, a gaskiya wannan watan a cikin Yuni kuma za su kasance da gaske, da ban sha'awa sosai.

Don haka kar a rasa. Tabbatar duba duk bayanan Catherine kuma duba gidan yanar gizonta kuma kuyi la'akari da zuwa taron bita. Na gode sosai don sauraro.

Wannan muryoyi masu ma'ana.

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