I-S3, E22: I-Cavity Wall Insulation: Ingxaki efihliweyo kunye no-Damian Mercer we-Cavity Extraction

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[00:00:03] USteve Randall: Molo kwaye wamkelekile kuMazwi akhayo. NdinguSteve Randall. Kwesi siqendu, sithetha ngokugqunywa kodonga lomngxunya. Ngoku, isenokungabi yinto enomtsalane, isenokungabi yinto oye wacinga ngayo mva nje, kodwa kukho ingxaki kwiindawo ezininzi nakwiipropathi ezininzi, kwaye eneneni inokuba sisigculelo sesizwe. Masifumanise ngakumbi kundwendwe lwethu.

[00:00:32] UDamian Mercer: Molo, igama lam nguDamian Mercer. Ndingumnini kunye nomlawuli weCavity Extraction Ltd.

[00:00:39] USteve Randall: Uqaqambileyo. Ewe, wamkelekile kuMazwi akhayo, Damien. Ndiqinisekile ukuba uninzi lwabaphulaphuli bethu bayazi kakuhle into yokugquma eludongeni, kodwa ukusinika nje amagqabantshintshi, yintoni?

[00:00:48] UDamian Mercer: Ukufakwa eludongeni lwe-Cavity kukukhusela kwipropathi ukunciphisa Imibhalo yenyawo yekhabhoni. Icala le-retrofit lokugquma eludongeni kulapho iphonswa khona emva kokuba isakhiwo sakhiwe. Xa ufumana isakhiwo esitsha kwaye zigqunyiwe, zakhiwe kwindawo ukuze kubekho umsantsa phakathi kwe-insulation kunye ne-retrofit, yinkqubo epheleleyo yokuzalisa i-cavity.

[00:01:19] USteve Randall: Kwaye sithetha ngakumbi namhlanje malunga neziphumo zokungaphumeleli ukugquma eludongeni.

Kuxhaphake kangakanani oku kwaye luhlobo luni lwezinto ezenzekayo xa oku kungaphumeleli ukubuyisela kwakhona?

[00:01:31] UDamian Mercer: Ukufakwa kodonga lwe-Cavity kuyasilela ngesantya esothusayo kum. Uyazi, ishishini lam lineminyaka eyi-10 kwaye silibonile likhula unyaka nonyaka oko laqalayo. Sikhupha kwiimeko zabucala kunye nezorhwebo ezifana nemibutho yezindlu kunye nabantu abanjalo. Kwaye ekuqaleni, kwiminyaka eli-10 eyadlulayo, besisenza izicatshulwa ezimbalwa ngeveki. Sixambulisana phakathi kwe-10 kunye ne-15 ye-extractions ngeveki ngoku. Ukufakwa kwe-Cavity kunye namanani ngokucacileyo anyukile ngenxa yokuba kukho inkuthazo karhulumente yokuqinisekisa ukuba iipropati zase-UK zidibene nomgangatho ophantsi kunye nee-EPC zazo. Ngoko kwakukho umqhubi omkhulu ukulungiswa kwakhona Ubushushu.

Kwaye, uyazi, ndicinga ukuba isibalo sokugqibela sasikwindawo ethile phakathi kwe-14 kunye nesiqingatha sezigidi zeepropathi kumhlaba wase-UK zifakelwe ngokugqunywa eludongeni.

[00:02:34] USteve Randall: Ke sithetha ngamanani amakhulu. Xa izinto zingahambi kakuhle, kukho iimpembelelo kwezemali, kokusingqongileyo, kwezempilo. Ndiyathetha, zonke ezi zinto zinefuthe. Kwenzeka ntoni ke?

[00:02:44] UDamian Mercer: Into eqhelekileyo uya kuqaphela ukuba kukho ukungunda okanye ukufuma okuvela kwezinye iindonga, ngakumbi kwiinyanga zasebusika xa uzama ukugcina ngaphakathi kwipropathi yakho kwi-19 degrees kwaye kuthabatha isibini ngaphandle. Kwenye indawo phakathi kothabatha isibini kunye ne-19 degrees ngu-zero. Le yindawo yombethe. Kwaye ukuba awuphumelelanga ukugquma eludongeni, inokusilela kwizinto ezikumngxunya okanye indawo ebandayo ngaphakathi komngxuma ophinde wafakwa ngokwawo. Kwaye ke xa ufumana indawo yombethe ebumba, imanzisa isigqubuthelo. I-insulation iba manzi ngokulandelelanayo, imanzisa ngaphakathi okanye inyuse ixabiso lokufuma lemvulophu yangaphakathi yepropathi kwaye oko kubangela indawo yokuzalela efumileyo kwaye ke ngokulandelelana ngundo kunye neziphumo zempilo ezinokulandela olo hlobo lwenkqubo, ukusuka. nantoni na evela kwisifuba, iimeko zolusu ukunyuka kweCOPD kunye nezinto ezinjalo.

[00:03:51] USteve Randall: Ngaba ucinga ukuba le ngxaki yokungaphumeleli kokugquma eludongeni ihlala ijongwa kakubi, ngakumbi ngabanini-mhlaba? Ukuba abazisi mntu ngaphakathi, banokucinga ukuba mhlawumbi i-extractor fan apha naphaya iyakuyilungisa, okanye mhlawumbi amatywina ahambile, ukukhenkceza kabini kwaye ukuba bayayilungisa loo nto, iya kuba lungisa kwaye eneneni yinto ebaluleke ngakumbi ekufuneka bayijonge.

. umoya. Ngokuqinisekileyo njengorhulumente bekufanele ukuba siphande ngeenkqubo zokugqunyelelwa kwe-retrofit, ngakumbi ukugqunywa kwemingxunya, kwaye ingaba yintoni impembelelo yaloo mveliso kwisitokhwe sezindlu sase-UK? Ngoku, into esikholisa ukuyifumana kuxa abantu befumanisa kakubi, kwaye besenza ngalo lonke ixesha, iziqinisekiso ezimanzi ziya kuthi, owu, unobumanzi obunyukayo kwaye siya kungena kwaye siya kuqhekezela i-900 phezulu kuyo yonke indlela. emazantsi endlu yakho kwaye siya kukunika inaliti yekhemikhali kwaye emva koko uyityalike kwakhona. Oko kufana nodaka oluncamathelayo phezu kwengxaki. Oyena nobangela kukuba kufuneka ujonge loo nobangela kwaye inokuba yiyo nayiphi na into esuka kwimigqomo yamavili ibe kwindawo engalunganga ukufaka ngokungafanelekanga ukugqunywa kodonga lomngxunya kwimiba yogcino olungaphandle kwepropati ukuba ukwiindawo ezisesichengeni esiphezulu. Kodwa iingxaki zokwenyani esinazo zokugquma eludongeni kufakwe kwindawo engalunganga kuhlobo olungalunganga lwesitokhwe sezindlu. Kwaye into esiyifumanisayo kukuba sibizwa ngalo lonke ixesha ukuba siphume siye kwenza umsebenzi wokulungisa loo propati. Ngoku, kubulumko bamaxabiso, uyazi, ukuba ukhupha ipropati, isenokuba kwenye indawo, uyazi, indlu ka-1940s evalelweyo, umzekelo, malunga ne-105 square metres, i-110 square metres, ungaba naphina phakathi kwe-2,500. ukuya kwi-£3,500 kuloo ndawo. Kuxhomekeke kuhlobo lokugquma. Ngoko ke inokuba yifayibha okanye ifayibha yeglasi okanye i-polystyrene bead. Kukho iintlobo ezahlukeneyo zamagwebu. Kukho enye ebixhaphake kakhulu kumaphephandaba kutshanje ngamabango omthetho we-SSB apho basebenzise igwebu le-urethane, eligwebu eliqinileyo elingena ngaphakathi kwimingxuma. Kwaye ekuphela kwendlela yokuyisusa ngokwenene kukuwisa umphezulu ongaphambili. Kwaye ke amadala okwenyani ukusuka kwi-25 yeminyaka udibene, uya kufumana into ebizwa ngokuba yi-urea formaldehyde, igwebu elimhlophe ekulula ukulikhupha kuba liyaqhekeka xa ufaka iinkampani zeenqwelomoya kunye nezabhokhwe apho. Logama nje unendawo yofikelelo elungileyo yokuyisusa ngevacuum ngokunjalo, ithe ngqo. Kodwa, uyazi, kukho ingxaki ngodonga lokugquma eludongeni. Kwaye ndicinga ukuba yehla kwisitokhwe sezindlu, kodwa iphinda ifike kwimigaqo-nkqubo karhulumente ngokunciphisa i-carbon footprint. Kwaye ezinye iinkampani zinomdla ngakumbi ukuba zingavuna kangakanani ikhabhoni endlwini yakho kunokunciphisa ibhilikhi yakho yokufudumeza. Kwaye ke ngokulandelelana, ukuba yimveliso engalunganga, iya kuxabisa ngaphezulu kuba ufumana imvulophu emanzi ejikeleze ngaphandle kwendawo yakho. Kwaye xa unemvulophu emanzi, kuba nzima ukufudumeza. Kuyafana nokuba siye kuqubha elwandle. Xa sele ungene elwandle, ubuya kubuya uphume. Akukho sizathu sokukugquma ngengubo emanzi kuba awusoze ufudumale. Wena, ufudumala xa ubeka ingubo eyomileyo okanye itawuli eyomileyo, eyomileyo ejikeleze kuwe. Kwaye iyafana, yinkqubo efanayo kanye. Ukuba unesigqubuthelo sombhobho omanzi ojikeleze indlu yakho, into yokuqala ekufuneka uyenzile kukufudumeza ezo ndonga zifumileyo okanye ezinomgxobhozo omanzi kuqala, kwaye ke uya kuziva uluncedo lokuzama ukuwufudumeza. Kodwa nje ukuba oku kufudumala kucofa ngokuhlwa kwaye nobushushu buqale ukutsalwa ngaphandle kwendlu yakho ngesantya esikhawulezayo, uya kuqaphela kwangoko ukuba unengxaki. Uyazi, imvulophu eyomileyo engenasigqubuthelo eneneni isebenza ngcono kunepropathi engaphumeleliyo yokugquma eludongeni.

[00:08:28] USteve Randall: Ngoku, sizibonile iimeko zitshintsha ngezinto ezisetyenziswayo. Ngoko ke leyo isoloko ivela yiasbestos. Uyazi, ngekhe sisebenzise loo nto kule mihla. Ndiyazi ukuba amanye amazwe asenayo. Kwaye ke kukho iimeko ezifana ne-rack scandal, enokuthi ichaphazele abaninzi, abaninzi izakhiwo, izikolo, izibhedlele, kwaye oko kwaba lihlazo elikhulu lesizwe. Ngaba sithetha ngale nto ngokumalunga nezixhobo ezingalunganga ezazisetyenziswa ngelo xesha okanye ngokujonga emva bekukho izinto ezingalunganga okanye sikwindawo yehlazo ngale nto, uyacinga?

[00:08:59] UDamian Mercer: Imvakalelo yam yobuqu yinto encinci kuzo zombini. Ndicinga ukuba xa oorhulumente ngo-1992, xa besayina kwisivumelwano sokuqala saseKyoto, esizizivumelwano ezijonge ukunciphisa i-carbon footprint, ndicinga ukuba yonke ingcamango yindlela esiya kuyenza ngayo loo nto. Kwaye ngenxa yokuba sisayine kuyo, bekukho uloyiko oluncinci kuba oko kwafakwa kwi, ukunciphisa indawo yekhabhoni yafakwa kwiinkampani zamandla. Kwaye njani, baya kuyenza njani loo nto? Kulungile, makhe sisebenzise ukugquma eludongeni. Masiyigqume ngaphakathi kweso sikhewu. Ngaba yinto elungileyo okanye engalunganga? Ndicinga ukuba kwezinye iimeko ukugquma eludongeni lomgodi kunokuba yi-asethi epheleleyo kwipropathi yakho. Kodwa ukuba ukwindawo yokuvezwa 4, ngoko ke iCumbria, uninzi lonxweme lwaseLancashire, unxweme lwaseWelsh oluhlayo okanye nantoni na kwicala lasentshona lelizwe, ukwindawo esemngciphekweni wemvula eqhutywa ngumoya. Imvula eqhutywa ngumoya kunye nokubuyisela kwakhona. Ukufakwa eludongeni lweCavity akuhambi kunye kwaye ndicinga ukuba loo nto ibingahoywa luninzi lwezi nkampani. Babenomdla kakhulu ekuvuneni ikhabhoni kunokuba bagqume iipropati. Ngoko ke uyazi, siya kuba yintoni isisombululo? Isisombululo kukuyikhupha kwaye ucinge kwakhona kwaye ujonge i-retrofit.

Umhlaba kufuneka ujonge izindlu hayi kwisikali sekhowudi yeposi kodwa ngokomntu ngamnye. Kwaye kule minyaka yakutshanje siye saqalisa ukuhla ngaloo ndlela. Basebenzise iindlela ezintsha zokufakela iimveliso ezingcono kwaye ngoku igcinwe ngcono kancinci. Kodwa ngaphambili iinkampani zesiqinisekiso azizange zikwenze mapolisa ezi fakelo. Ezi nkampani zisethe i-installer kwaye ngoku ziye zanyamalala, uyazi, zinyamalele nje kuba zinciphisa i-liability yazo. Ngaba lihlazo? Ndicinga ukuba ngoku kungenxa yokuba le minyaka ili-10 idlulileyo sixelele abantu malunga nokungaphumeleli kokufakwa kwe-cavity kunye neengxaki enazo kwaye uyazi, ekuqaleni yayiyi-poo pooed. Uyazi, abantu abazange ngokwenene. Ewe asikholelwa ukuba ngoku banokubona eyona nto, iingxaki ezibangelwa yiyo. Uyazi, imibutho yezindlu iyayisusa le mveliso kwaye ijonge iimveliso ezingcono ngoku ukunciphisa i-carbon footprint. Ukhumbula iipropati zombutho wezindlu zijonge ukufumana ireyithingi ye-EPC ye-C okanye engcono. Kwaye bayenza njani loo nto, bona, bajonge enye yokuphucula intuthuzelo yezindlu zabathengi babo kodwa baphucule isitokhwe sezindlu kwaye banokujonga ukugquma eludongeni lwangaphandle.

Zonke ezi ntlobo ze iiretrofits inokuba Luhle kwiimeko ezithile. Kodwa xa bengabanjwanga njengangaphambili, kukho iingxaki. Bendisezantsi eWestminster Kutshanje ndithetha namaLungu ePalamente malunga nokusilela kodonga lokugquma eludongeni kwaye sakhetha, xa bendibuza uhlobo lwesikali sale nto, ukuba sijonge kwi-14 kunye nesiqingatha sezigidi, endicinga ukuba ingaphezulu. , Ndicinga ukuba isondele kwi-15 kunye nesiqingatha sezigidi ngoku, ukuba lelo nani. Kwaye kwabakho uphononongo oluzimeleyo oluqhutywa yi-BBA CIT ngaphaya eMntla Ayalend apho baye baphanda isitokhwe sezindlu zoMntla Ireland. Kwaye loo ngxelo yayingumbutho ozimeleyo owawujongile kwaye beza nenani le-75% yempahla yezindlu e-Northern Ireland yayingaphumeleli, yasilela okanye ifakwe ngokungachanekanga. Wowu. Ke loo mizimba mithathu, ukuba uyidlulisele e-UK, kukho unxulumano phakathi kohlobo lwesitokhwe sezindlu eNorthern Ireland kunye nale sinayo apha, i-75% ye-14 kunye nesiqingatha sesigidi se-quid yindlu eninzi kakhulu. . Inxalenye yehlazo kuxa besiya kwinkampani yesiqinisekiso besithi soyisakele ukugquma eludongeni, bashiywe bephezulu kwaye bomile kuba, uyazi, inkampani inokuphuma ithi, utshintshile iifestile zakho? Ewe nditshintshiwe iifestile zam kuba bezibonakala zigugile kwaye uyazi, siye salungisa. Ewe, uphazamisile ukugquma ukuze iziqinisekiso zakho zingabikho kwaye zingabikho. Kodwa ke ngokwemiqathango kunye neemeko eziya phambili ezantsi kwephepha, ithi ukuba awuyigcini ipropathi yakho, uya kuyicima neyakho.

[00:14:04] USteve Randall: Ewe, uyazi, bakufumene nokuba yeyiphi na indlela.

[00:14:06] UDamian Mercer: Ewe, banawe nokuba yeyiphi na indlela. Ke iphepha, alifanelanga ukuba liphepha elibhalwe kulo kwaye ezi nkampani bekufanele ukuba zigcinwe ngamapolisa, kodwa ngokwenene bezisebenza ngokwazo.

[00:14:18] USteve Randall: Kwaye ndicinga ukuba into elapha, Damian, kukuba, uyazi, sithetha ngalo mbandela uthile, kodwa siyazi ukuba kuya kubakho zonke iintlobo zemigaqo-nkqubo malunga nokunciphisa. i-carbon footprint kunye neminye imiba yokusingqongileyo. Kwaye indlela oorhulumente kunye nabaqulunqi bemigaqo-nkqubo batyekele ekusebenzeni kukuba, kufuneka babe nakho ukuyithengisa eluntwini nakwabo kufuneka benze umsebenzi. Ngoko ke bakhangela izisombululo ezinokuthi zenziwe ngokomlinganiselo. Nokuba zifanelekile na okanye azifanelekanga, zinokwenziwa ngokwesikali ukugcina ixabiso liphantsi. Ke le yindawo enye kwaye kuya kubakho ezinye izinto eziya kufana nale ziziswe ngumgaqo-nkqubo. Zibekwe endaweni kuba sisisombululo scalable, nokuba ayilunganga. Ke ndicinga ukuba kubaluleke kakhulu ukuba wenze umsebenzi wokuphembelela owenzayo norhulumente. Uyazi, yintoni, bathini? Ngaba, ngaba baye bakunika nayiphi na ingcamango yokuba, ewe, kulungile, siyayamkela ukuba le yimeko, siza kwenza oku, oku kunye nokunye, okanye abazange bathethe nto?

[00:15:21] UDamian Mercer: Abathethi nto. Akuncedi ngalo lonke ixesha sifumana ukugqunywa kwecango kuziswa ngaphambili. Yazi bekukho iiMPs ezikhe zinengxoxo mpikiswano kwiNdlu yoWiso-mthetho, niyazi apho siye sanika ulwazi kubo kwaye sifika ngoku kunye nabo, kwaye ngequbuliso kuzobakho unyulo jikelele okanye. , uyazi, uRishi Sunak, ubize unyulo jikelele kwiiveki ezimbini emva kwenkcazo-ntetho yam yokugqibela, ethetha malunga nokungaphumeleli kokugqunywa komngxunya kunye nabantu abaninzi ababandakanyeka kulo mthetho we-SSB. Loo maLungu ePalamente ebezimase, ukuba isibini kwisithathu sawo akasekho. Ngoko ke sibuyela kwisikwere kwakhona. Bonke babhalisele ukunciphisa i-carbon footprint. Bonke bahleli apho beyityhala, kodwa abajongi kwiziphumo ezisecaleni kwiingxaki onokuthi ube nazo ngodonga lomgodi. Uyazi, ndandikumboniso kaJeremy wemidiliya emithandathu, iminyaka esixhenxe eyadlulayo, wathi kum, Damian, ishishini lakho alifanelanga libekho. Ngokuchanekileyo.

Ukuba yenziwe ngokuchanekileyo, ifakwe ngokuchanekileyo, igcinwe ngokuchanekileyo kwaye igcinwe ngokuchanekileyo, ishishini lam ngelakho.

[00:16:38] USteve Randall: Ewe, ngokupheleleyo. Kwaye uphawule ubungakanani bomcimbi. Kwaye kwakhona, kunye nohlobo loorhulumente kunye nabenzi bomgaqo-nkqubo, bayathanda ukuthetha ngezinto ezithandekayo. Ke kwabanye abantu, ukuthetha ngayo ukunciphisa i-carbon footprint inomtsalane. Abantu abayikhathaleleyo i indawo, ikhathalele isijikelezi-langa. Olo luhlobo lolwimi abafuna ukuluva. Into abafuni kuyiva ngayo kukugquma eludongeni, kuba ayithandeki kangako. Ke leyo yinxalenye yengxaki ngokunjalo, ukuba ezopolitiko, ngakumbi kwezi ntsuku, zimalunga nokuthetha ngezo zinto ocinga ukuba abavoti bafuna ukuva ngazo kwaye bangathethi malunga neenyaniso ezithile ezingathandekiyo.

[00:17:14] UDamian Mercer: Kwaye ndivumelana nawe ngokupheleleyo malunga, uyazi, xa bethetha ngezinto ezihexayo, uyazi, bayathanda ukubonwa, sinciphisa iindleko zakho zepetroli ngokufaka iipropathi zakho. Eyona nto babonakala ngathi bayayilibala ngabantu ababafakela kubo izindlu, njengabantu abahlwempuzekileyo, abanako ukuzigcina ezo zakhiwo. Ke, uyazi, ukuba bafumana imali encinci eyongezelelweyo epokothweni yabo ngenxa yokuba amatyala abo ekuqaleni ancitshisiwe, baya kuchitha loo nto kwizinto abazidingayo ebebephoswa zizo. Ngaphambili, loo mali iza kuphinda isetyenziswe. Abazukubeka loo mali kwi-akhawunti yebhanki kwaye uhambe oh kwaye iminyaka emihlanu kuya kufuneka siphinde sibonise olo donga. Loo mali ayihambi, ayisebenzi ngolo hlobo kwihlabathi lenene. Kwaye xa ukugcinwa kwepropathi kuqala ukusilela, emva koko uneengxaki zokungeniswa kokungaphumeleli kwe-insulation. Kwaye siyaqala, sifaka le isangqa esingapheliyo sokusukela umsila wakho kwakhona. I-Cavity insulation, xa ingahambi kakuhle, iphosakele kwaye kukho ukuchazwa kweendleko, intsingiselo yeendleko ngokwenene iyodlula imeko yokulondoloza. Ke xa sijonge intlupheko yamafutha okanye masihambe siye kugquma indlu yomntu wonke, ayisiyiyo indlela eya phambili. Ndiyacinga, uyazi, kukho, kufuneka kujongwe ngendlela eyahlukileyo. Kwaye ndithanda zonke izindlu ezikhuselayo kunye nezindlu zokungenisa umoya kuba ukugquma kunye nokungena komoya kufuneka kuhambisane. Kodwa kufuneka ijongwe ngokwesiseko sayo kunye neekhowudi zeposi okanye izitrato. Esinye isiphelo sesitrato sinokuba phezulu kunesinye isiphelo sesitrato sinokuba sentlanjeni. Ke unokuvezwa okuphezulu phezulu kwelinye icala kwaye ukhuselwe kwelinye. Uyayazi xa besithi oh sohamba siyofaka insulate esastrato sikhona. Akusoloko kunjalo. Uyazi, kufuneka ujonge umntu ngamnye. Aba bantu kufuneka babe ngamapolisa. Amanye amasebe karhulumente apho xa ukhusela ipropati, indlu yakho kufuneka ibe notshintsho lwesicwangciso kuloo propati. Ukuba awulwazisi ulawulo lwesakhiwo ukuba ulutshintshile umgangatho wesakhiwo sakho, uchasene nomthetho wolwakhiwo nocwangciso. Kodwa ke abantu ababeza kwazisa ucwangciso lwengingqi igunya ukuba baye batshintsha ilaphu lesakhiwo yaba iinkampani isiqinisekiso. Kwaye ukuba iinkampani zegaranti aziyenzanga loo nto kwiiyure ezingama-24, ngokwenene zenza ulwaphulo-mthetho. Ke isitokhwe sethu sezindlu kufuneka sijongwe kwinto ebesiyenze ngaphambili kwaye sijonge ntoni ngoku. Kwaye ewe, xa sijonga ngoku kungcono kakhulu kuba sizama ukubeka izinto endaweni ebezingekho xa sasiqala ukuba phantsi kwezi zicwangciso zamandla kwiminyaka engama-20 engaqhelekanga eyadlulayo. Kwaye uyazi, sikhona ngokwenene, kukho abaququzeleli be-retrofit, abaqulunqi be-retrofit abajonga kwezo zindlu ngoku. Kodwa sisenazo, asikatshintshi ezinye zeendlela zofakelo kunye nezi ntlobo zeemveliso. Kwaye sinjalo, ndicinga ukuba siphinda sibeka iishelufu ukuze ndicoce kwiminyaka ezayo.

[00:20:53] USteve Randall: Ndiyabulela kuDamien Mercer ovela kwiCavity Extraction. Ungafumana iinkcukacha zendlela yokunxibelelana noDamian kunye neshishini lakhe kumanqaku omboniso kwaye kuko konke kwesi siqendu saMazwi Akhayo. Nceda uthabathe umzuzwana ukwabelana nabanye abanokufumana umdla. Landela okanye ubhalise ukuze ufumane iziqendu zamva nje ngokuzenzekelayo kwizinto ozithandayo podcast app kunye nereyithi kwaye uphonononge ipodcast ukuba unako. Unokumamela isiqendu samva nje ngokuthi Alexa Dlala Ipodcast yaMazwi akhayo.

[00:21:20] UDamian Mercer: Nanga amazwi akhayo. Nasi isiqendu samva nje.

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