S4, E2: Ukuphonononga i-Vancouver's Urban Design kunye ne-Alexandra Steed

Ushicilelo - nceda uqaphele oku kwenziwa ngokwedijithali kwaye kunokuba neempazamo

Lo nguJackie de Burca apha Amazwi Akhayo. Ndinochulumanco kakhulu ukunizisela eyokuqala ngqa kwiphulo lethu elitsha, eliyimbalelwano yasekuhlaleni. Aba bantu badume ngokwenene Iingcali emasimini abo angaphezu kokukwazi ukuthetha ngomsebenzi oqhubekayo kwizixeko zabo ezahlukeneyo kunye neendawo. Kwaye bendingenakonwaba ngakumbi ukuba sinondwendwe malunga nokuba ngubani umbhali kwaye ebekunye nathi ngaphambili. Umhle ngenene ngandlela zonke. NguAlexandra Steed. Wamkelekile eAlexandra.

[00:00:46] Alexandra Steed: Molo, Jackie. Ewe, igama lam ndingu-Alexandra Steed. Ndingumyili wokwakheka komhlaba kunye nomyili wasezidolophini, kwaye ndinento yokuziqhelanisa, imbonakalo-mhlaba Zakhiwo kunye nokuziqhelanisa noyilo lwedolophu kuzo zombini iLondon, eNgilani kwaye eVancouver, Khanada, endisandula ukuyivula. Ke bendisebenza kwaye ndihlala eLondon iminyaka engama-20, kwaye ndisanda kufika eVancouver kwaye ndonwabe kakhulu ukuba lapha kwaye ndihlala kwaye ndisebenza apha ngokunjalo ngoku.

[00:01:13] UJackie De Burca: Uyamangalisa. Ke siza kuntywila kulwazi lwakho malunga neVancouver kwaye siza kuthetha ngale nto. Le iya kuba yincoko yethu yokuqala malunga noku. Uya kuphinda atyelele elo xesha nexesha njengoko ufumana kwaye ufumanise ngakumbi izinto ezenzekayo malunga neVancouver. Ke lo ngumthombo okhulayo, ukuba uyathanda.

[00:01:32] U-Alexandra Steed: akunjalo? Ewe, ndingatsho ukuba iVancouver. Ihlala isesinye sezona zixeko zinokuhlalwa ehlabathini, ngoko ke iyamangalisa ngolo hlobo. Inobuhle obumangalisayo bendalo yonke indawo esixekweni, ngaphakathi kwesixeko. Uyazi, ibekwe ngaphakathi kwimeko entle kakhulu. Kwaye eneneni, ookhokho baseVancouver baseka inkqubo yepaki elungileyo kwasekuqaleni eyayikhusela iindawo ezininzi eziluhlaza phakathi kwesixeko. Ke kukho ipaki entle ebizwa ngokuba yiStanley park eyathi yabekwa ngexesha elinye nesixeko sasekwayo. Ke, uyazi, yayisoloko isengqondweni, nangona phaya kudala ngaloo mihla kwakukho indalo kuyo yonke indawo, babesazi ukuba njengoko isixeko sasikhula yaye ngokuhamba kwexesha sixinana, ukuba baya kuphulukana nolo hlobo lwendawo. Ngoko ke bekusoloko kukho uhlobo ngenene indlela eluhlaza esixekweni. Ndicinga ukuba ndibuyele mva nje esixekweni emva kokuhlala eLondon iminyaka engama-20, enye yezinto endiziqapheleyo kukuba ndicinga ukuba mhlawumbi kusekho ukuthembela kubuhle bendalo kwaye mhlawumbi hayi ekutyhaleni phambili ngendlela ezinye izixeko ezisengxakini ekufuneka zenziwe ngayo. Ke, uyazi, ezinye iindawo zehlabathi ezijongene nemiba emininzi yokwenza nokutshintsha kwemozulu kunye nokunyuka komphakamo wolwandle, ngelixa ayikavakali ngokunzulu eVancouver okwangoku. Ndicinga ukuba le yimiba iVancouver ejongene nayo, kwaye iya kuza kungekudala. Ke ndicinga ukuba kukho ukutyhala kwenyani mva nje ngoxinaniso ngaphakathi nakwisixeko esijikelezileyo. Kwaye, ewe, kuhlala kufuneka kuthathelwe ingqalelo iimfuno zezindlu, kwaye, uyazi, oko kubaluleke kakhulu, kodwa kwangaxeshanye, andiboni siseko somhlaba esomeleleyo sibekwe endaweni ukulungiselela oko kwaye, umzekelo, ukwamkela amanzi emvula eyongezelelweyo engasayi kuba nandawo yokuya xa isixeko sixinene ngakumbi. Ke ndicinga ukuba kufuneka kunikwe ingcinga engaphezulu kwimeko yexesha elizayo eVancouver kwaye kuqinisekiswe ukuba bazilungiselela ngokufanelekileyo.

[00:03:53] UJackie De Burca: Ke makhe sithethe ngeLexi, into oyithandayo ngeVancouver, ngokwahlukileyo kwindalo eyayilapho, uyazi, ngexesha lokwakha. Loluphi uhlobo izakhiwo zikhona oziva ngathi. Njengaye, ngaba ngokwenene zihambelana nendlela oziva ngayo izinto? Njengengcali yoyilo lwasezidolophini, ukuba uyathanda, yintoni ozingca ngayo ngaloo ndlela?

. Ke ayenziwanga ngendlela efanayo apho unomthwalo wokunyuka okuphezulu konke kubambene ecaleni komnye. Kwakusoloko kukho ukuqwalaselwa kokuhamba kwesixeko kunye namava omntu ohamba ngeenyawo ohamba ngesitrato. Ke, uyazi, xa ucinga ukuba ziziphi izithintelo zezakhiwo, ucinga ukuba mhlawumbi ubuya umva kwisakhiwo ukuze amava kwinqanaba lesitrato angoyiki kwaye akoyikise ngokuba nenqaba ende ecaleni kwakho. Ngoko ke baye bahlala belungile kwaye becinga ngokuqwalasela loo mava abahambi ngeenyawo kunye nokusebenzisa imithi emininzi yesitrato ukuthambisa iziphumo zezakhiwo kunye nohlobo lwegrit yesixeko. Ke kukho imithi emininzi eyoyikekayo apha ezise ubuhle obukhulu kwindawo kwaye buluhlaza nje ngokubanzi. Ngoko iindonga eziluhlaza, uphahla oluluhlaza. IVancouver yayisoloko inesixa esikhulu sophahla oluluhlaza. Nkqu yayingasoloko icace gca ukuba luphahla. Ke loo nto ibandakanyiwe iminyaka, kwaye abantu abanjengomakhi womhlaba omangalisayo ogama linguCornelia Oberlander, owenza izinto ezininzi ezimangalisayo kulo lonke elaseCanada kwaye wayenobukho obubaluleke ngokwenene kumazwe ngamazwe, nabo. Wayebaluleke kakhulu ekusekeni uhlobo olunjalo lwendlela yokusondela uyilo lwesixeko, kunye nomyili wezakhiwo ogama linguArthur Erickson, awayesebenza naye ngokusondeleyo. Ke zazibalulekile ngokwendlela iVancouver eyaqala ngayo ukuvela kolu hlobo lwendlela eluhlaza. Kwaye kukho abanye abantu abaninzi ababandakanyekayo, kunjalo, kodwa kukho amaGama amabini ahlala ehleli engqondweni yam njengotyikityo lwenyani eVancouver kwaye malunga nendlela yonke yokugcina amava ale ndawo angaphezulu kwabantu kwaye ayilungiswanga kakhulu.

[00:06:34] UJackie De Burca: Ke kuvakala kumnandi ngokwenene, nangona kunjalo, uyazi, ngasemva kuyo yonke into. Ewe, kuthekani ngokuqhubela phambili, into oyikhankanyileyo malunga nokuthandwa, njengoku, izikhukhula kunye nokunye, iVancouver ibekwe njani kuloo meko?

[00:06:48] U-Alexandra Steed: Ewe, ngoku banenkqubo efana nezixeko ezininzi kwihlabathi liphela apho iyinkqubo yogutyulo lwesiphango edibeneyo. Ke kwiziganeko zezikhukula, unenkqubo yogutyulo emva koko idibanisa namanzi esiphango kwaye ikhuphele ngaphandle kwi-bay. Yinto ke leyo eya kuthatha iminyaka emininzi ukuyijika. Kukho inkqubo ekhoyo kwaye, uyazi, naxa ndandisebenza nesixeko ngaphezu kweminyaka engama-20 eyadlulayo, yayikhona. Kwakukho uhlobo lwengcinga ekufuneka iqwalaselwe kwaye, kwaye uninzi lwe njineli Ndandisebenza naye ngelo xesha babethetha ngaloo nto. Ke bona, babesazi ukuba loo nto imelwe kukulungiswa. Kodwa ke oko kuthatha imali eninzi kunye nomsebenzi omkhulu ukwenza oko kwenzeke.

Ngoko ke, ngumba lowo. Kodwa kukwakho, njengoko benditshilo ngaphambili, umba malunga nokunyusa uxinaniso. Ke kukho umqhubi omkhulu wokunyusa ingxinano, ngakumbi malunga nezikhululo, ukufumana abakhweli abaninzi kwimigca yohambo, elicebo elihle.

Kodwa kunye nolo xinaniso, andiboni kukho indlela engqongqo yendlela ekuya kujongwa ngayo amanzi esiphango. Ke kwiindawo apho amanzi esiphango ebekwazi ukuwela emithini okanye kwizityalo okanye engceni, kwaye emva koko akwazi ukutyhutyha umhlaba ngokwemvelo kwaye angene kwinkqubo yesaqhwithi ngaloo ndlela, ngoku, ngokuqinisekileyo, ezo ndawo ziya kugqunywa kwaye ziya kugqunywa. azisafunxwa buhlaza. Ke siya kuba nezakhiwo zophahla, siya kuba nendawana yokuhamba ngeenyawo, kwaye kukho uhlobo lwendawo yokuhlala ukuvumela indawo encinci yamanzi emvula eyongezelelweyo, kodwa hayi into endicinga ukuba iyimfuneko ukuhlangabezana neemfuno ezikhulayo kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo hayi kwixesha elizayo. iimfuno. Ke ndicinga ukuba kuninzi, uyazi, uhlobo lwethuba elalahlekayo apho. Kodwa ndingatsho ukuba ayinakusebenza. Ndicinga ukuba lisekhona ithuba lokwenza oko, kodwa kufuneka siyenze ngokukhawuleza phambi kokuba oku kuxinana kwenzeke.

[00:08:58] UJackie De Burca: Ke ingathatha ixesha elingakanani ukuba olo xinaniso lugqitywe?

[00:09:03] U-Alexandra Steed: Ewe, iyenzeka ngoku sithetha.

Umthetho, ndiyacinga, ungene kulo nyaka uphelileyo, ngoko ngumthetho omtsha, kodwa kukho ukuqhubela phambili kunye nesidingo esikhulu sokwakha. Ke, uyazi, iiprojekthi sele ziqhuba. Ke ndicinga ukuba kufuneka siqinisekise ukuba izibonelelo eziluhlaza kunye neziseko eziluhlaza zilukwe ngononophelo olukhulu kobu bunzima butsha.

[00:09:33] UJackie De Burca: Okwangoku ubusebenza ngokucacileyo e-UK, njengoko ubutshilo, iminyaka engama-20, kwaye ubuzinze kwaye ujikeleze indawo yaseLondon, Essex njalo njalo. .

Injani le nto xa ithelekiswa neLondon? Njengaxa uthelekisa iVancouver neLondon, uyazi, ecaleni.

Ndiyazi ukuba inzima, mhlawumbi ifana nombuzo ontsokothileyo, kodwa into oyibonayo uhlobo lweenzuzo kunye nokubi kuzo zombini izixeko. Ndibuza umbuzo onzima, kodwa ndifuna impendulo elula.

[00:10:06] UAlexandra Steed: Ewe, ndiyacinga, uyazi, iLondon. Ujongene neemeko ezinzima kakhulu ngenxa yeengqimba ezininzi zembali eLondon. Ndithetha ukuba, ukuba ujonga icandelo elinqamlezileyo, ukuba ubunokunqumla isitalato, umzekelo, kukho iileya kunye neeleya zeziseko ezingundoqo ezibekwe ngaphantsi komgangatho womphezulu. Ngaphezulu komgangatho womphezulu. Kodwa, uyazi, uninzi lwayo lufihliwe. Ngelixa eVancouver, kuba sisixeko esitsha samva nje, sifakwe kuphela ngo-1886, ndiyakholwa. Ke, uyazi, sisixeko esitsha. Kwaye ngaphambi koko ngokwenene nje ihlathi kwaye iintlanga zokuqala abantu abahlala apha. Ke itshintshile isixa esikhulu kwinkulungwane edlulileyo. Kodwa ngenxa yoko, kukho ithuba elininzi lokubandakanya iindlela ezilungileyo ngokwenene ukusuka ekuqaleni. Kwaye izinto ezininzi zenziwe kakuhle, ndingathi, uyazi, ukuvumela indawo eluhlaza kunye nemithi eluhlaza kunye nolo hlobo lwento ngaphakathi kwezitrato zedolophu. Ngoku kuya kuba nzima ukwenza. Kwaye nje, ndicinga ukuba iyadanisa kancinane into yokuba iVancouver ayiqinisekisi ngenene malunga nokuzibophelela kwayo ekugcineni elo lifa lohlaza, uyazi, lokugcina elo lifa lokuphila ngaphakathi kwendalo, lokuhlala ngaphakathi kwehlathi, kwaye ngenene uhlobo lokwenza imali kulo kwaye ibonise ilizwe liphela ukuba makwenziwe njani. Ke ndicinga ngalo mzuzu, mhlawumbi ithuba lilahlekile.

Njengoko benditshilo ngaphambili, ndicinga ukuba yinto enokubuyiselwa ngokukhawuleza. Andicingi ukuba sele kusemva kwexesha, kodwa ndicinga ukuba amandla amaninzi kufuneka afakwe kuloo nto. Ngelixa indawo efana neLondon, bajongana neziphumo zezikhukula ngakumbi, uhlobo lobundlobongela, ndingatsho. Nangona nalapha, uyazi, zininzi izehlo ezimbi ezenzekileyo kulo nyaka uphelileyo ndihlala apha ngokwezikhukula. Abantu abaninzi baye babethwa kakhulu yiloo nto. Kodwa eLondon, ngumba omkhulu ngakumbi, kwaye kunzima ngakumbi ukuguqula izinto xa sele wehlile kuloo Ndlela yoxinaniso kunye neendawo ezingenamanzi, ukungabikho kophahla oluluhlaza, ukungabikho kweendawo eziluhlaza esitratweni, ukunqongophala kokungena. ukupeyinta kunye nolo hlobo lwento. Ke kunzima kakhulu ukulungisa ezo mpazamo kunokwenza kwasekuqaleni. Ke, uyazi, ndinethemba lokuba iVancouver ingaqhubeka iyenza kakuhle kunokuba yenze, uyazi, iimpazamo ekufuneka bezilungisile kwiminyaka embalwa edluleyo.

[00:12:55] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, yimpendulo enika umdla leyo. Kwaye ndiyaqikelela ukuba ubuyela kwimeko ngoku, uyazi, ukhombe kwaye uphawule malunga neVancouver, yintoni enokwenziwa okanye kuya kufuneka ifane yenziwe ngokutsha malunga noku kuxinana ukuba abantu abalungileyo bathatha isigqibo sokukumamela. okanye mhlawumbi ayinguwe wedwa umntu owenza olu qwalaselo. Akunjalongo noko.

[00:13:21] UAlexandra Steed: Hayi, akunjalo. Hayi. Baninzi abantu abaxhalabileyo malunga nezakhiwo eziluhlaza kunye noluhlaza okwesibhakabhaka esixekweni xa lo mthetho mtsha ungenile. Ngoko ke, umzekelo, ndicinga ukuba kubaluleke kakhulu ukuba kubekho i indawo yoluntu kunye nesicwangciso sepaki esibanzi kuso sonke isixeko. Kwaye ngelixa uxinaniso lusenzeka, iindawo eziluhlaza nazo zikhuselwe ngaphakathi kweso sicwangciso sikhulu. Kuba into esiyibonayo kwiindawo ezininzi apha kukuba ngokukhawuleza indawo yokuhlala yabahlali ngokwendawo eluhlaza iyancipha ngokukhawuleza. Ke, akukho ndlela yokukhusela endaweni yezo zithuba. Akukabikho ngcaciso ecacileyo yokwenene yeentlobo zeendlela zesitrato ekufanele ziyilwe kwaye zivumele ukungeneka okungaphezulu kwezo ndawo. Ke ngokomzekelo, ukuqinisekisa ukuba kukho imijiko okanye iigadi zemvula okanye iipavumente ezingenekayo, uyazi, olo hlobo lwento alukamiselwanga mthetho ngendlela efanayo noxinaniso, kwaye akubandakanyanga nepesenti ethile yophahla oluluhlaza. Ke, uyazi, ndinomntu endisebenza naye apha, ongusihlalo wombutho obizwa ngokuba nguGrin. Kwaye ke yonke into malunga neziseko zophahla eziluhlaza.

Kwaye ke bayayikhuthaza ngenene loo nto, kodwa baye baphoxeka kuhlobo lwempendulo abayifumana ngalo ndlela. Ke, uyazi, ndicinga nje ngokuhambelana noxinaniso, inokwenziwa kakuhle kakhulu. Uyazi, andichasene noxinaniso, kodwa inokwenziwa ngendlela engcono ejonge kwikamva, ukuqonda imiba ngamanzi esiphango esiya kuba nawo ngokunyuka kwezikhukula, kunye neziganeko zemozulu ezongeziweyo, ezigqithisileyo, ezigqithisileyo, uyazi, umgangatho ogqithisileyo wezi zehlo zemozulu nazo, ekufuneka sidibanise kwaye sidibanise izisombululo ezisekelwe kwindalo kuphuhliso lwethu kwaye, kwaye singayihoyi loo nto ngeli xesha, nje.

Yona. Bubudenge nje, uyazi, ukungacingi ngolo hlobo.

[00:15:39] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, ndicinga ukuba yiyo. Kucacile ukuba bubudenge obugqithisileyo kwaye bubuhlungu ngakumbi xa kufikwa kwimvelaphi yesixeko ekuqaleni kunye namaxesha esiphila kuwo ngoku. Ewe, uyazi, kwaye uvela e-UK ixesha elizeleyo, kwaye ndiyazi ukuba usaziqhelanisa ne-UK ngokunjalo, ke ndiyazi ukuba ayisiyiyo into efunekayo kuxinaniso othe wathetha ngalo yonke into, kodwa kukho nantoni na oyithethayo. inzuzo yet ngeenxa Vancouver ngalo mzuzu, okanye hayi?

[00:16:06] U-Alexandra Steed: Ewe, ndiyavuya ukuba undibuze loo nto. Bendi. Bendizakukhankanya okulandelayo, eneneni, kuba, kwakhona, ndicinga ukuba iVancouver mhlawumbi iphumle kwi-laurels yayo kancinane kunokuba ibifanele ukuba njalo, mhlawumbi ngeli xesha ngexesha. Kwaye akukho nto ifana nenzuzo yebhayoloji eshiyekileyo okwangoku. Kukho umdla omkhulu kuyo. Ndiyazi ukuba uninzi lwabantu lundibuze malunga nalo nto kwaye bandibuze ngezifundo endizifundileyo ngenzuzo yebhayoloji eyohlukeneyo kunye nokuba ingasetyenziswa njani apha.

Kukho isixa esikhulu somdla ovela kubantu abaninzi, kodwa kwakhona, akufikelelwanga kumthetho, akukho ndawo ikufutshane kuloo nto. Ke kukho indalo eninzi ejikeleze iVancouver kwaye nohlobo olulukiweyo kuyo, ndicinga ukuba uninzi lwabantu alukhange luzikhathaze ngayo. Bayayonwabela. Kodwa kwakhona mhlawumbi qwalasela ukuba ayingomcimbi omninzi apha xa kuthelekiswa neendawo ezininzi zehlabathi. Kwaye yinyani leyo. Uyazi, kungcono kunokuba mhlawumbi uninzi lwezixeko zehlabathi, kodwa isafuna ingqalelo kwaye ifuna ukulondolozwa kunye nokukhuselwa kwaye kufuneka imiselwe ngokomthetho ukuze singaphulukani nayo kwaye iindawo eziluhlobo lokubandezeleka. ngakumbi ngaloo ndlela, ngokwemigaqo ye-pollinators kunye ne-biodiversity kwaye, uyazi, kunye nezilwanyana ezingenamqolo, akukho naluphi na uhlobo lwengqalelo malunga naloo nto, kanti loo nto ifumana ingqalelo eninzi e-uk. Ke ukuyigcina isengqondweni kwaye uqiniseke ukuba nangona isenokungabi ngumba ongxamisekileyo apha, nangona usazi ukuba, sele uyithethile loo nto, iyangxamisekile, iyangxamisekile. Ke kufuneka ibandakanywe kwaye idityaniswe kuzo zonke izicwangciso ezilapha ngokunjalo. Ke nayiphi na into ejikeleze ukomelela kwemozulu, ukunyuka komgangatho wolwandle, kunye nomba omkhulu oza kujongana neVancouver, ndiyakholelwa ukuba ufuna ukuhoywa ngakumbi. Kukhe kwakho ukuhoywa apha, kodwa ndiyakholwa ukuba ifuna ngaphezulu. Ke ukomelela kwemozulu, uyazi, izikhukula, indalo eyohlukeneyo, zonke ezi zinto kufuneka ziqwalaselwe kwaye zilukwe kwizicwangciso zekamva.

[00:18:20] UJackie De Burca: Ke kule nto uyithethayo, kuba ewe, le yingxoxo yethu yokuqala malunga neVancouver. Ngokuthe ngqo, ngaba ngumbuzo wokuba sizikhathaze kancinci kuba sinohlobo oluthile indalo entle isixeko ebusweni ubuncinane, kwaye ngoko akuyomfuneko ukuba sibe ngathi ukuphakuzela malunga nomthetho kwaye oku, ukuba kunye nezinye. Kodwa kwelinye icala, ngokulula sinokutyibilika umva.

[00:18:42] Alexandra Steed: Hayi, ewe, kanye. Ndiyakholwa ukuba kunjalo, ukuba kukho ukungakhathali. Kukho uhlobo lwesimo sengqondo sokuba, kulungile, jonga ngakuwe, kukho indalo kuyo yonke indawo, ngoko akukho mfuneko yokuba senze enye into. Ndiyithetha loo nto ngokwembono yezopolitiko kwaye baninzi kakhulu abantu abakhathalela kakhulu indalo kwaye bafuna ukuyigcina. Kodwa uyazi, xa, xa sijonga abezopolitiko, abanazo izinto ezifanayo engqondweni. Ke bamalunga nokukhula kuqoqosho kunye nokwakha ngaphandle kokubeka zonke iindlela zokhuseleko ekufanele zibekho kwindalo.

Ewe.

[00:19:22] UJackie De Burca: Kwaye kwezopolitiko kukho kancinci kancinci okwangoku, njengakwiindawo ezininzi.

[00:19:25] Alexandra Steed: Ewe, yinyani.

[00:19:27] UJackie De Burca: Ayincedi, akunjalo?

[00:19:28] Alexandra Steed: Hayi, hayi, kunzima kakhulu. Ewe.

[00:19:32] UJackie De Burca: Kulungile. Asiyi kuhla kulaa mngxuma womvundla, ngokucacileyo, sizame ukuwuphepha lowo. Hayi eyona nto iphambili, ayisiyiyo eyona nto iphambili kwingxoxo yethu. Ngoko. Kulungile, uyichazile ngokwenyani njengemigibe enokubakho yeVancouver ngoku, ukuba uyathanda, ngokuchasene nemvelaphi yembali yayo emangalisayo kunye nokuba injani ngoku, kodwa ukuba ingalahleka njani, uyazi, ngokulula, masithi, kwaye ungalungeli ngokwaneleyo imingeni ejongene nayo kwihlabathi liphela ngoku, uyazi, ngenxa yokutshintsha kwemozulu, ngokucacileyo.

Yintoni ozingca ngayo malunga nayo, ingaba zikhona naziphi na izakhiwo ezikhethekileyo, naziphi na iiprojekthi ezikhethekileyo zeziseko ezingundoqo? Ngaba, zikhona iimbalasane ongathanda ukuthetha ngazo? Ke abantu abangekho eVancouver banokuliqonda elo cala?

[00:20:25] U-Alexandra Steed: Ewe, njengezinye izixeko endizaziyo, iVancouver ibityala amandla athile kunye nemali ethile ekujongeni ukuba unxweme lonke lungalungiselelwa njani ukunyuka komphakamo wolwandle kunye nokutshintsha kwemozulu. . Kwaye kukho umsebenzi omhle ngokwenene owenziwe luyilo lwasezidolophini kunye nolwakhiwo lwendalo apha ebonisa ukuba inokuba njani indawo emangalisayo, uhlobo lokuba siqala ukusebenzisa izisombululo ezisekwe kwindalo kunye nokwazisa amanxweme asempilweni ngakumbi ukubandakanya oko ekukhuseleni. isixeko. Ke ayisiyiyo nje intle, uyazi, ungaba nazo ezi paki zintle ngakumda wamanzi, kodwa iyakusebenza njengesithinteli ukwenza intshukumo yamaza kunye nokhukuliseko kunye nokunyuka komphakamo wolwandle oko. Ukuba isixeko ngokuqinisekileyo siya kuba namava kwixesha elizayo. Ke kukho umsebenzi omhle kakhulu owenziwe ngeenxa zonke endingathanda ukuwubona uqhubela phambili ngakumbi. Umh, kuba kukho iingcali ezininzi apha. Ukuqonda iinkxalabo kunye nokuqonda imiceli mngeni kwaye ukulungele ukuyisombulula, uyazi, ngoko kuninzi kakhulu ukuthanda kwezopolitiko ngoku emva kwezo zinto ukuba ziphunyezwe. Kodwa ndingathi, uyazi, mninzi loo msebenzi, ndichukumiseke kakhulu ngawo wonke umsebenzi endawubonayo wenziwa kunxweme lwaseVancouver.

Lo nto. Kuyamangalisa ngokwenene oko ukubona.

[00:22:07] UJackie De Burca: Enkosi kakhulu.

[00:22:08] Alexandra Steed: Hayi, enkosi, Jackie. Bekumnandi.