S3, E6: Mufananidzo Kunyika-Nzvimbo Yenzvimbo Yekumisikidza Remangwana Redu, Alexandra Akamhanya paBhuku Rake Rinoputsa, Chikamu 1.

S3, E6: Mufananidzo Kunyika-Nzvimbo Yenzvimbo Yekumisikidza Remangwana Redu, Alexandra Akamhanya paBhuku Rake Rinoputsa, Chikamu 1.

Mufananidzo Kunzvimbo Yenzvimbo-Chimiro Chenzvimbo Yekugadzirisa Remangwana Redu, Alexandra Steed
 

Alexandra Steed Podcast

Munyori wepasi-pasi, Alexandra Steed, anotaura naJackie De Burca munhevedzano yezvina podcast episodhi inoongorora zvakadzama mubhuku rake rakajeka. Akaitawo akabvuma kupa makopi gumi ebhuku rake. Iva nechokwadi chekupinda pamusoro.

Teerera kune Chikamu 1 pazasi. Chinyorwa chiri mberi pazasi.

Chikamu chekutanga chinopa nzwisiso huru mune pfungwa dzauchawana mubhuku rino. The munyori inotsanangura mamwe emisimboti akakosha anoratidzwa. De Burca anotaura naye zvakadzama nezve Chikamu 1 che Portrait to Landscape-A Landscape Strategy yekumisikidza Remangwana Redu

Pane hupfumi hwekudzidza nekukurukura pamusoro pebhuku rino rekutanga. Saka zvese Podcast chikamu chinoongorora chimwe chezvikamu zvina zvebhuku rino rinotevera.

Chikamu 2 chinogona kuwanikwa pano.

Joanne Proft, Associate Director, Community Planning | Campus + Community Planning paYunivhesiti yeBritish Columbia akati:

"Alexandra Steed anopa nharo inogombedzera, yakanyatsoongorora uye ine shungu yekuchengetedza ramangwana rehupenyu pasi pano - nekuita shanduko yakakosha muhukama hwedu muzvarirwo, kubva pakuona selfie-yakatarisana nemufananidzo kusvika kune inosanganisa-yese mamiriro enzvimbo. "

 

About Portrait to Landscape: Iyo Landscape Strategy yekumisikidza Remangwana Redu:

Mufananidzo kune Landscape: A Landscape Strategy Kugadzirisa Remangwana Redu ibasa rekutanga rakanyoreswa nemugadziri ane mukurumbira wemamiriro ekunze. Zvinotidenha kuti tichinje hukama hwedu nenyika, tichipa nzira yakakwana yekurapa pasi nekugadzirisa zvese zviratidzo uye zvikonzero zvinokonzeresa. kusvibiswa kwezvakatipoteredza.

Richishandisa dimikira remufananidzo wakamanikana, wakazvinangisa wega maringe nekuona kwenzvimbo yakakura, bhuku rinojekesa zvakadzama. kuchinja yemaonero edu akaganhurirwa. Inopa nzira dzinoshanda dzevagadziri vemitemo, vatsigiri, uye vanhu kuti vadzivirire uye vadzorere nzvimbo, ichisimbisa kubatana uye hutungamiriri hwenguva refu.

Iri bhuku rinonyandura pfungwa rinokurudzira vaverengi kuti vaongorore zvakare kubatana kwavo nezvisikwa uye kuita musangano uchienda kune zvimwe. remangwana rakasimba, zvichiita kuti ive yekuverenga kune chero munhu ari kutsvaga kunzwisisa kwakadzama kwenzvimbo yedu munyika uye kuti tingagara sei mairi nekuvimbika.

Dzvanya kusvika tenga bhuku paAmazon.

Alexandra Steed Inovaka Manzwi

Nezve Alexandra Steed

Alexandra Steed, anofarira landscape architect uye Shamwari ye Landscape Institute (FLI) uye Royal Society yeUnyanzvi (FRSA), ine kuzvipira kwakadzama kune art, kuchengetedza, uye simba rekushandura renzvimbo.

Muna 2013, iye akatanga London-based studio URBAN nechinangwa chekuunza mufaro kuhupenyu hwevanhu zuva nezuva kuburikidza nemamiriro patani izvo zvinowedzera runako uye zvinosimudzira hupenyu hwakanaka. Steed anoshingairira kupa zano uye anoshanda nyanzvi mapaneru emasangano akadai se Design Council UK uye Hofisi yeHurumende yeUK yeNzvimbo.

Semudzidzisi pa Iyo Bartlett, UCL, anogovera ruzivo rwake uye anozvipira nguva yake kutsigira zviratidzo zvekuvaka nzvimbo munharaunda. Steed's yakasarudzika mipiro kune landscape akitekicha vakawana mibairo ine mukurumbira, kusanganisira iyo WAFX Mubayiro yezvigadziriso zvepasi rose zvigadziriso uye LI Mubairo Wekunaka muKubata Kuchinja Kwemamiriro ekunze.

Uyezve, aive yakasarudzwa yeSir David Attenborough Award, kuratidza kuzvipira kwake kuchengetedza nekusimudzira biodiversity uye ecosystems. Iye ndiye munyori webhuku rinoputsa-pasi "Portrait to Landscape: A Landscape Strategy yekumisikidza Remangwana Redu."

Ratidza Zvinyorwa 3, Chikamu chechitanhatu

ziviso

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  • Nhanganyaya: Jackie De Burca inogamuchira Alexandra Steed, munyori uye ane shungu dzekuvaka nzvimbo.
  • Muenzi Nhanganyaya: Alexandra anozivikanwa nekuda kwebhuku rake, iro rinopa ruzivo rwakadzama mukuvakwa kwenzvimbo uye kugona kwayo kushandura.
  • Wongororo Chidimbu: Bhuku rinoshandura maonero edu kubva pakuona selfie-yakatarisana kuenda kune yakazara mamiriro ekutarisa.

Personal uye Professional Background

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  • Maonero Pamunhu:
    • Kuda kwaAlexandra kune zvakasikwa uye hunyanzvi.
    • Amai vevanakomana vaviri.
  • Professional Journey:
    • Anopfuura makore 25 mune landscape architecture.
    • Dzidzo: Yunivhesiti yeBritish Columbia mune art uye landscape architecture.
    • Zvakanakisa Zvebasa:

Kukurukurirana Kwebhuku

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  • Kukurudzira Kunyora:
    • Akakwanisa kunyora bhuku nekuda kwechikwata chinomutsigira pakudzidzira kwake.
    • Ndakanzwa kukurumidza kugadzirisa pfungwa dzakakosha pamusoro pezvisikwa uye nzvimbo.
  • Musoro Webhuku: "Mufananidzo kune Landscape: Iyo Landscape Strate yekumisikidza Remangwana Redu"
    • Pfungwa: Chinja kubva pakuona wega "mufananidzo" uchienda kune yakafara, inosanganisirwa maonero e "landscape".
    • Content Overview:
      • Vision yehukama hutsva nemasikirwo.
      • Kuongorora kwezvino matambudziko ezvakatipoteredza.
      • Dhizaini misimboti uye zviito zvakakosha kune regenerative ramangwana.
  • Vatereri vakanangwa:
    • Beyond landscape architects.
    • Veruzhinji kuti vanzwisise kukosha of landscapes.

Current Environmental Context

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  • Biodiversity Net Gain:
    • Mitemo mitsva mukati England zvinoreva danho rekubvuma kukosha kwenzvimbo mubudiriro.
  • Hukama hwevanhu nehunhu:
    • Maonero eWestern dualistic: Vanhu vs. Nature.
    • Kuda kuziva kubatana uye kuenda kune hukama hwekudyidzana nemasikirwo.

Zano Rinoshanda reKubatana Nezvakasikwa

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  • Mazano:
    • Batanidza zvisikwa mumaitiro ezuva nezuva, kunyangwe mumadhorobha.
    • Sarudza nzira dzakasvibirira dzekufamba, iva nezvirimwa munzvimbo dzekugara, uye uite zvekurima.
    • Shanduko diki dzinogona kutungamirira kukubatana kwakadzikama nemasikirwo nekufamba kwenguva.

Conceptual Insights

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  • Human Visual System Analogy:
    • Maonero edu anokonzerwa nezvose zvatinoona uye magadzirirwo edu epfungwa.
    • Zvivako zvakapfava zvinowanzo tungamira kune maonero maviri, izvo zvinoda kutsiviwa nekunzwisisa kwakaoma kwekubatana.
  • Kuwedzera Denderedzwa retsitsi:
    • Kufemerwa nekotesheni yaEinstein, ichisimbisa kukosha kwekumbundira nekurera hukama hwedu nemasikirwo.

mhedziso

  • Kuvhara Mifungo:
    • Danai ku chiito: Simbisa kukurumidza uye kukosha kwekushandura maonero edu kune zvakasikwa kuitira ramangwana rakagadzikana uye rakabatana.
  • Hurukuro Dzamangwana: Kugona kwekudzokorora nyaya idzi muzvikamu zvenguva yemberi kuti uone mafambiro uye shanduko mumaonero ezvakatipoteredza nemitemo.

Chinyorwa Mwaka 3, Chikamu chechitanhatu

Ichi chinyorwa chakagadzirwa pachishandiswa AI.

[00:00:00] Mutauri A: Manzwi Anovaka, iyo podcast ye kuvaka vanhu vane nhau, maonero uye kubvunzurudzwa kwenyanzvi.

Charlotte Dancer: Uyu ndiCharlotte Dancer wemanzwi anovaka. Chiitiko chanhasi chine Alexandra Stead, uyo akasarudzwa kuti awane Mubairo weSir David Attenborough, achisimbisa kuzvipira kwake kuchengetedza nekusimudzira zvisikwa zvakasiyana-siyana uye zvipenyu.

Iye ane mukurumbira, anohwina mibairo mizhinji yezvivakwa zvekugadzira uye munyori weiyo inodzika bhuku mufananidzo kune nzira yemamiriro ekugadzirisa remangwana redu.

[00:00:32] Maxwell Alves: Uyu ndiMaxwell Alves, ari panowo kuti akugamuchirei kune rekutanga remabhuku akatevedzana neConstructive Voices.

Joanne Proft, associate director, Campus yekuronga nharaunda pamwe nekuronga nharaunda paUniversity yeBritish Columbia, akadaro nezvebhuku iri, Alexandra.

[00:00:46] Charlotte Dancer: Stead inopa nharo inogombedzera, yakanyatso tsvagurudzwa, uye ine rudo rwekuchengetedza ramangwana rehupenyu pasi pano nekuita shanduko yakakosha muukama hwedu kune zvakasikwa kubva kune yakanangana neselfie yakatarisana nemifananidzo kuenda kune yakawanda inosanganisa nyika maonero.

[00:01:00] Maxwell Alves: Chikamu ichi ndicho chekutanga muzvikamu zvina zvakatevedzana zvinotarisa zvakadzama mugwaro remufananidzo webhuku rinouya kune nzira yemamiriro ekugadzirisa remangwana redu.

[00:01:08] Charlotte Dancer: Munyori akapa nerupo gumi mabhuku nokuda kwekupa kwedu. Iva nechokwadi chekutarisa ruzivo pane inovaka Voices webhusaiti inovaka dash voices.com uye pasocial media - inotungamirwa naJackie de Burca

[00:01:24] Jackie De Burca: Saka ndinofara chaizvo kuva naAlexandra Stead nesu nhasi. Ndiye munyori webhuku rinoshamisa randawana zvachose mitoro uye mirwi yemaparera ehuchenjeri mariri. Iye ane chido chekugadzira nzvimbo ane kuzvipira kwakadzama kune simba rekushandura renzvimbo. Iye zvino, ndiye munyori webhuku randambotaura. Ini handisi kuzokupa zita racho nekuti zita racho rakanyanya kukosha uye ndinoda kuti Alexandra ataure nezvazvo iye. Nekudaro, kutanga kweimwe yeongororo yandakawana inoti Alexandra Stead inopa inogombedzera, yakatsvakwa, uye ine shungu gakava rekuchengetedza ramangwana rehupenyu pasi pano nekuita shanduko yakakosha muhukama hwedu kune zvakasikwa kubva pamufananidzo wakatarisana ne selfie. maonero kune mamwe ese anosanganisira nyika maonero. Kutanga, Alexandra, ndinoda kutaura kuti maita basa zvikuru nokuva pano nhasi. Uye kana iwe uchida kungotsanangura kuti ndiwe ani iwe pachako uye nehunyanzvi.

[00:02:29] Alexandra Steed: Oo, waita, Jackie. Zvinofadza kutaura newe.

Zvakanaka, zvakanaka, saka pachedu uye nehunyanzvi. Ndiri munhu anoda zvechisikigo, ndinoda zvekudhirowa, uye ndiri amai vevanakomana vaviri vandinoda.

Uye ndinofunga kuti zvese zvakabatana kwandiri. Ndanga ndiri mugadziri wemamiriro ekunze ikozvino kweanenge makore makumi maviri nemashanu uye ndichiri neshungu nazvo izvozvi sezvandakamboita. Zvinonditendera kutora rudo rwangu rwehunyanzvi mune zvandinofunga kuti ndiyo yakanyanya kunaka svikiro. Uye izvo zviri kushanda nenyika pachayo uye kuveza nekubatana nenyika mhenyu kugadzira aya mapenyu emabasa ehunyanzvi ndiwo maonerwo andinoita. Saka ndizvo zvandiri kuda chaizvo.

[00:03:23] Jackie De Burca: Ndinofanira kungotaura nezvemifananidzo yenyu iri mubhuku. Vanoshamisa chose.

[00:03:28] Alexandra Steed: Oo, ndinokutendai zvikuru. Ini ndinovaona vachibatsira chaizvo kuronga kujekesa mazano, kunyangwe ini, asi kune vamwe, zvakare.

[00:03:37] Jackie De Burca: Chokwadi, chokwadi. Saka ngatitaure zvishoma nezve yako nyanzvi mamiriro. Iwe une yako tsika pamwe nekuve pachena kuve munyori, saka ngatingowana zvishoma zvishoma nezve iro divi rako.

[00:03:52] Alexandra Steed: Rudyi. Zvakanaka, sezvandakataura, ndanga ndiri mumunda wekuvakwa kwenzvimbo kweanenge makore makumi maviri nemashanu ikozvino. Ndakadzidza paUniversity of British Columbia muVancouver, kwandakanga ndatoita dhigirii remifananidzo. Ipapo ndakafunga kuti ndaida kutora hunyanzvi hwangu hwekuita nharaunda yeruzhinji uye mukati memamiriro ekunze kuti ndiite zvandinoona sezvinyanya kupindirana uye zvine ruzivo mabasa emifananidzo.

Uye saka ndave ndichiita izvozvo kwemakore makumi maviri nemashanu. Pakutanga, ndakashanda padhipatimendi reguta reVancouver Greenways, iro mazuva iwayo rakanga riri zano idzva rokuvaka bhiriji. ouinjiniya nekuronga, uyezve kuunza nzvimbo neArthem mune izvozvo, kugadzira nzira dzemabhasikoro nedzevanofamba netsoka mukati meguta rose. Saka kugadzira network yeizvi girinhi uye nzira dzakaisvonaka idzo vanhu vaigona kufamba nomuguta. Saka ndakaita izvozvo kwemakore mashomanana, uye ipapo ndakatamira kuLondon makore 20 apfuura, uye ndakashanda mumitambo yakasiyana-siyana ikoko. Ndakatanga kushanda muurban design practice. Ipapo ndakashanda nemumwe mugadziri wenzvimbo anoshamisa anonzi Martha Schwartz ndokuguma ave kumhanyisa studio yake muLondon.

Zvino zvichitevera izvozvo, ndakashanda neAecom, uye ndakamhanyisa situdiyo yekugadzira ipapo, uye ndakava nemukana wakakura ipapo wekushanda kunze kwenyika uye kuona kushanda pamwero mukuru kwazvo. Mapurojekiti atakaita aive makuru kwazvo. Uye saka ndakazounza zvese zverudzi irworwo rwechiitiko neni pandakatanga kudzidzira kwangu kunonzi Urban kumashure muna 2013. Uye ndakazviita nekuti ndaida kwazvo kugadzira nharaunda kuunza runako uye mufaro kuhupenyu hwemazuva ese hwevanhu.

Saka ndizvo zvandanga ndichishanda pazviri kubva ipapo.

[00:05:48] Jackie De Burca: Saka, hongu, inyaya inoshamisa sei. Uye chii chakakuunza iwe, kutanga, kunyora bhuku? Nekuti, hongu, iwe wakapenda hupenyu hwehunyanzvi hwakabatikana uye hune ruvara kusvika kusvika panguva ino.

[00:06:01] Alexandra Steed: Ehe. Zvakanaka, ndinofunga ndine rombo rakanaka kuti ndine chikwata chakanaka chandinoshanda neni kuUrban. Uye saka ndakanzwa kuti kambani yaive munzvimbo yaifamba zvakanaka. Ndakanga ndine vamwe vanhu vakanakisa vaitungamira mapurojekiti, uye ndakafunga, zvakanaka, uyu ndiwo mukana zvino wekuti ndikwanise kushanda pabhuku, randanga ndichida kuita kwemakore mashoma. Uye ndinofunga kuti ndanga ndichitotanga kunzwa kumanikidzwa kwenguva kundibata uye pfungwa dzandaifunga kuti dzinofanira kuparadzirwa munyika nekukurumidza uye nekukasira, nekuti bhuku iri kudana kuita chiito, chaizvo. Uye ndakafunga, ndikasazviita iko zvino, ndinenge ndapotsa mukana.

Saka ndakanzwa kukurumidza pane izvo, uye ndakafunga, zvakanaka, zvakanaka, ndichatora gore rino, iro, unoziva, raingova gore, kuti ndakashandisa simba rakawanda pabhuku pa panguva imwe chete kushanda mukuita, asi rakanga riri gore rakabatikana.

[00:07:02] Jackie De Burca: Ehe, ndinogona kukoshesa izvozvo. Zvino, ngatisvikei. Nekuti ndakadzima pfungwa yekuisa musoro pakutanga kwebhuku rako nemaune, nekuti musoro wacho wakanyanya kukosha. Musoro webhuku rako ndewei uye nezvei? Alexandra?

[00:07:17] Alexandra Steed: Rudyi. Zvakanaka, inodaidzwa kuti portrait to landscape, zano renyika rekugadzirisa ramangwana redu.

Uye saka mutsara wekuti portrait kune landscape wakave mutsara unonditsanangurira, uye zvakandibatsira kumisa zvese zviri mubhuku pamaonero iwayo. Saka chaizvo, mufananidzo kune nyika, kwandiri, zvinoreva zvinhu zviviri. Imwe shanduko yemaonero edu kubva pakuona zvinhu, rudzi rwe. Iwe unoziva, kana iwe uchinzwisisa kutaridzika kwemufananidzo, wakatwasuka uye wakanyatso kutarisisa pachedu uye wobva watsveta kuenda kune yekutarisa nyika iyo yakakura zvakanyanya. Uye iyo yakafara angle landscape lens kwaunosanganisira iyo inorarama nyika yakakupoteredza, yako mhepo mvura nenzvimbo, uye mamiriro ako ezvinhu. Saka ndiyo imwe nzira yandinofungidzira mutsara iwoyo. Asi zvakare, kwandiri, zvinoreva kubhururuka kubva pakungozvitarisa pachedu. Saka rudzi rwakanyanya rwemukati rwakatarisa, rwakanyanya udyire kutarisa kunze kunharaunda yakazara. Uye kwete chete nharaunda yevanhu vakatipoteredza, asi nharaunda yakazara yehupenyu iyo inowanzoregeredzwa nezvose zvehupfumi hwedu, zvimiro zvedu zvemari, masangano edu ezvematongerwo enyika. Iro nharaunda yakazara yehupenyu kazhinji inongofuratirwa uye inoonekwa sechinhu chinotitsigira pane kutitsigira nemari kana maererano nezvatinogona kutora uye kutora kubva mazviri, pane kufunga nezvekuti takabatana sei. Saka ndizvo chaizvo zvandaida kuburitsa mumutsara iwoyo, mufananidzo kune mamiriro, sekuchinja kwemaonero edu uye mumaonero edu enyika.

[00:09:16] Jackie De Burca: Zvakanaka, ikozvino, ndinofunga kuti zita racho sezviri pachena rakajeka, uye bhuku rakajeka. Asi kune avo vasina kuiverenga mune tsananguro inokurumidza, chii pamusoro pepitch yeelevator?

[00:09:34] Alexandra Steed: Izvo, zvakanaka, sekutaura kunoita zita, inzira yemamiriro ekugadzirisa ramangwana redu. Saka ndiri landscape architect. Chandinoziva kunyora manyorerwo enzvimbo. Handizivi kunyora mabhuku.

Saka zvandakaita ndakagadzira bhuku senzira yemamiriro ezvinhu. Ndakapa chiono chekuti tingagadzira sei ivhu idzva. Ndakabva ndaenda kunotsanangura pekutangira uye nemamiriro edu ezvinhu.

Ndakatarisa kuti takasvika sei panyaya iyi. Uye ipapo bhuku rinoenderera mberi nekutsanangura kuti isu zvino tinogona sei kushandura iyo mamiriro azvino kuita chimwe chinhu chakanyanya kunaka uye chakanyanya kunaka uye chakabatanidzwa.

Uye ini ndinozviita nekutsanangura misimboti yekugadzira iyo yandingawanzo kuita mune yemamiriro ekunze uyezve kubva ipapo kuenda kune zvishanu zviito zvakakosha izvo isu sevanhu, senharaunda, semarudzi, sevanhu vepasirese vatinogona kutora ipapo kutitungamira takananga. ramangwana rakanaka uye rine tariro uye regenerative.

[00:10:51] Jackie De Burca: Fantastic. Zvino, ndiani waunoona Alexandra seanotariswa nebhuku rako?

[00:10:57] Alexandra Steed: Zvakanaka, ini ndakanga ndisingadi kuinyorera chete kune vamwe vanogadzira kazhinji semugadziri wenzvimbo, ndiri kutaura nevamwe vanogadzira nzvimbo pamisangano yedu, pamhemberero dzemibairo, pa, munoziva, webinars, chinhu ichocho. . Uye isu tose tinonzwisisa zvinhu zvakafanana, pamwe tine, munoziva, kusiyana kwemaonero. Asi chokwadi, munoziva, ndiri kutotaura kune vakatendeuka pandinoita izvozvo. Uye chandaida kuita chaizvo kwaive kutsanangurira nyika yese kuti nei nzvimbo yakakosha. Uye parizvino, ini handisi kuona iyo mamiriro ekunze anowana chero kutariswa mumapepanhau.

Zvirokwazvo haina kutariswa kwakawanda maererano nenyika yebudiriro. Uye zvandaida kuti vanhu vanzwisise kuti nei vachifanira kuita hanya uye sei. Izvo zvakakosha sei maererano nemikana.

Uye kana tikatarisa pazviri, tinganyatsokunda sei matambudziko edu ezvakatipoteredza. Asi zvinopfuura izvozvo. Inowedzerawo mune zvakawanda zvezvinetso zvedu zvemagariro evanhu uye matambudziko ehupfumi zvakare. Saka ndaida kuti vanhu vaone zvese izvi zvikomborero zvinoshamisa izvo nzvimbo inogona kuunza kana isu tichiteerera pairi uye kana isu tichinyatsotarisa pairi maererano nekusimudzira kwevanhu.

[00:12:27] Jackie De Burca: Saka, chokwadi, tiri kurekodha izvi muna Chivabvu 2024, uye zvichaburitswa muna Chikumi 2024. Asi, munoziva, vanhu vanowanzoteerera kune izvi. podcasts kwemakore anotevera. Saka ndosaka ndiri kumaka zuva. Hapana chimwe chikonzero chazvo. Asi panguva ino, tangove nemwedzi mishoma mushure memutemo, iyo biodiversity mitsipa kuwana mitemo kubuda muEngland. Uye neimwe nzira, zvakafanana, zvakanaka, izvo zvishoma.

Zvidiki zvekubvuma kuti, zvakanaka, isu tinofanirwa kufunga nezvemamiriro ekunze kana toenda kunoita budiriro izvozvi nekuti takanganisa zvakanyanya uye ikozvino tinoda kuita chimwe chinhu. Kunyange zvisina kukwana, chimwe chinhu. Uye ndinofungidzira, munoziva, ndinofungidzira kuti zvinotiunza munzira yeku. Zvakafanana nekuziva kudiki uku. Uye nepo, sezvandinotaura, ini handitendi kuti zvakakwana zvachose, zvinotisvitsa kumubvunzo mukuru we, senge, hunhu uye hukama nemasikirwo. Tasvika pachinhanho chekuti tinofunga kuti tinofanira kuita mutemo wekuita chimwe chinhu chichaita mutsauko mudiki, kwete hazvo mutsauko mukuru. Izvi zvinounza mubvunzo muhombe pamusoro pehukama hwedu hwazvino kune zvakasikwa? Unofungei?

[00:13:36] Alexandra Steed: Zvakanaka, maita basa nekuunza biodiversity net gain nekuti sezvaunotaura, iro idanho rakakosha kumberi. Ini ndaitaura naProfessor David Hill svondo rapfuura, panguva yewebhu webinar, uye ndiye munhu ainyatso kurudzira kuti zvipenyu zvakasiyana siyana zviwane. Inyanzvi yezve ecologist, saka akange achishanda nehurumende kutsigira mutemo uyu kwemakore makumi maviri. Saka haisi pfungwa itsva. Uye zvinosuruvarisa, hazvina kunyatsobuda nenzira yaakazvionawo. Izvo zvakanyanya ikozvino zvishoma uye zvinotariswa zviri pa, pane saiti inowana kwete kubva panzvimbo, iyo. Zvisinei, ndizvo zvimwe.

[00:14:18] Jackie De Burca: Ndakangoti zvimwe chetezvo. Pamwe imwe hurukuro kana tikatenderwa kuburitsa pachena.

[00:14:23] Alexandra Steed: Hongu, asi hongu. Nyaya iripo ndeyekuti ini ndinoona kuti mamiriro ese aya atakazviwana tiri mune iyi, dambudziko rinotyisa maererano ne kuchinja kwemamiriro ekunze, kudziya kwepasi rose, kuparara kwezvakatipoteredza uye zvimwe zvinhu zvakawanda, maererano nekusvibiswa kwepurasitiki uye nzira yatiri kuona iyo arctic ice ichinyunguduka. Uye kune nyaya dzakawanda dzezvakatipoteredza zvino. Uye ini ndinonyatsoona kuti zvese zvinobva mukuona kwepasirese kune vazhinji vevemadokero nzanga, inova inovaka mbiri mbiri. Saka vanhu, isu maringe nemasikirwo, uye ndiwo mafungiro andinofunga kuti ane mazana emakore, pamwe kunyange mireniyumu yenhoroondo yekuzviona isu sevane simba pamusoro uye semhando yemukundi pane zvakasikwa. Uye izvo zvisikwa zviripo chaizvo kuti tishandise uye kuti hazvina kukosha kunze kwekushandisa kwatinopa zvisikwa. Saka ndosaka mumhando yedu yese yezvivakwa zvekutyaira, mune yedu systemic zvimiro munyika dzekumavirira ini ndichataura chete kubva mumaonero iwayo, ndeyekuti isu tave kuzviwana tiri munzvimbo yatichangotora uye tichitora uye tichibiridzira uye kubvisa uye kusamboisa mari kumashure, munoziva, uye ikozvino zvisikwa zvangokurirwa.

Paive nenguva yakati rebei apo zvisikwa zvaikwanisa kutora zvese zvinosvibisa uye zvinosvibisa uye ese emarara uye chepfu izvo vanhu vairasira mairi. Ikozvino kune vanhu vakawanda kwazvo pasi pano uye kune marara akawanda uye akawanda kusvibiswa kuti chisikwa hachichagoni kuchitora zvakare. Uye saka ikozvino ndosaka tiri kutanga kuona shanduko dzese idzi. Saka, munoziva, takazvipinza munyatwa zvekuti tave kuda imwe nzira yekufunga kuti tikwanise kubuda munyonganyonga iyi. Hatikwanise kutanga, hatigone kuramba tichidzokera kumafungiro edu mamwe chete, o, isu tinofanirwa kuuya nemamwe magadzirirwo etekinoroji. Icho chiri kunyatsofunga nezvekuti isu zvino tinoshanda sei takabatana nemasikirwo uye tinozviona sei sechikamu chezvisikwa pane kuti tiparadzane nazvo, izvo zvatiri chaizvo. Ndinoreva kuti, tinovimba zvachose nechikafu chatinodya, ivhu rinokura chikafu ichocho, mweya watinofema, mvura yakachena yatinonwa. Ndinovimba, vanhu vazhinji havawani mvura yakachena, asi zvese izvi zvinhu zvakakosha mumiviri yedu. Munoziva, ndezvipi, zvinotidyisa. Ndivo vanoita kuti kunyange miviri yedu irambe ichifamba uye inotipa hupenyu. Saka hazviparadzaniswi zvachose. Uye zvakadaro, asi neimwe nzira takagadzira ichi chivakwa icho, kuti isu takaparadzana. Zvino tinofanira kukunda izvozvo. Uye ndicho icho chikamu chikuru chekuchinja kubva pamufananidzo kuenda kumamiriro ezvinhu.

[00:17:50] Jackie De Burca: Ini ndichakanda chimwe chinhu imomo icho chisiri chikamu chebhuku rako, asi chakabatana mupfungwa yekuti, hongu, pane hunyambiri, zviri pachena, hukama hwamakakurukura. Uye ipapo pane kubata 22 iyo ruzhinji rwevanhu vezera rakati, ngatiti zera rekushanda, rinoda kuwana mari. Uye saka ivo vakanamira mumhando iyi senge, munoziva, kutenderera kwekuda kuwana mari. Uye havangove nemukana wakawanda wekutanga kushandura maonero avo, kunyangwe vakaverenga bhuku rako kana kutora, munoziva, mamwe marudzi enhau.

Inguvai ingani vanhu vanofanira kunyatsochinja uye kuona, unoziva here zvandiri kutaura?

[00:18:34] Alexandra Steed: Ehe. Zvakanaka, mubvunzo wakanaka. Uye zvechokwadi, chimwe chinhu chandinofunga kuti kuchinja kunofanira kuitika mukati. Uye kana izvo zvaitika, ndinofunga maonero ako ese ehupenyu anoshanduka. Uyezve, semuenzaniso, chaunosarudza kuitira basa rako chinogona kunge chiri chimwe chinhu chakasiyana kwazvo pane chawakasarudza kare, madyiro aunoita, unoziva, izvo zvinozoshandura matorero aunoita kubva kune a kuenda ku b. Iwe unoziva, pamwe pane kusarudza kutyaira uye kushandisa mafuta, unogona kusarudza kufamba kana kutenderera uye kunyatsoita maekisesaizi uye, unoziva, chokwadi chekudyisa muviri wako saizvozvo. Saka pane zvinhu zvose izvi. Kana isu tatanga kuve nemaonero akasiyana nemararamiro edu ipapo, ndinofunga, tanga kushanduka zvakare. Uye ndinoziva zvakaitika muhupenyu hwangu. Iwe unoziva, zvakanyanya uye zvakanyanya zvakangosiyana zvakasiyana zvemafungiro iwayo zvino zvinosanganiswa muhupenyu hwangu uye zvinongove chikamu chemaitiro angu ezuva nezuva, izvo zvandisingachatombofunga nezvazvo zvakare. Asi ini ndinofunga, zvakanaka, kudzokera kumubvunzo webasa nemabasa, pane chaizvo mukana wakakura wekuti vanhu vapinde mumhando dzakasiyana dzegirinhi dzemaitiro. Uye semuenzaniso, hurumende nehurumende pasi rese vakati panosvika gore ra2030, tinofanira kunge tachengetedza 30% yevhu ne30% yemakungwa, uye zvakadaro kune vanhu vashoma, vashoma vakadzidziswa. kuchengetedza, mukutonga kwepaki uye zvakadaro zvechinhu. Uye zvakadaro tichava neaya ese akachengetedzwa nzvimbo dzemuchadenga dzine vanhu vashoma vanoziva nzira yekuzvibata. Saka pane kushomeka kukuru kweruzivo uye hunyanzvi. Saka tinoda kuti vanhu vatange kuenda kuminda idzo kare dzainge dziine mari shoma, dzaive nemhando shoma dzenzira dzedzidzo kuburikidza, asi iko zvino dzave kutora uye saka kune mikana yakawanda, yakawanda nenzira iyoyo. Ndiwo mumwe muenzaniso werudzi rwebasa iro vanhu vangangowana.

[00:20:50] Jackie De Burca: Hongu, ndinoreva, imhinduro huru. Zvawakambotaura nezvazvo, unoziva, kana uchinge watanga kuchinjika, unoziva, imwe kana mbiri dzediki shanduko yekuti chiri chikafu kana kufamba famba kwete mota kana kuchovha bhasikoro, uye zvakangofanana nekurovedza muviri kana kudya. hurumende, kana wangotanga, unoziva, kuti upfuure hutongi zvishoma uye zvinongova chikamu chehupenyu hwako. Saka ipfungwa yakanaka. Zvino, pamwe tinofanira kuita nhaurirano muna 2030, kana zvisati zvamboitika, zvichireva kuona kuti tose tiri papi muna 2030. Asi ndiko kungozvikanda uko nekuti kwasara makore matanhatu chete. Zviripachena, tiri kudzokera kubhuku. Zviri pachena. Ngatitaurei nezve landscape se canvas mhenyu.

[00:21:31] Alexandra Steed: Rudyi? Zvakanaka, ini ndinodawo kutaura uku, nekuti, zvakanaka, kwandiri, zvinonzwika semumwe munhu akatanga kudzidziswa semuimbi. Saka ndinonzwisisa maitiro e arthem uye maitiro ekupenda. Uye chandinonyanya kuda nezve landscape kugona kwayo uye hunhu hwayo hwekugara shanduko.

Saka kunyangwe chiri chakakosha uye chakasimba, zvakare chimwe chinhu chinogara chichichinja uye kuchinjira kune dzakasiyana siyana dzinotambirwa. Uye isu tine mukana wekubva tashanda nenzvimbo sekambasi mhenyu uye nekubatsira kuiveza nenzira ine hutano uye inounza kudzoreredza pane kudzikira. Iwe unoziva, panguva ino, iwe unoziva, iyo nyika inogara ichishandurwa.

Asi panguva ino, ingave yerudzi rwezvinoitika kana nemaune, mazhinji ezvipo uye mazhinji esimba ratiri kuita pamamiriro ekunze ari kuzvishandura nenzira yekuti, munoziva, izvo zvisina kunaka, izvo zvinokonzeresa. kudzikira kwezvipenyu kana, munoziva, rudzi irworwo rwekubata chibharo nzvimbo. Asi isu tine mukana uyu wekuchinja zvachose icho uye kuchiveza uye kugadzira, sezvawakataura, jira mhenyu, chimwe chinhu chakanakisa uye chiri kusimudzira nekukura uye chatinogona kubatsira vatariri. Saka isu tine mukana uyu wekuva vatariri vepasi pane rudzi rwevapari vayo vakurusa.

[00:23:26] Jackie De Burca: Saka imwe yemakotesheni aunoshandisa mubhuku, Albert Einstein, munhu wenyama, chikamu chezvose zvakadanwa nesu denga. Icho chingori chikamu chidiki chidiki chekotesheni yawasanganisira iyo inodzokera kune zvataitaura nezvazvo, chaizvo, zvekuti tinonzwa takaparadzana kubva kune zvakasikwa.

Iwe unoona sei kuti tinogona kupfuura izvozvo? Ndinoreva, maererano, iwe wakataura nezvazvo, sekufamba uye kuchovha bhasikoro, pane mamwe matipi aungave nawo iwe aungave nawo kune vataridzi uye vateereri kuti vanogona sei kamwe kamwe kana zvakanyanya kukurumidza kuswedera kune zvakasikwa?

[00:24:04] Alexandra Steed: Zvakanaka, mubvunzo mukuru.

Ndinoziva kuti zvakaoma kune vazhinji vedu. Iwe unoziva, kugara muLondon, ini kazhinji ndakanga ndisina kana gadheni, pamwe kwete kana patio kana dhizaini. Uye ndinoziva kune vazhinji, vanhu vazhinji pasi rose vakabviswa kubva munyika, vakabviswa kubva muvhu, uye zvinogona kunge zvakaoma, chaizvo. Uye saka, ndinoreva, parizvino ndiri kuVancouver. Ndinofunga panguva ino uri kuona ese aya anosiya kumashure kwangu. Muguta rakaita seVancouver, zviri nyore kuti ubatanidze kune zvakasikwa nekuti unoenda kunze uye maminetsi mashoma kure, panogona kunge paine mukoto werukova wekufamba nawo. Uye pane mukana wekungoita zvekutora kunaka kwe masango vakakupoteredza kana kutarisa kunze kwegungwa uye kunzwa kusunungurwa kweiyo. Asi muguta, ndingangoti ndingowana nguva idzodzo. Ndakaona kuti nekuti ndakafamba nzvimbo zhinji kana ndiri muLondon, izvo zvinondipa mukana wekubatana nenyika zvakanyanya. Saka ndaizosarudza nzira, semuenzaniso, dzinopfuura nemumakwere, dzinopfuura nemumigwagwa yakasvibira, inogona kufamba nemugero kana nerwizi. Ndiri kuita sarudzo idzi nezve mafambiro atinoita, chaizvo, inzira inoshamisa yekubatana nemasikirwo. Imwe nzira, ndingati kunyangwe iwe usina gadheni, uchingoisa zvirimwa zvishoma pahwindo rako uye uchiona zvichikura uye nemhando yekuzvitarisira, izvo pachazvo zvinokubatsira iwe rudzi rwekubatanidza kumashure kune zvakasikwa. Kazhinji ndichange ndine chirimwa chakagara padhesiki rangu, uye muzuva rose, ndinoda kuva neorchid padhesiki rangu, semuenzaniso. Saka ini ndinongotarisa muruva, mukati memaruva pacharo parinenge ratumbuka, uye ndoona kuti nguva idzodzo dzandinofanira kungobatanidza kudzoka kuruva rimwe chete, dzakabatsira chaizvo kundidzika uye kundidzosa kune zvakakosha uye.

Uye kuona kubatana kwangu nemamwe marudzi ehupenyu uye humwe hupenyu. Saka, iwe unoziva, zvinogona kungova idzo nguva dzatinotora kuti titarise mamwe mafomu ehupenyu. Saka, iwe unoziva, kana iwe une imbwa, iyo inogona kuva nzira inoshamisa yekubatanidza. Kana katsi. Mhuka dzinowanzotibatsira chaizvo kuti tibatane isu pachedu uye kuti tibatane kune zvimwe zvinhu. Saka ndingati, kana uchigona gadheni, icho chinhu chinoshamisa kuita. Kupinza maoko ako muvhu uye kuona kupfuma ikoko uye hupenyu mukati mevhu pacharo zvinogonawo kushamisa.

Saka pane zvinhu zvidiki zvakawanda zvatinokwanisa kuita. Uye ini ndinofunga kana ukatanga diki, uyezve netariro, nekufamba kwenguva, inogona kuvaka iyo kubatana.

[00:26:56] Jackie De Burca: Hongu, kune rimwe zano rakanaka chaizvo, uye ndicho chinhu chose chirikuchipatsanura kuita zvishoma, mavambo madiki anogoneka zvisinei nekwaunogara. Saka ndizvo, munoziva, zviri pachena kuti zvinobatsira chaizvo. Iwe unoshandisa fananidzo mubhuku rako maererano nehurongwa hwekuona kwevanhu, izvo zvandakaona zvichinakidza. Unogona kutsanangura pane izvi?

[00:27:17] Alexandra Steed: Ehe, zvakanaka. Ndakanganwa zvino mashandisiro andinoita fananidzo iyoyo, asi, munoziva, ndine mabhuku akawanda pasherufu yangu yemabhuku, mamwe andisingagari ndichiverenga mune mamwe. Saka pese pano neapo, ini ndichadhonza chimwe chinhu kubva pasherufu yemabhuku uye ndofunga, o, wow, unoziva, bhuku iri harisi nezve, senge, munda wangu wekuedza, asi zvakadaro dzimwe nguva unongodaro. tora matombo anokosha aya, handizvo here? Saka paiva nebhuku randakanga ndinaro pasherufu yangu. Ini ndinofunga yaive yakanaka dhizaini yakaitwa naStephen Hawking, uye mairi, ari kutaura nezve maonero edu ekuona uye kuti iwo akanyanya sei kune anoona isu, sezvavari pamusoro pezvatiri kuona. Zviitiko zvechisikigo zvakatipoteredza munyika, kunyangwe chiitiko chekuona. Saka isu tine zvese izvi zvinoonekwa zviitiko zvinotibhowa. Kwete kungoona chete, asi marudzi ese ezvinoitika zvekunzwa zvinotibhowa nguva dzese. Uye isu neimwe nzira zvino tinofanira kusefa izvozvo nemumaziso edu. Uye pane nzvimbo, ndinofunga kuti ndipo panosangana tsinga yemaziso neretina. Saka patinotarisa nyika yakatitenderedza, pane buri guru panzvimbo iyo tsinga yemaziso inosangana neretina. Uye saka pfungwa dzedu dzinofanira kushanda kuti dzizadzise maburi ese iwayo. Uye inozviita nekuva neimwe mhando yezvivakwa zviri nyore uye zviri nyore kuitira kuti zvipfuure nepakati pedata uye nzira refu kwazvo yekuti tikwanise kunzwisisa nyika yakatitenderedza. Saka, zvakadaro, izvi zvakatikonzera. Uyu ungori muenzaniso mumwe wekuti pfungwa dzedu dzinobva dzazadza sei maburi uye dzinoedza kurerutsa chimwe chinhu chakanyanya kuoma. Uye ini ndinofunga ichi ndicho chimwe chezvikonzero nei uku kuvakwa kwehunyambiri kwevanhu vachipesana nemasikirwo kuri nyore kwatiri kuti tinzwisise, nekuti kunoita chimwe chinhu chakanyanya, chakaomarara. Zvisikwa zvakaoma zvikuru. Zvakakwana. Zvakanaka, kwete zvachose, asi hazvizivikanwi.

Hatizivikanwi. Hatimbofi takanzwisisa zvose pamusoro pezvisikwa. Uye saka tinoisa zvivakwa izvi munzvimbo zvinotibatsira kunzwisisa uye kusefa ruzivo urwu. Ndinofunga kuti ndicho chimwe chezvikonzero zvaita kuti tisvike pakadai. Uye saka ikozvino isu tinofanirwa kuwedzera kuoma kunzwisisa kuti tinzwisise kuti, hongu, isu tiri vanhu, asi isu tiriwo chikamu chese. Uye saka tinofanira kuva nekunzwisisa kwakanyanya kuoma kwenzvimbo yedu munyika.

[00:30:07] Jackie De Burca: Fantastic. Zvino, kudzokera kumatanho ekutanga ebhuku rako, unotaura nezvekuwedzera denderedzwa redu retsitsi. Chii chinoitika kana tikaita izvi?

[00:30:19] Alexandra Steed: Zvakanaka, ndiwo mutsara wandakawana kubva kumashoko aEinstein awambotaura, uye ndinoida chose. Pandakaverenga chirevo kubva kuna Einstein, ndakafunga, wow, munoziva, zvese zvaari kutaura pano, anotaura nezve sei.

Vanhu vane maonero ekunyengedza kwekuziva sei, kuti isu takaparadzana kubva kune zvakasikwa, uye kuti basa redu ipapo rinofanira kunge riri rekumbundira zvese zvakasikwa nekunaka kwayo. Uye, munoziva, anozvitaura. Anotaura zvinopfuura izvozvo. Asi ndakaona kuti chirevo ichocho chakanyatso kufukidza zvese zvandanga ndichifunga nezvazvo maererano nemamiriro edu ezvinhu, kuti matambudziko edu azvino chii, uyezve kuti tingaakunda sei nekumbundira zvisikwa. Uye saka kune vamwe vanhu vazhinji vanotaura nezve pfungwa dzakafanana, Aldo Leopold ari mumwe wavo. Pose pandinenge ndiri. Ari.

Zvakanaka, ndiye mumwe wevanonyanya kuzivikanwa vanochengetedza, anobva kuAmerica uye aigara mumazana e19. Uye akauya nepfungwa iyi ye ecocentrism. Saka ndiko kusuduruka kubva pakungotarisa vanhu, ingave anthropocentrism, uye panzvimbo pacho kutarisa zvakanyanya uye zvakabatanidzwa maonero enyika, inova ecocentrism. Saka de kusimbisa kukosha kwevanhu chete uye kusimbisa kukosha kwezvisikwa zvipenyu zvose uye zvose zvepasi. Saka ivhu, mvura, mhepo, zvirimwa, mhuka, zvose izvi zvinhu zvinokosha muupenyu. Uye saka ndipo pandinofunga nezvekumbundira zvisikwa zvese, zvakanyanya nezve shanduko yemafungiro zvakare, iyo paradigm shanduko inotiona sechikamu chimwe che biosphere, yeiyi yakakura, yakabatana webhu yehupenyu.

Uye kana tangoita izvozvo, zvino tinogona kuzvigamuchira zviri nyore, uye tozvigamuchira kwete mupfungwa dzedu chete, asi kuburikidza nezviito zvedu. Asi ndinofunga kuti zvinofanirwa kutanga zvatanga mupfungwa zvozoonekwa panyama kuburikidza nezviito zvedu.

[00:32:53] Jackie De Burca: Fantastic. Zvino, pakupedzisira, yeichi chikamu chekutanga, nekuti isu tine akati wandei episodhi ari kuuya pabhuku rako, nekuti rakafanirwa nazvo, chii chinonzi nyika?

[00:33:04] Alexandra Steed: Ah, zvakanaka. Zvakanaka, mubvunzo wakanaka, nekuti ndicho chinhu chakaiswa naAldo Leopold. Saka akange ashanda makore ese aya seanochengetedza, uye akawana kuburikidza nebasa rake rose kuti zviri kutochinja manzwisisiro nemafungiro evanhu izvo zvichava nemhedzisiro yakakosha uye shanduko.

Saka akanyora iyi tsika yepasi inotaura chimwe chinhu nenzira iyo, munoziva, isu tine tsika dzakatenderedza kuti vanhu vanodyidzana sei. Tine maitiro ekuti vanhu vanobatana sei nenharaunda yevanhu vakavapoteredza. Asi chatisina itsika pamusoro pekuti isu, sevanhu tinodyidzana sei nezvisikwa uye nenyika. Uye saka izvo zvisipo. Saka tine zvinhu zvakaita semirairo ine gumi, mutemo wegoridhe, unotibatsira kutitungamira nekutipa kambasi yetsika maererano nemabatiro atinoita munyika, asi isu hatina chinhu chinotibatsira mhando yekudzora maitiro edu kune nyika. Uye saka tsika yake yepasi iyo yaakaisa mubhuku raakanyora rinonzi Asand County Almanac, inotaridza mabatiro atinofanira kunyatso tambira iyi tsika yepasi kubatsira kutungamira nzira nyowani uye kunzwisisa kuti tese tiri vagari vepasi rino. Havasi vanhu vanogaramo chete. Tese tiri vagari, tose zvisikwa vagari vepasi rino, uye isu tinofanirwa kuchengetedza nekudzora maitiro edu kuitira kuchengetedza mamwe zvisikwa. Uye saka ndinofunga kuti ndicho chinhu chakakosha pane kudzidza kudzora maitiro atinoita uye mabatiro atinoita uye nekugara kwatinoita pasi pano. Uye kusvikira takwanisa kudaro, ticharamba tichiita mhirizhonga kune mamwe marudzi ehupenyu.

[00:35:17] Jackie De Burca: Iyo ipfungwa inoodza moyo zvishoma asi yechokwadi apo tinogona kupedza chikamu ichi. Zviripachena tarisira kune ramangwana episodhi kwaunoziva, iwe unenge uchiisa kunze kwakawanda kweiyo nitty gritty yekuti tingazvibvisa sei kubva mukukanganisa.

Uye zvakare zvinonakidza kwazvo, munoziva, kana vanhu vachitarisa, sezvatichakurukura muchikamu chinotevera, apo vanhu vanonyatsotarisa nhoroondo yerudzi rwevanhu, idiki chaizvo pakuona kwese uye ndicho chinhu chatichava. kutaura nezvazvo muchikamu chinotevera. Alexandra, wanga uri mufaro wakakwana kuva newe.

[00:35:51] Alexandra Steed: Oo, ndinokutendai zvikuru, Jackie. Zvinofadza.

[00:35:54] Mutauri A: Aya Manzwi Anovaka. Inovaka Mazwi iyo podcast yevanhu vekuvaka vane nhau, maonero uye nyanzvi kubvunzurudza.

 

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