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David Picton Interview Transcript

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[00:00:11] UJackie De Burca: Molo apho, lo nguJackie De Burca kwaye umamele. Amazwi Akhayo. Namhlanje sidityaniswe nomntu ohlala apho ukhuseleko, uzinzo kunye nokuhanjiswa kwelizwe lokwenyani kuhlangana khona. Lo nguDavid Picton. UnguSekela Mongameli oPhezulu wezoKhuseleko kunye noZinzo kwi-Eco Online, owayesakuba liGosa eliyiNtloko loKhuseleko kunye noZinzo, UN Umsasazi we-SDG kunye nenkokeli eneendlela ezihamba ukusuka kwizinto zomkhosi ukuya entliziyweni ye indawo eyakhelweyo.

Ngoku kule ncoko nam, uDavid uba luncedo kakhulu. Sithetha ngabasebenzi bodwa, indlela yokukhusela, utshintsho lwenkcubeko olujika ukuthotyelwa lube lukhuseleko kuqala, kwaye yintoni imozulu embi ngoku ethetha ngayo ukwakhiwa iindawo. Sihamba kuyo yonke indawo ukusuka kubushushu, uxinzelelo ukuya kwizivunguvungu. Kwaye uzisa ezinye izifundo ezibalaseleyo kunye nezifundo eziphumeleleyo ezivela kubadlali abakhulu obaziyo. Ngoko ke nokuba ungumakhi, umphathi okanye unempembelelo kwindlela ethile okanye kwindlela umsebenzi owenziwa ngayo kwisiza, le yeyakho. Uza kufunda malunga neentshukumo ezingabizi kakhulu ezinokuthi neefemu ezincinci zithathe amanyathelo namhlanje. La ngamazwi akhayo. David, kuhle ukuba ndincokole nawe kwakhona. Ngaba ungathanda ukuzazisa nge-aud?

[00:01:25] UDavid Picton: Enkosi, Jackie. Ewe. Ngoko ke ndinguDavid Picton. NdinguSekela Mongameli oPhezulu wezoKhuselo kunye noZinzo apha kwi-Eco Online. Bendikunye neqela malunga neminyaka emine enesiqingatha. Siyinkampani yetekhnoloji enesoftware egxile ekukhuseleni abantu kunye neplanethi. Sele kukho malunga neminyaka engama-25 ngoku, ngokujonga ngakumbi kwiindawo ezinje indawo, impilo, ukhuseleko, ulawulo lweekhemikhali kunye nezisombululo zemozulu ezifana nokubalwa kwegesi yegreenhouse, umnatha ingozi yemozulu. Ke ndiye ndasebenza ngokuzinzileyo kule minyaka ili-15 idlulileyo. Ngaphambili bendiliGosa eliyiNtloko lezoKhuseleko kunye noZinzo, ndanewonga lokubonisa kwiZizwe eziManyeneyo ngo-2016 malunga nengxelo yazo. Uphuhliso oluphathekayo iinjongo kwaye ikwazile ukuzuza iMbasa yeKumkanikazi ye Uphuhliso oluphathekayo.

Kwaye ukuba nobulungisa, ndiye ndasebenza kunye namanye amaqabane amakhulu kwishishini kwihlabathi liphela, njengeshishini kwi umphakathi. Kwaye ndandingomnye wabalawuli bebhodi bokuqala besikolo sokubonelela ngeendawo ezakhiweyo.

[00:02:15] UJackie De Burca: Uyamangalisa. Ke ngoko ubunomsebenzi onika umdla kuba, uyazi, phambi kwezi ndima zolawulo usandula ukuzikhankanya, nawe wawusemkhosini. Kwaye ke umsebenzi wakho usukela, uyazi, emkhosini ukuya kwezi ndima zolawulo. Yeyiphi intambo eqhelekileyo ocinga ukuba ingaqhagamshela zonke ezo zigaba zobomi bakho bokusebenza, David?

[00:02:33] UDavid Picton: Ewe, ngumbuzo omkhulu lowo, njengoko usitsho. Kanjalo. Ndisikelelwe kakhulu ngokuba noluhlu olumangalisayo lwamava kunye namathuba njengoko usitsho ukugcina uxolo, imisebenzi yokulwa njengegosa eliphezulu lezothutho emkhosini. Kwaye oko kugqitywe kwiinkampani ezifana ne-Motorola, i-sky tv. Ndiseke owam umcebisi kwaye ndinendima emangalisayo apha kwi-Eco Online kwaye mhlawumbi isibini semisonto eqhelekileyo, ndiyacinga. Ngokwenyani, ndoluliwe kwaye ndacelwa umngeni kwindawo entsha, eyahluke kakhulu rhoqo. Ngoko kuye kwafuneka ndifunde ngokukhawuleza kwaye ndithembele nakwabanye. Uyazi, ngokuthetha kunye nokuphulaphula nokufunda kubuchule babo. Kuye kwafuneka ndiziqhelanise notshintsho kwaye ndiphantse ndazivelela kwakhona kumatyeli aliqela. Ndaphila ngomyalelo wehlabathi omtsha owavela emva kokuphela kweMfazwe ebandayo, ndabona utshintsho olusuka kwiinkqubo ze-analog ukuya kwi-Intanethi kunye nobudala bedijithali obuthatyathwe kwiikhompyuter eziphathwayo ezinamandla ezineenkonzo ezisekelwe kwindawo yendawo.

Olu hlobo lokutshintsha kwenyikima kwindlela esisebenzisa ngayo kwaye sihlalutya ulwazi, ngokwenene. Omnye umsonto oqhelekileyo ngokwenene ubunkokeli, ukunyaniseka. Into eqhelekileyo kakhulu, ngokwenene. Ukusebenza ngokuthe ngqo ukukhokela amaqela okanye ukuzama ukuba yinkokeli yengcinga ngempembelelo, ecacileyo kancinci kwaye inzima ngakumbi.

[00:03:41] UJackie De Burca: Kulungile, kuhle, impendulo eqaqambileyo. Ngoku, yintoni ekukhuthazeleyo, David, ukuba ugxile kakhulu kwikhondo lakho lomsebenzi kwindawo eyakhiweyo kunye necandelo leziseko zophuhliso?

[00:03:51] UDavid Picton: Owu, ewe, kulungile, ndicinga ukuba ngenene lelinye lawona macandelo amadala kunye nelona candelo laziwayo. Kwaye ukuba ucinga njengoluntu nanjengoluntu kudala sakha iwaka leminyaka, kunjalo, uyazi, licandelo elinzima nangona kunjalo. Kodwa ndicinga ukuba kunokuba luncedo kakhulu. Kwaye ndibone izinto ezintsonkothileyo, ezinomdla kwaye ezintle kakhulu ngelo xesha.

Uyazi, ndakhe ndabuzwa umbuzo eqongeni kwangethuba emva kokuchongwa njengegosa eliyintloko lokhuseleko kunye noZinzo. Kwaye intatheli yathi kum, ayisiyonto yokwakha eyonakalisayo indalo? Kodwa eneneni, uyazi, ndifumana rhoqo okwahlukileyo, ngokwenene.

Inokuba lithuba lokudala, ukubumba izakhiwo ezitsha. Kwaye ukuba uyenza ngokufanelekileyo ngendlela oyenza ngayo, ngenene inokwenza ubomi bubengcono kubantu abaninzi. Hayi nje ngendalo oyenzileyo, kodwa indlela eneneni owenze ngayo ngokunjalo. Kodwa ukunyaniseka, enye inxalenye eyona nto ingundoqo malunga nokwakhiwa kwendawo, ndicinga ukuba kum yikhonkco lokubonelela. Uhambo lwam lobuchwephesha lwaqala njengomthengi kunye nomthengisi. Kwaye ulwakhiwo luxhomekeke kakhulu kubudlelwane kulo lonke olu luhlu lomsebenzi kangangokuba ikhonkco lobonelelo belubaluleke ngenene kwaye lisahleli lunomdla kum namhlanje.

[00:04:55] UJackie De Burca: Kulungile, umdla kakhulu. Ngaba uyakhumbula umzuzwana, David, mhlawumbi kwigumbi lebhodi okanye kwisiza kwindawo ethile ukubaluleka yezempilo, ukhuseleko okanye ESG ubethe ekhaya ngokwenene kuwe?

[00:05:07] UDavid Picton: Ewe, ngokwenene. Ndihlala ndithetha oku ngokunjalo, kuba umzuzu endiwuthanda kakhulu kukhuseleko kwakuxa ndandindwendwela enye yeeprojekthi zethu ezinkulu zokudlula iindlela ngenye imini, umsebenzi omkhulu owawuthatha iminyaka, kwaye sasisele siza kuya kwindawo, ngoko ndandiligosa eliyintloko lokhuseleko kwindawo, ngokwenene. Ke sasinayo iPPE yethu kwaye sasilungele ukuhamba. Kodwa kanye xa sasingena, uyazi, isango elibomvu, ukuba uyathanda, ukuba uwele kulo likuse kwindawo ephilayo, umfundi osemncinci obhinqileyo wandimisa wathi, Uxolo, ndicinga ukuba ulibele ukufaka iindondo zakho zokhuseleko. Eyona nto ndandinayo, uyazi, ndandinazo epokothweni yam, kodwa andizange ndizifake kuyo yonke enye into. Ndandineeglavu, isigcina-ntloko, uyazi, iibhutsi kunye nantoni na. Ndiyamthanda ngelo xesha ukuba wayenokuzithemba kunye nemvume, nanjengelungu leqela elincinane, ukuba abize imiba yokhuseleko xa eyibona. Kwaye ndandiyithanda loo nto. Yayinguloo mzuzu apho ukhuseleko lwafika ekhaya kum. Yayimalunga nemvume yokubiza imiba yokhuseleko.

[00:05:58] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, iqaqambile. Kwaye ngokucacileyo ibonisa uhlobo lwenkcubeko eyayilapho ngelo xesha awayeziva evunyelwe, uyazi, ukuba akwazi ukuyenza loo nto.

Abasebenzi ababodwa, uDavid, ngokucacileyo basengozini ngakumbi kwiindawo. Kutheni le nto lo mbandela ubaluleke kangaka namhlanje kwaye uvakalelwa njani ukuba uyavela.

[00:06:14] UDavid Picton: Ewe, umsebenzi uwedwa ngumceli mngeni obalulekileyo kwimeko. Ndiyathetha, ikhula kakhulu. Ummandla siye safikelela kwi-9 yezigidi zabasebenzi mboleko e-UK kuphela, ngokwenene, kwaye loo manani ayenyuka. Phantse ikota yabasebenzi base-UK ngoku. Isenokungabi njalo. Kwaye leyo inokuba yenye yeendawo ezinobungozi kakhulu, kuba abo bantu banokungahoywa. Banokuba bodwa basebenza iiyure ezimbalwa, kodwa ayiyondlela yabo eqhelekileyo, ukuba uyathanda. Ke basenokungasetyenziswa eminye imingeni yokusebenza mboleko, ngokwenene, kodwa izisa uthotho olulodwa lwe izinto ezinobungozi ngenxa yokuba besebenza bodwa, uyazi, ukuba banengxaki, ingozi okanye umngeni, banokungafumani ncedo ngoko nangoko. Kwaye ngakumbi kulwakhiwo, ndiyacinga, kuba ezi zinokuba ziindawo ezinobungozi, zibandakanya izixhobo ezinzima, zihlala zichanabeka kwimozulu, ezinye iinkalo zokhuseleko, uyazi, ngezinto kunye nezixhobo abazisebenzisayo. Kodwa kusenokubakho imiba echuliweyo ngakumbi, njengaye impilo Yengqondo Imiba yokuzahlula nokuba nesithukuthezi, ukuba uyathanda, uyazi, ngakumbi kubantu abafuna ukondla abanye ngokunjalo.

Ke inika ulongamelo lokwenyani kunye nemingeni yolawulo ngokunjalo. Ke umba womsebenzi oyedwa ubalulekile kwaye uya usibaluleka njengoko loo manani enyuka.

[00:07:23] UJackie De Burca: Ke kujongeka njani ukuziqhelanisa okulungileyo ekukhuseleni abo basebenzi, uyazi, ngokwenkcubeko nakwimbono yetekhnoloji?

[00:07:30] UDavid Picton: Ewe, ngokwenene. Ndicinga ukuba inqaku lokuqala akukho bullet yomlingo ngokwenene. Kukho imigangatho emininzi kwindlela yokujongana ngokwenene, ebandakanya ukuhlolwa komngcipheko ngokucokisekileyo, uqeqesho olubanzi, iinkqubo ezisebenzayo zikaxakeka ozivavanyayo kwaye uqinisekisa ukuba ziyasebenza kwaye ziyasebenza. Kodwa eyona nto isembindini wayo yonke le nto kukuseka le nkcubeko yothethathethwano kunye nonxibelelwano olubalulekileyo kuba ufuna olo hlaziyo rhoqo ukubonisa iimeko eziguqukayo kwaye ufumane impendulo njengoko abantu befunda indlela esebenza ngayo. Itekhnoloji ibalulekile, ngaphandle kwamathandabuzo ngayo, ukuqinisekisa ukuba abasebenzi bodwa banezixhobo ezifanelekileyo kunye nenkxaso yokusebenza ngokukhuselekileyo. Oko kunokuba lula njengee-smartphones okanye izixhobo zokusebenza eziphathwayo ezifanayo kunye nesoftware efanelekileyo yokulandelela, ukwenza unxibelelwano, ukugcina unxibelelwano, okanye ukuseta ii-alam zikaxakeka ukuba zifuna njalo. Ndiyathetha, ukuba ujonga into esiyenzayo ngesoftware yabasebenzi be-Eco Online, sigcina abasebenzi abangaphezu kwe-100,000 bekhuselekile kwihlabathi yonke imihla ngolo hlobo lwesoftware. Ke abasebenzi basezindleleni ngokwabo kufuneka babe yinxalenye yoko, kodwa kufuneka bathathe amanyathelo okuxela iingozi ezinokubakho, bathethe phandle, izinto ezibakhathazayo, ukuba uyathanda, kwaye baqinisekise ukuba basebenzisa amanyathelo afanelekileyo okhuseleko.

[00:08:41] UJackie De Burca: Kulungile. Ndiyathetha ngokucacileyo la manani abaluleke kakhulu, ngaphezulu kwe-100,000 kwihlabathi liphela. Ngabaxumi be-Eco Online, ngaba unayo nayiphi na imizekelo enamandla yehlabathi yokwenyani, uyazi, apho ukhuseleko lwabasebenzi-mboleko luthatyathwe kwinqanaba elilandelayo?

[00:08:56] UDavid Picton: Ewe, ngokwenene. Enye ethi qatha engqondweni, ndicinga komnye wabaxumi bethu, uJones, uLang, uLaSalle, JLL. Uyazi, banabasebenzi abamalunga nama-80,000 kwihlabathi liphela kunye nama-200 abasebenzi ababoleka imali e-UK ngakumbi ngoku abo basebenzi be-JLL bangamagcisa ahambahambayo. Benza umsebenzi wokulungisa kwiipropathi ezahlukeneyo, uyazi, izinto ezifana nomsebenzi wophahla, ukutshintsha isihluzo, ukucoca iikhoyili kunye nento onayo. Ngoku ngokuqinisekileyo baye bafumana uqeqesho lokhuseleko lokuwa kunye nezixhobo, imigaqo-nkqubo ebanzi yezempilo nokhuseleko, kodwa bahlala besebenza bodwa kwiindawo eziphakamileyo kwaye baye benza isigaba sovavanyo emva koko bamkela iteknoloji yethu yomsebenzi oyedwa.

Umzekelo, bangabhala ukufika kwabo kunye nokuhamba ngokukhuselekileyo kutyelelo lwangaphandle ngalunye abalwenzayo ngokucofa iqhosha. Emva koko abaphathi bafumana isilumkiso. Ukuba ilungu leqela alikhangeli ngokukhuselekileyo okanye linengozi, abaphathi banokulifumana kwaye bafumane uncedo kwaye kukho uhlobo lomntu oluphaphileyo ukuba uyathanda. Ukuba umqeshwa akahambanga ixesha elithile, inkqubo iya kuvelisa isilumkiso esingashukumiyo. Injalo ke, iyasebenza kwaye iyasebenza, ukuba uyayibona into endiyithethayo.

[00:10:00] UJackie De Burca: Kulungile, oko kuvakala kuhle. Emuva ngemini bendisenza iividiyo zempilo nokhuseleko kumashumi ambalwa eminyaka eyadlulayo kwaye uyazi, yiyo loo nto iqhubela phambili ukuya kwinqanaba elinjalo ngoku.

[00:10:14] UDavid Picton: Kakhulu, yahluke kakhulu xa ndandiqala.

[00:10:16] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, ngokupheleleyo. Ndicinga ukuba mna nawe siluhlobo olunye lohlobo xa uthetha nge-analog nayo yonke loo nto. Ndivumelana ngokupheleleyo nazo zonke ezo zinto. Imo iyatshintsha, uDavis. Sele iphazamisa ulwakhiwo ngazo zonke iindlela. Amaza obushushu, izaqhwithi, izikhukula. Yintoni oyibonayo njengomngcipheko omkhulu wokhuseleko lwesiza kunye nokuhanjiswa?

[00:10:36] UDavid Picton: Ewe, kanye. Njengoko usitsho, kufana nokubhaka kwikhosi yesihloko sezinto ezibonwayo. Uyazi, zibhencekile. Uyazi, bachanabeke kuloo mozulu imbi. Kwaye ngakumbi yingxaki kwezinye iindawo zehlabathi. Besisoloko siyibona loo nto, kodwa iya isanda ngoku ichaphazela i-UK kunye Ayalend kunye nemimandla yaseYurophu ngoku ngokunjalo, apho abasebenzi besiza bachanabeke kwimozulu. Ezinye zezaqhwithi esizibonileyo zisiza, uyazi, imimoya enamandla, imvula enkulu. Oko kunokuba ngumcimbi wokwenyani kunye nezixhobo ezonakalisiweyo okanye i-scaffolding, ukuba uyathanda, ukuza ngaphandle okanye nje. Imvula nje, eneneni, enokudala ngokucacileyo amanzi ezikhukula. Inongcoliseka ngokubaleka okanye ukongeza nje kumngcipheko wokutyibilika, iihambo kunye nokuwa ngodaka. Ayithathi nto ingako kwezinye zezi sayithi ukuba ziguqulwe zibe ngumgxobhozo waseGlastonbury, onokuba ngumngeni wokwenyani. Kodwa ubushushu obugqithisileyo ngomnye wemiba eqala ukunyuka ngoku kwihlabathi jikelele. Kukho into efana ne-70% yabasebenzi ekucingelwa ukuba bavezwe kuxinzelelo lobushushu kwinqanaba elithile apha enyakeni. Kwaye ukuba ujonga nje e-UK kuphela, i-Arhente yoKhuseleko lwezeMpilo yase-UK, abantu abangama-2,295 ababhubhileyo abanxulunyaniswa namaxesha obushushu ehlotyeni lika-2023. Ngenxa yoko, le yingxaki yomsebenzi womzimba. Kwiimeko ezishushu, rhoqo kunokubakho ukungabikho komthunzi, kunzima ukufumana i-hydration efanelekileyo. Kwaye ukuba abantu abayiqhelanga le, kunjalo kukho isuntswana yokunqongophala acclimatization ngokunjalo. Ke banokutyhala bengakhange baqonde ukuba bafudumeza kangakanani na, ukuba uyathanda, okanye. Kwaye oku kubi, kwaye kuyandikhathaza kancinci, banokuziva ngathi abanakuthetha ngayo kwaye baphakamise ezo nkxalabo. Uyazi, banokuziva ngathi abanakukwazi ukuthetha ngayo kuba mhlawumbi kukho ulindelo abanokuthi batyhalele kulo okanye kukho uxinzelelo, ukuba uyathanda, ekwenzeni umsebenzi wenziwe. Kodwa kwelinye icala le-spectrum, kunokubanda kakhulu. Uyazi, ngokukhawuleza kunokutshintsha. Kwaye sikubonile oku, le mimandla yemozulu embi kakhulu ivuthuza, izisa umoya ovela eSiberia kunye nokupholisa ngokukhawuleza izinto ezibuyela emva kwiminyaka embalwa, irhamncwa elivela empuma, umzekelo, ukubuyela kwi-2018, ndiyacinga. Ke oku kunokubangela i-hypothermia, i-frostbite ngokunjalo. Ngoko ke nakweyiphi na isiphelo se-spectrum ingaba yingxaki. Sikwanalo neqonga lobunkokheli bengcinga apha kwi-Eco Online esiyibiza ngokuba liGumbi leeMeko. Kwaye isihloko sethu kule nyanga sithi umgangatho womoya. Ngoko iyamangalisa indlela utshintsho lwemozulu olunokuchaphazela ngayo ngco liseko amanqanaba nawo. Iindawo ezininzi ezahlukeneyo apho utshintsho lwemozulu lunokuthi luphazamise ukwakhiwa.

[00:12:56] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, ndiyathetha, umgangatho womoya nje wodwa sisihloko esikhulu, akunjalo? Kuhle ukuba unayo loo nto. Olo hlobo lwemeko-bume oyiphandayo kule nyanga ngokwembono yakho. UDavid, ngokucacileyo ezinye zeenkampani esinokuthetha ngazo, ezifana neCostain okanye iqela le-EPS, bahamba njani ngaphambi kwezi zoyikiso?

[00:13:13] UDavid Picton: Ewe, ngokwenene. Masenze nje uCostain kuqala. Ngokukodwa, ndicinga ukuba, eneneni banamawaka amathathu anesiqingatha abantu kulo lonke elase-UK lamandla, amanzi, ezothutho kunye necandelo lezokhuselo, ngoko ke amanye amacandelo anzima kakhulu abawasebenzelayo. Basebenze nathi malunga neshumi leminyaka ngoku kwaye beqonda amandla okubonakala kwedatha kwaye ukubonakala kwedatha ngenene yindlela abancedisa ngayo ukulawula impilo, ukhuseleko kunye nesiqinisekiso sokusingqongileyo. Baqale ngenkqubo yokunika ingxelo ngesehlo kunye nokwenzakala, kodwa baye bayandisa oko ukuze baquke ulwazi olongezelelweyo olusuka kulawulo lwenkunkuma, ukujolisa kumngcipheko wekhontrakthi kunye namathala eencwadi asemngciphekweni ngokunjalo. Kwaye into eyenziwa ngokukodwa kukukhuthaza ukunika ingxelo. Kwiinyanga ezintandathu zokuqala besebenza kunye neNkqubo, bachonge izenzo ezingama-790 kwaye oko yayikukunyuka kwe-140% kwixesha elifanayo elidlulileyo. Ngoku, into esiyibonileyo ngamava abonisa ngokucacileyo ukuba xa unyusa ingxelo, kwaye loo nto inxulumene ngokuthe ngqo nokuphucula imigangatho yokhuseleko kunye nokucutha iingozi. Ke oko kusentliziyweni yokusebenzisa loo datha ukuya, ukuba uyathanda, uhlobo oluqikelelwayo lwendawo.

Ukuba sitshintshela kwiqela le-EPS, bagxile kwicandelo lamanzi lehlabathi kwaye bagxile ngakumbi kwimiba yabasebenzi bemali-mboleko, esithe sayichukumisa. Kanjalo. Ewe kunjalo, loo nto imalunga nekota yabasebenzi babo ngoku bagxile emanzini, ukuba basebenza bodwa kwiindawo ezahlukeneyo, ngakumbi ngemingcipheko yokusingqongileyo efana nokusebenza kufutshane namanzi anzulu kunye noomatshini abazenzekelayo ngokunjalo. Kwaye bebesebenzisa iiseshini ezibekelwe ixesha, uyazi, ke ixesha bekufanele ukuba babekwisiza kwaye baqinisekise ukuba kukho izilumkiso ezithunyelweyo ukuba, ukuba oko kugqithile. Kwaye kunikwe ubume bendawo abasebenza kuyo kunye nokusebenzisa imowudi yomqondiso ophantsi kwi-app ukuqinisekisa ukuba basenokufumana eminye imiyalezo okanye bafumane izilumkiso xa kufuneka.

[00:14:55] UJackie De Burca: Ngokuqinisekileyo, ewe, iyavakala, iyavakala. Ke ewe, intsonkothile kodwa uyazi, umsebenzi obaluleke kangako i-Eco Online ekwazi ukuwenzela abathengi bakho. Kuthekani ngeefemu ezincinci kunye neziphakathi, zikwazi njani ukuzilungiselela ngokwenyani, uyazi, ukuthandwa kwemozulu embi ngaphandle kohlahlo lwabiwo-mali olukhulu abanalo abadlali abakhulu?

[00:15:15] UDavid Picton: Ewe, injalo. Ngokwenyani senza umsebenzi omninzi kunye neefemu zentengiso ephakathi, uyazi, kunye neefemu ezincinci ngokunjalo, ngakumbi njengoko usitsho, ngenxa yokubaluleka koko.

Kwaye ndicinga ingcebiso, ndicinga ukuba ngaphandle kolu hlahlo lwabiwo-mali lukhulu, njengoko usitsho, ndicinga ukuba kubalulekile ukugxila kumanyathelo asebenzayo asebenzayo, phantse ukubeka phambili apho unokuba neempembelelo ezilungileyo kakhulu. Kum, oko kuhlala kuqala ngovavanyo lomngcipheko ukuchonga eyona miba ibalulekileyo yeshishini apho ezo ngozi ziphezulu, ukuba uyathanda, kulapho uneempembelelo ezikhawulezayo nezingcono kwaye ugxile kwimizamo yakho yokukhusela apho. Kubalulekile ukuba nesicwangciso sokuqhubekeka kweshishini ngokunjalo, uchaza iinkqubo ukuba uyathanda iimeko ezahlukeneyo zemozulu ezinzima ezinokubandakanya izinto ezilula njengonxibelelwano, uyazi, siza kuhlala njani sinxibelelana, siqeqeshelwa ukuqinisekisa ukuba abantu banazo izakhono ezinokugubungela abanye abantu ukuba abafumaneki kwaye abakwazi kungena. Kwaye sijonge nabanye ababoneleli. Ke kukho iindlela ezahlukeneyo zokufumana imathiriyeli okanye iinkonzo ukuba kukho ukuphazamiseka kwikhonkco lonikezelo. Ke ngenene ndicinga nokuba ngaphandle kolu hlahlo lwabiwo-mali lukhulu, ngokwenene kuyenzeka ukuba ugxile kuyo nantoni na eya kwandisa ukomelela kunye nokulungela. Isenokuba sisixhobo esisisiseko esinje ngejenereyitha ukuba uyathanda, ukuqinisekisa ukuba unamandla asisiseko, uyazi, ukuba kukho ukunqunyulwa kwamandla njalo njalo. Kodwa ngokusisiseko ukuzibandakanya namaqela omsebenzi ngempendulo yawo nawo, uyazi, iyamangalisa indlela abasebenzi abayaziyo kwaye banokuba nefuthe ngayo ukuba, ukuba uyababandakanya ekuqulunqeni ezo zisombululo ngaphandle, uyazi, uhlahlo lwabiwo-mali olukhulu.

[00:16:41] UJackie De Burca: Impendulo enkulu. Kwaye ndicinga nje ukubuyela kwiziqendu zethu xa sigxile, uyazi, eyona ndawo yakho ibalulekileyo, yinto enye. Abo basebenzi baphuma kwezo ndawo ngalo lonke ixesha, ke bayaqaphela, banolwazi kwaye uyazi, ukuba banokubuyela kubaphathi, oko kuyavakala ngakumbi.

[00:16:59] UDavid Picton: Iyenzeka. Kwaye uqhele ukufumana izisombululo zilungile ngakumbi, zininzi kakhulu, uyazi, zifakwe kwaye zihlanganisiwe ukuba uyathanda. Ukuba abantu kufuneka bawasebenzise baziva befumene ithuba lokuwabumba.

[00:17:09] UJackie De Burca: Ngokuqinisekileyo, ewe. Yenza, yenza ingqiqo epheleleyo. Ngoku kukho ulwazi olukhulayo malunga nokuthandwa kweekhemikhali kunye nemingcipheko yokusingqongileyo nakwiindawo zokwakha. Uziva njani, David, ukuba zezinye zeengozi ezingaphaya kwamandla kule ndawo?

[00:17:22] UDavid Picton: Ewe, ewe. Umsebenzi wokwakha ndicinga ukuba mhlawumbi uye wafumana iingozi ezingaphezulu phantse kulo naluphi na olunye uhlobo lomsebenzi. Ndiyacinga, uyazi, ezolimo kunye nemveliso zinemiceli mngeni ngokwenene, kodwa umsebenzi wokwakha, uyazi, ngumceli mngeni kodwa, kodwa wenziwe ngokukhuselekileyo, uyazi, ezi zinokulawulwa, kodwa zifuna eli nqanaba liphezulu lokuhoya kunye nokubandakanyeka okusebenzayo kunamacandelo amaninzi. Kwaye njengoko ndicinga ukuba benditshilo ngaphambili, lo mbono wovavanyo oluqhelekileyo lomngcipheko ukubonisa loo mandla aguqukayo njengoko izinto zitshintsha. Ke ndicinga ukuba ezinye zezona ndawo zingahoywayo kunye neengozi ziya kuba ziikhemikhali ngokwenene, ukusuka kulwelo oludlekayo ukuya kwizinyibilikisi, iipeyinti, amagwebu, iiglues, uyazi, kukho, kukho uluhlu oluphantse lungapheli lwemiba enokubakho onokuba nayo ngezo zinto. Kubalulekile ukuba ezi zifumane olo vavanyo lufanelekileyo lomngcipheko, awona maxwebhu edatha yokhuseleko ahlaziyiweyo ukubonisa naluphi na utshintsho. Banengcebiso malunga nendlela yokuphatha ngokukhuselekileyo, uqeqesho lokuzisebenzisa, izixhobo ngokunjalo, ewe, kwaye kubaluleke kakhulu ukuba banogcino olufanelekileyo. Uyazi, leyo yindawo apho iikona ngamanye amaxesha zinokusikwa. Kodwa ukugcina kubalulekile, ngokuqinisekileyo, ukuqinisekisa ukuba ezi zinto zilawulwa. Uqeqesho noqeqesho kwakhona lubalulekile. Ke oko ukuqhelana nokuzisebenzisa, kulungile, kodwa ukuqhelana akujiki kube kukunganeliseki okanye okunokubakho nokungaziphathi kakuhle. Ndake ndeva ngokufakwa kwento enyibilikayo kwikomityi yokusela kuba yayiluncedo. Kodwa ngokuqinisekileyo indebe yokusela kwindawo, ngenxa yokulunga.

Kulula kakhulu ukwenza iimpazamo zobudenge okanye ukungakhathali ngokungenankathalo ngamaxesha athile. Kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo imozulu embi inokwenza ezi zinto zibe yingozi ngakumbi. Uyazi, ngobushushu, ewe, ukuguqula ezinye zeekhompawundi, ezinokuguquguquka kakhulu, zibe ngumphunga, onokugqabhuka ngokwenene okanye imvula, njengoko ndicinga ukuba benditshilo ngaphambili ngongcoliseko lwamanzi aphantsi komhlaba. Kodwa ezinye iingozi ezingahoywayo, ukuba uyathanda, zidlulela ngaphaya kweekhemikhali kwaye zibandakanya uthuli kunye namasuntswana omoya. Uninzi lwethu, ndicinga ukuba, sivile malunga ne-asbestos kwaye yaziwa kakuhle ngoku kule minyaka. Kodwa uthuli lwe-silica luncinci kwaye lukhokelela ngokuthe ngqo kwi-silicosis eyingozi kakhulu. Kwaye sibuyele kwinto ebesiyithetha malunga nomgangatho womoya. Sifuna izihluzi ezisebenzayo, iimaski kwaye kwakhona, amaphepha edatha afanelekileyo kunye novavanyo lomngcipheko kwimisebenzi enjalo.

Kwaye unayo Ilifa izixhobo, ngakumbi kwiindawo esizenzayo Yenza kwakhona umsebenzi kunye nokunye oko kunokuhamba ngaphaya kwe-asbestos Izinto ezifana neepeyinti ezikhokelayo okanye umhlaba ongcolileyo. Kodwa uyazi, into engahoywayo ngokukodwa, ndicinga ukuba kuzo zonke ezi meko azikho kakhulu iingozi zangoku, onokuthi ube lula ukuzibona, kodwa ixesha elide elingenabuqhetseba kunye neziphumo ezongezelekayo ekuhambeni kwexesha lokuvezwa. Ngoku loo nto ayicacanga kangako njengokuwa okanye ukudibana noomatshini, kodwa kuyingozi nangona kunjalo kwaye kunokuba yingozi kakhulu ukuba ayikhuselwanga ngokufanelekileyo kwaye ilawulwe.

[00:19:57] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, kubaluleke kakhulu oko. Ngokuqinisekileyo, zonke iintlobo zezinto ezimanyumnyezi zinokwenzeka ukusuka ekuvezweni kwexesha. Ngoku, amaqonga afana ne-Eco Online Davis, uziva njani ukuba, uyazi, ukuxhasa ulawulo olungcono kunye nokubonakala, ngakumbi malunga nezi zinto ziyingozi, ziyingozi. Izinto eziphathekayo.

[00:20:15] UDavid Picton: Ndicinga ukuba siza kuqala phi kwaye eyona nto ibalulekileyo lulwazi olunxulunyaniswa naloo maqonga. Uyazi, kwaye maninzi amaqonga phaya, uyazi, luninzi uncedo kunye nenkxaso enokufunyanwa ngulwakhiwo, ngenene. Kodwa loo maqonga, olo lwazi lusebenza ngokwenene kwidatha yokhuseleko, amaxwebhu, ezinye iindlela ezikhuselekileyo, iikhowudi ze-QR, uyazi, ukufikelela ngokulula. Yenzelwe ukuba kube lula ukuyisebenzisa. Kwaye loo mbono kukuxhasa uvavanyo lomngcipheko kunye nenkcubeko yokuqala yokhuseleko, emalunga nokunceda abantu ukuba bathathe uxanduva loqwalaselo, ukunika ingxelo kunye nezenzo. Kakade ke, akukho nanye kwinkqubo eya kubenzela loo nto. Imalunga nabo banenkqubo abanokuthi bayisebenzise kwaye bathathe uxanduva lomntu ngamnye.

Kodwa ndicinga ukuba ifika entliziyweni yoqeqesho kunye nokufunda ngokunjalo. Kwaye lolo qeqesho lokuqala, uyazi, njengokuba wena ukhwele abantu ubazisa kumbutho, kodwa ke olo qeqesho luqhubekayo lokuhlaziya kwakhona, kwaye hayi nje kubasebenzi abaqeshwe ngokuthe ngqo, kuba kubaluleke kakhulu ukuba uqeqesho kunye nokwazisa lukhona kwiikontraka kunye neendwendwe nazo, ewe.

[00:21:13] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, ewe, ngokupheleleyo.

. Ngoko uhamba uhambo lokukhula, uhambo lokukhula kwedatha, ukuba uyathanda, ukudibanisa idatha kunye neepateni kunye neendlela kunye nohlalutyo olunzulu lokuyidibanisa nezinye iinkqubo kunye nemithombo yedatha.

[00:21:36] UJackie De Burca: Ngokwembono yakho, ngaba bekukho naluphi na uhlobo olufana nezenzo ezibalaseleyo okanye izinto ezintsha, uyazi, uziva uphuculwe ngokwenene ulawulo lomngcipheko?

[00:21:45] UDavid Picton: Ewe, sichukumise kwi-JLL ngaphambili. Ngoko ndicinga ukuba ndithatha i-NG Bailey ngoku kule meko, ububanzi bamacandelo abakhonzayo, bajonge amandla enyukliya, ukuvelisa, imfundo, ukunakekelwa kwezempilo, ukuthutha, ezemidlalo, ukuthengisa. Uyazi, kulungile, lihle kakhulu lonke icandelo onokuthi ucinge nyani. Kwaye eyona nto ibalulekileyo kum, ndicinga ukuba inkqubo yokuma yenkqubo apho yinkqubo yabo yokhuseleko kuqala nokuphambili. Baye banale nkqubo malunga neminyaka eyi-18 ngoku, bebeka oko njengomgaqo ongundoqo wendlela abawenza ngayo umsebenzi wabo. Kwaye baxhasa oko kunye nokunye okudityanisiweyo impilo yendalo kunye nesoftware yokhuseleko evela kuthi ebavumela ukuba baqhagamshelane, banxibelelane nabo, kwaye ke baxhobise abaphathi bamacandelo abo. Ke batyhala amandla okwenza kwaye bathathe izigqibo ukuya kutsho kwinqanaba lolawulo lomgca. Ngoku, yonke loo nto idityaniswe kwindawo enye, kwaye uyabona ukuba oko kuye kwaqatshelwa njengempembelelo. Ke iimpembelelo ezintle ebenazo ngenxa yokuba bafumene into efana ne-17 elandelelanayo yeRoss ngebhaso leGolide ngalinye. Baye bafumana iimbasa zegolide kunye neeodolo ezine zomahluko. Ke xa ujonga into eyenziwa nguNG Bailey apho, unokubona ukuba baxhobisa abantu. Bazisa olo lwazi kunye, befumana ezo mbono, ngokwenene, kodwa ngakumbi baqwalaselwe iimpembelelo abanazo nabo.

[00:22:55] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, oko kuyamangalisa ngokupheleleyo kuba, uyazi, iba yimpumelelo, hayi nje into ekufuneka yenziwe ukugcina, uyazi, gcina abantu bekhuselekile, njl. Uyichaza njani wena kwaye uyakha njani?

[00:23:13] UDavid Picton: Ewe, kum, kusembindini wolawulo olusebenzayo lokhuseleko. Ndicinga ukuba ungabumba kwaye uyile iinkqubo ezifanelekileyo, imigaqo-nkqubo, kunye neenkqubo, kodwa baya kusokola ukugcina abantu bekhuselekile, ndiyacinga ukuba, ukuba abantu ekufuneka bazisebenzise abaqeqeshwanga ngokufanelekileyo, bazibandakanye, kwaye bazibandakanye ekuziseni ubomi. Ke kum, ndiyichaza njengokuziphatha, ulwimi, izenzo oza kuzibona yonke imihla kwiindawo kunye neendawo zeprojekthi, kodwa nakwiiofisi zaloo mbutho. Okubaluleke kakhulu, inkcubeko yokhuseleko ikhona kubo bonke abantu kuwo onke amanqanaba. Kwaye ubuya kuyakha ngokuva iinkokeli zithetha ngayo rhoqo, ukuvula yonke intlanganiso kunye nomzuzu wokhuseleko, umzekelo, uyazi, kwaye ubuza malunga nokhuseleko yonke imihla. Ungayakha ngokubona abasebenzi besebenzisana nomngcipheko wokunika ingxelo ngeenkqubo ezinje ngoSuku lokuhamba ngendlela elula ungahambi ngaloo nto, uyazi, yixele, wenze okuthile ngayo, uthethe okuthile ngayo. Kwaye kuya kuba bukhoma ngokunjalo. Oku. Le ngqiqo iguqukayo yokuba bekungekho msebenzi ungxamisekileyo kangangokuba awunakuthatha ixesha lokuwenza ngokukhuselekileyo. Kwaye elo binzana ndihlala ndilikhumbula. Naxa ndisenza iDIY ekhaya. Ndiyazibamba, ndiyacinga, ndibeke iindondo zakho kuba, uyazi, akukho nto ingxamisekileyo.

[00:24:21] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, hayi, intle kakhulu. Lilizwi elimnandi kwaye liyavakala kwaye linika umdla ukuva umntu onjalo ingcali njengawe uzibambele kwimeko ye-DIY. Kuba ngoko si. Sinako ukuyiyeka imiqobo yethu, akunjalo? Kuba asikho kwimodi yomsebenzi.

[00:24:34] UDavid Picton: Senza njalo. Kwaye, uyazi, enye yeencoko zam endandizithandayo yayikukuba ndandiligosa eliyintloko lokhuseleko, ndandikunye nomnye wabalawuli bethu abalawulayo kwaye sasiphanda ngesehlo, ingozi apho umntu wonzakeleyo wonzakele. Kwaye, uyazi, wathetha into kum, ethe yahlala kum ngonaphakade, ngokwenene. Uthe, sibeka zonke ezi nzame, ixesha kunye nobutyebi ekuphandeni izehlo xa sele zenzekile, kodwa ndifuna ukubeka elo nqanaba loxinzelelo kunye neenzame phambi kokuba zenzeke ukuze ndiqinisekise ukuba azenzi.

[00:24:58] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, yiyo ngokupheleleyo.

Ukubuyela kwizithintelo, zeziphi ezona zithintelo ezinkulu, uDavide, ozibonileyo, uyazi, xa uzama ukutshintshela kuhlobo lokuthotyelwa kwengqondo ukuya kwindawo yokuqala yokhuseleko?

[00:25:10] UDavid Picton: Ewe, ndicinga ukuba omnye weyona miqobo mikhulu, ndiyacinga, kukubona ixabiso lokuya ngaphaya koluhlu lokutshekisha nokwenza nje ubuncinci. Ke oku kukuqonda ukuba ukuqhubela phambili kwingqondo yokuqala yokhuseleko kunokuba yinzuzo yokhuphiswano ekugqibeleni, ngokwemigaqo, uyazi, indlela owenza ngayo ishishini lakho. Ngoko ke ayingomthwalo, yinzuzo enokubakho yorhwebo, eneneni, ukuba uyifumene kakuhle. Kwaye sijonga ngasemva kolunye uphando esilwenzile mva nje, sivile iinkokeli zithetha ngemingeni yazo ethile, izinto ezifana nokwamkelwa kobuchwephesha babasebenzi. Ke ukuba wena, ukuba uzisa itekhnoloji ethile kubasebenzi, kubaluleke kakhulu ukubabandakanya ekubumbeni oko. ukuqaliswa zisuka nje, ngoko bavakalelwa kukuba kwenziwa kubo kunokuba kwenziwe kubo. Baneendawo ezithile kunye neenkxalabo ezinjengezikhewu kunye ne-silos phakathi kweeyunithi zeshishini, uyazi, ngoko ke umceli mngeni, ukuba uyathanda, wokudibanisa olo lwazi kuzo zonke ezo yunithi zeshishini kunye nokufunda komnye nomnye kunye nokwabelana, kwaye ndicinga ukuba kum ukusuka kuloo ngcinga yokuthobela ukuya kwindawo yokuqala yokhuseleko, kukho ukuqondwa ukuba kufuneka uhlale kuyo ngokuqhubekayo, ngokuphindaphindiweyo, ngokuqhubekayo, ngokuqhubekayo, ngokuqhubekayo, ngokuqhubekayo, ngokuphindaphindiweyo, ngokuphindaphindiweyo, ngokuphindaphindiweyo. intonga. Ayisosisombululo esikhawulezileyo esinokuthi siphumelele ngobusuku nje emva koko silibale ngayo.

[00:26:19] UJackie De Burca: Hayi, ngokuqinisekileyo akunjalo. Kwaye njengoko ubutshilo ngaphambili, David, yinto engafanelekanga kuphela ukuba ilungile kuwo wonke umbutho ukusuka kwiofisi ukuya kwindawo, ukusuka, uyazi, isiqalo esitsha ukuya kulawulo oluphezulu, kufuneka iphindwe, akunjalo, ixesha kunye nexesha kwakhona, okubaluleke kakhulu. Ngoku, ndiyazi ukuba unike isibini owaziyo, imizekelo enomdla yabanye abathengi bakho. Ngaba kukho naziphi na ezithi qatha engqondweni xa usithi, kulungile, ngoku sinenkcubeko enkulu yokhuseleko esebenzayo?

[00:26:46] UDavid Picton: Ewe, ngokwenene. Kukho ezimbini ezindikhumbuza ngokwenene. Kwakukho inkqubo esasiyiqhuba sibuyela emva kwiminyaka embalwa ebizwa ngokuba yiOne Right Choice.

Kwaye imbono yeenkokeli bezisoloko zigxininisa ukuba kukho ukhetho olunye oluchanekileyo kwaye yayilukhetho olukhuselekileyo kunye nokunika abantu imvume yokucela umngeni ngendlela eyakhayo. Kwafuneka ukwenze ngembeko kunye neengcebiso ezakhayo. Kodwa nantoni na eyayingaziva ilungile, abantu babeziva benemvume yokucela umngeni. Ngoku kumbutho owahluke kancinane ngokunjalo, leyo yayiyeyahlukileyo. Enye into endiyibonileyo, saba nenkomfa yobunkokeli kwiveki enye ehotele njengoko imibutho isenza. Kodwa into ebesiyenzile ibikukuseta nje ngaphandle kweengcango zokungena apho bonke abathunywa bebeza kungena khona. Ke njengoko babengena egumbini, olu cwangciso ibingumdlali weqonga, ukuba uyathanda, akwaziwa ngabathunywa. Sabhatala saza sammisela ukuba abonakale esebenza ngokungakhuselekanga kwintwana yesondlo sehotele. Eyona nto yayinika umdla zizinto ezimbini. Okokuqala, bangaphi abantu abasandula ukudlula, uyazi, kwaye bavumele lo mlinganiswa ukuba aqhubeke esebenza, uyazi, kuba mhlawumbi khange baqaphele okanye baziva ngathi banokucela umngeni. Kodwa eyona nto yayibaluleke kakhulu yayikukuba yayingabantu ababenesibindi. Nangona, uyazi, wayengumsebenzi wasehotele ngokubonakalayo kwaye akukho nto yakwenza nabo ebusweni bayo, basenaso isibindi sokumcela umngeni kwaye baqinise ingongoma yokuba ngokwenene luxanduva lwethu lonke ukujongana nemikhwa engakhuselekanga naphi na apho sibona khona, okoko nje sikwenza, uyazi, ngendlela efanelekileyo.

[00:28:09] UJackie De Burca: Ngoku, ubuyela kubathengi bakho, uDavis, ukuthanda, uyazi, siye sathetha nge-jll, ng, Bailey, EPS Group kunye neCostain, yeyiphi imixholo ethi qatha engqondweni yakho xa, uyazi, umzekelo, impilo kunye nokhuseleko lwenziwa kakuhle ngokuthandwa kwabo bathengi?

[00:28:23] UDavid Picton: Ewe, yingongoma enkulu eneneni, kuba kukho ukuqondwa. Ndicinga ukuba omnye wemixholo ephambili kum kukho ukugqithelana okukhulu kwedatha kunye nokuqonda kwindawo nganye kwezi ukusuka kwezempilo, ukhuseleko, okusingqongileyo, iESG ngokunjalo. Kwaye xa ugqitha loo datha kwaye uqhagamshele kwaye uyidibanise kunye, unokuzoba iintsingiselo ezixabisekileyo kunye nohlalutyo kunye nezenzo ezisuka kuloo nto ngokunjalo. Kwaye xa uyifumene kakuhle, ungasuka kuthotyelo olusisiseko, ukuba uyathanda, uvelisa ezo ngcinga ukuya kwimigodi yedatha eqolileyo kunye nokusetyenziswa kwedatha. Kodwa ungaqhubela phambili ukuya kuqikelelo ukuba uyathanda. Ke ukusebenzisa loo datha ukuqikelela imiba ngaphambi kokuba yenzeke ngokunjalo, ukudibanisa idatha kuzo zonke ezo ntlobo zeendawo. Ndicinga ukuba omnye umxholo osoloko uza kum. Ngokuqinisekileyo. Ngaba abantu basentliziyweni yokwenza ezo zinto kakuhle, ukuzibandakanya kunye nokuzibandakanya ekufakeni izisombululo zetekhnoloji kwimisebenzi yemihla ngemihla, kodwa ukufunda kubo kunye nokunika imvume yokondla kunye nokubuza kunye nokuphuhlisa ngokunjalo. Kwaye akukho mathandabuzo konke konke. Ndicinga ukuba siyibonile sonke. Kodwa kuyinyani ukuba udinga oko kuzibophelela ukusuka phezulu ukuya kutsho kumanqanaba obunkokeli ukudibanisa oku kulindelekileyo kwindlela izinto ezenziwa ngayo imini, imini, nokuba amaxesha anzima. Kwaye masinyaniseke, uyazi, icandelo lokwakha liphantsi koxinzelelo lweendleko ngalo lonke ixesha. Iphantsi koxinzelelo lwexesha ngokunjalo. Kuphantsi koxinzelelo olulindelekileyo. Ke naxa amaxesha esiba nzima, kwaye kulapho okona kubaluleke kakhulu kuzo zonke, ukhuseleko lusaza kuqala.

[00:29:45] UJackie De Burca: Ewe. Ndiyathetha ukuba, ngokucacileyo sikwixesha elinzima kakhulu, uyazi, ngokwemibono emininzi, ngakumbi ishishini lokwakha. Ke, ewe, oko kuyadibanisa, uyazi, umaleko wonke wobunzima. Akunjalo. Ewe. Ke isifundo esinye okanye ezibini, David, ocinga ukuba zonke iinkokeli zokwakha kufuneka ziva.

[00:30:05] UDavid Picton: Ewe, uyazi, Jackie, enye yeyona nto ndiyithandayo, ngokwenene. Ndicinga ukuba isifundo esinye okanye ezibini ziya kuba kukuba i-inki ayisoze yome.

Uyazi, naxa izisombululo zetekhnoloji sele zikhutshiwe okanye iinkqubo zibekiwe, kuya kufuneka ugcine izinto ziphantsi kophononongo rhoqo, uzindwendwele kwakhona, uhlaziye uvavanyo lomngcipheko, ufunde njengoko inkqubo ikhula ngokunjalo. Ngoko ke loo inki ayisoze yome. Kwaye kum, oko kuyinyaniso ngokulinganayo kukhuseleko njengoko kunjalo kulondolozo. Kuhlala kukho into engaphezulu onokuyenza, uyazi, ayikaze yenziwe. Kwaye ukuba nobulungisa, akukho xolo ngokuphinda loo myalezo. Ndicinga ukwakha ezi nkcubeko zokhuseleko kunye nokuphunyezwa kobuchwephesha ngokubandakanya abantu, uyazi, kwaye ubazise kunye nawe, kwaye njengoko undivile ndithetha, ukubanika imvume yokucela umngeni kwizinto ngendlela efanelekileyo abacinga ukuba ayilungile.

[00:30:45] UJackie De Burca: Ugqibelele. Ewe. Ndiyathetha, ndiyacinga kwakhona, kubalulekile ukuphinda oko amaxesha amaninzi njengoko uthanda. Kwaye ndiyalithanda ibinzana elithi i-inki ayisoze yome, uyazi, Ngokuqinisekileyo. Iyavakala kwaye iyamangalisa ngokwenene. Ukuba inkampani yokwakha ifuna ukwenza inkqubela kumbandela nje omnye kwezi, uDavid, ifanele iqale phi?

[00:31:02] UDavid Picton: Ndicinga ukuba ndiza kuqala ngesiphelo engqondweni.

Ke ukuba baza kwenza inkqubela kule miba, yintoni abafuna ukuyiphumeza?

Kutheni kwaye oko kunxulumana njani nenjongo yabo engundoqo? Le asiyobholi okanye into eyongezelelweyo. Oku kubalulekile kwinjongo yabo engundoqo. Liliphi ixabiso eliya kulizisa kubo? Kwaye oko kuyabanceda, ndicinga ngoko ukwakha imeko yeshishini ukuqala ngayo kwaye okona kubaluleke kakhulu, baya kulinganisa njani impumelelo ukuze bazi xa befezekisa utshintsho abalufunayo. Ke kukuqala ngesiphelo engqondweni kwaye wakhe imeko yeshishini malunga nayo kwaye, uyazi, ukwenza inkqubela kwimiba enye okanye emibini. Ngokwemvelo, njengoko unokulindela, ndingatsho ukuba nceda uqhagamshelane nowethu Iingcali apha kwi-Eco Online. Ubusenza olu suku, ngaphandle kwabathengi abangaphezu kwe-11,000 bazo zonke iimilo kunye nobukhulu kwihlabathi liphela. Kuya kubakho into esinokuyenza ukunceda, nokuba yincoko nje leyo, uyazi, kungekho nto ingaphaya koko. Incoko nje yokuqala malunga nokuba yintoni enokwenzeka okanye enokusetyenziswa.

[00:31:54] UJackie De Burca: Kulungile. Kulungile. Ke, njengokuba, uyazi, ndicinga ukuba uninzi lwabaphulaphuli bethu bangathanda ngokwenene ukwazi ngakumbi malunga nedilesi yewebhusayithi. Davis, kwabo bamameleyo kuphela kwaye abanakujonga elona phepha.

[00:32:07] UDavid Picton: Ewe, ewe. Nje, nje ecoonline.com ngokwenene, ukuba uya kusikhangela.

Ngokuqinisekileyo. Ukuba uya kusikhangela, uya kwenza. Uya kusifumana. Ewe, kuba thina, yindibaniselwano, njengokuba bendisithi, ngenene, ndicinga ukuba kukho indibaniselwano yeendawo ezicinga imizekelo yobunkokeli. Ke hamba ujonge ecoonline.com kwaye, kwaye uya kulubamba ngokugqibeleleyo lonke ulwazi onokuthi ulufumane.

[00:32:28] UJackie De Burca: Kumnandi. Kulungile. Ngoku, ekugqibeleni, uDavid, ibe yincoko eqaqambileyo. Yintoni ovakalelwa kukuba ikunika ithemba malunga nendlela ulwakhiwo olusingise kulo, ngakumbi xa kufikwa kukhuseleko nozinzo?

[00:32:39] UDavid Picton: Ewe, enkosi, Jackie. Ndicinga ukuba ithemba ngenene yindlela endiziva ngayo ngayo, ngenene, ndibone utshintsho oluninzi kule minyaka imbalwa idlulileyo, ukuba uyathanda, loo nto. Zizinto ezininzi ezidibanayo, ndiyacinga, eziqhuba elo themba. Kukho ugxininiso olukhulayo kuqeqesho kunye neenkcubeko zokhuseleko, kubandakanywa uqeqesho lokuhlaziya kunye nomsebenzi wophuhliso ngokunjalo. Ngoko uqeqesho kunye neenkcubeko zokhuseleko ziza kakhulu ngaphambili ngoku. Akukho mathandabuzo ukuba backed up ngokuphendula kunye nommiselo ngokunjalo. Ke ubeka imigangatho elungileyo kwaye ubambe iinkampani ezinoxanduva lokuthotyelwa kokhuseleko, ukuba uyathanda. Kwaye uyazi, sibona kolunye uphando olwenzileyo kunye nobungqina obujikeleze ukuba kukho izibophelelo kutyalo-mali, ukuzinikela kutyalo-mali, uhlahlo lwabiwo-mali lokudibanisa idatha. Kwaye njengoko benditshilo, ndiyacinga ngaphambili, oko kuqhutywa zizibonakaliso ezicacileyo zamatyala oshishino aqinileyo. Ke unaloo ntshukumo yotyalo-mali ezinzileyo njengoko ixesha lihamba. Kodwa ndiyayithanda into yokuba kukho ulindelo lwabathengi ngoku, kumacandelo abathengi nakumacandelo oshishino ngokunjalo, ukuba iinkampani ziya kutyala imali. izinto ezizinzileyo, baya kulandela iindlela zokwakha ezinoxanduva, kwaye ezi ziindlela ezilungileyo zokudala iimpahla kunye neenkonzo kunye neziseko zexabiso elihlala lihleli, ngokukodwa ngokwexabiso labo eliseleyo.

Okokugqibela, ndicinga ukuba unobangela wethemba kum uhlobo olunye lwendawo, unabasebenzi abatsha abeza emsebenzini abalindele ukuba indalo, impilo kunye nokhuseleko iinkqubo ziya kudityaniswa kwaye ziqhagamshelwe. Balindele ukuba baya kuba nenkxaso kunye nemvume yokwenza into elungileyo kwaye bafuna ukuba netekhnoloji yokusebenza ngokukhuselekileyo nangenkathalo. Ngoko ndicinga njalo Isizukulwana esilandelayo iza ngapha, zizo eziya kusisa phambili zisifundise kwaye ziqhubele oku kwixesha elizayo.

[00:34:10] UJackie De Burca: Ndivumelana nawe ngokupheleleyo, David. Yinqaku eliqaqambileyo. Kwaye mhlawumbi njengoko benzayo xa kufikwa kwitekhnoloji kunye nozinzo, uyazi, mhlawumbi baya, baya, baya kuba ziinkokeli ezinkulu kuthi ukusuka kuhlobo lwethu lwexesha, ukuba uyathanda.

[00:34:23] UDavid Picton: David, ndifunde okuninzi kwiintombi zam mihla le.

[00:34:26] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, ngokupheleleyo. Mamela, kube luyolo olunje kunye nolwazi olubaluleke kakhulu. David, enkosi kakhulu. Enkosi.