S3, E21: Ubume beedolophu zethu kunye noGqr Nadina Galle, iCandelo 4

Ushicilelo oluveliswe ngedijithali (lunokubandakanya ezinye iimpazamo)

Molo okanye emva kwemini, kuxhomekeke kwixesha losuku omamele le nto. Lo nguJackie de Burca for Amazwi Akhayo, kwaye ndikushicilelo lwam lokugqibela kunye nombhali omangalisayo. Kwaye uneminye iminqwazi emininzi neminye emininzi ayinxibayo nayo. Nadine Galle, obhale le ncwadi imangalisayo ngokwenene efikelelekayo kubo bonke abantu. Kwaye ngoku sikwincoko yethu yokugqibela, egxile ngokwenene kwindlela indalo enokuyichaphazela ngayo impilo yethu kakuhle.

Kwaye siya kumacebo ajikeleze ukuvezwa kwendalo kunye nezenzo ezilungileyo njalo njalo. UNadina, kwabo bangakhange bamamele ezinye iziqendu, ngokuqinisekileyo siza kunika abo bantu i-smack encinci kwaye bathi buyela umva kwaye uphulaphule isiqendu sokuqala kuba uNadina wenza intshayelelo emangalisayo malunga nawo wonke umsebenzi wakhe. Kodwa kwabo, ngesizathu esithile, ukuba bamamele esi siqendu kuphela, unganika intshayelelo emfutshane malunga nawe, nceda?

[00:01:11] UGqr Nadina Galle: Ngokuqinisekileyo. Kwaye enkosi, Jackie, ngokuba nam kwakhona. Kwaye molweni, nonke. Igama lam nguGqr Nadina Galle. Ndiyinjineli yendalo yaseDatshi yaseCanada. Ndingu-2024 National Geographic Explorer, kwaye kutshanje umbhali weNdalo yeZixeko zethu. Singawabophelela njani Amandla eHlabathi leNdalo ukuze sisinde kwiPlanethi eguqukayo.

[00:01:33] UJackie De Burca: Ugqwesile. Ngoko ke sizakutsibela phakathi. Kutheni indalo ibalulekile kwimpilo yomntu? Nadina, ndiyazi ukuba ngumbuzo omkhulu lowo, kodwa ndihlekise kwaye undiphendule kangangoko unako, nceda.

[00:01:44] UGqr Nadina Galle: Ewe, ngokwenene ngumbuzo omkhulu. Kwaye ndicinga ukuba ndiza kuqala ngenye yeenzuzo endicinga ukuba abantu abaninzi banokunxulumana nazo. Kwaye oko kuphela inzuzo yethu impilo Yengqondo. Kunene. Ukungakhuseleki kwi luhlaza iindawo kakhulu kunokunciphisa uxinzelelo, ixhala, ukudakumba. Indalo inale mpembelelo yokuthomalalisa kunye neyokubuyisela, endicinga ukuba inokuphucula okanye hayi. Ndicinga ukuba uphando lubonisa ukuba sinokuyiphucula indlela esiziva ngayo kunye nomsebenzi wethu wokuqonda, kwaye ndicinga ukuba ngokubanzi nje kunceda abantu bazive bekhululekile kwaye begxile. Impilo yengqondo yinto enye. Kukwakho nempilo yethu yomzimba. Ndithi indalo iyawukhuthaza ngokwenene umsebenzi womzimba, nokuba kukuhamba okanye ukukhwela ibhayisekile okanye ukudlala nje ngaphandle. Ukuphumla, ukuphumla ngaphandle, bathi. Uphando luye lwabonisa ukuba ukufikelela rhoqo kwiipaki kunye neziqholo eziluhlaza, uyazi, kunciphisa ingozi yezinto ezifana nesifo esingapheliyo, ukukhuluphala, isifo senhliziyo, isifo sikashukela.

Oko kukodwa kukodwa kubaluleke ngokwenene.

Kodwa kukwakho nezinye izinto esinokuthi singacingi ngazo okanye sizibone, kwaye ezo zizinto ezinjalo umgangatho womoya. Ukuba nemithi kunye nezityalo kunokucoca izinto ezingcolisa umoya, kuphucule umgangatho womoya, kwaye ngaloo ndlela kuphucule imiba yethu yokuphefumla. Kwaye iyonke loo nto ihamba nayo. Ilawula amaqondo obushushu, ngoko igcina izixeko zethu zipholile ngexesha lasehlotyeni. Kwakhona kugcina izixeko zethu zifudumele ebusika, nto leyo enomdla. Isebenza njengesikhuseli kwiindlela zombini.

Kukho inxalenye enkulu yonxibelelwano lwentlalo, endicinga ukuba luhamba kunye nempilo yengqondo. Kodwa lo mbono wokuba iindawo eziluhlaza kunye neepaki zibonelela ngeendawo zokunxibelelana noluntu, nto leyo ibaluleke kakhulu kwimini nakwiminyaka apho sijongana nokwahlukaniswa kwabantu abaninzi kunye nobulolo obuphuma kubhubhane, ibiyinto enkulu leyo. Kwaye kwixesha apho abantu abancinci beya ezicaweni okanye kwiindawo zokholo, imimandla yendalo kunye neepaki eziluhlaza ngokwenene yenye yeendawo ezimbalwa esinazo zokuba nezi ndawo zokwabelana ngazo apho sinokuhlangana kunye nokukhuthaza intsebenziswano yoluntu.

Kwaye ndingatsho okokugqibela, nje ukwenza isangqa emva kwelo nqaku lokuqala kukuba, ewe, kubalulekile kwimpilo yengqondo. Kodwa kukhulu kunoko, ndicinga ukuba indalo kunye neendawo eziluhlaza kwizixeko zethu, zinika oku kuphunyuka kokubuyisela kwingxolo kunye neengxabano kunye noxinzelelo lobomi basezidolophini. Kwaye loo nto ingaba yingcinezelo eninzi yomzimba, akunjalo? Itrafikhi, inkulu izakhiwo, i-asphalt eninzi, ingxolo enkulu. Kodwa inokuba luxinzelelo lwayo, akunjalo? Imisebenzi exakekileyo, ii-ajenda ezixakekileyo, uyazi, abazali nabantwana abacinezelekileyo, kunye nee-ajenda ezicwangcisiweyo, uyazi, zonke ezi zinto ngaphandle kokuba siziqonde ngokwenene ngamanye amaxesha, zinokuba nefuthe elikhulu kuthi. Kwaye ukuba kwindalo, nokuba oko kuthetha nje ukuthatha inxaxheba kuhambo lwakho ngepaseji eluhlaza, ukukhwela ibhayisekile kwisitrato esinemithi, okanye uyazi, ukuthatha ikhefu lakho lesidlo sasemini epakini, zonke ezo zinto zinokuba neempembelelo ezinkulu kwimpilo yethu. . Kwaye ngamanye amaxesha kunzima ukwenza uhlobo, uyazi, ndingangena kwiinkcukacha zezi zinto kwaye ndikunike izibalo kunye namanani malunga nokuba kutheni nganye inceda, uyazi, ukunceda abantwana ukuba bangaphuhlisi myopia, ekuqinisekiseni ukuba sinayo. ngokwaneleyo i-vitamin D, ekuqinisekiseni ukuba sifumana umsebenzi owaneleyo womzimba. Kodwa iphantse ivakale njengokunciphisa ukuthoba izibonelelo zendalo kolu hlobo lwelensi yenzululwazi ngenene. Kuba ekugqibeleni ndiyakholelwa ukuba sivela kwindalo, savela kwindalo. Yinxalenye yezinto ezisenza abantu. Kwaye ndicinga ukuba nabani na unokunxulumana nolu luvo lokuba ukuba uchitha uninzi losuku lwakho ngaphakathi, awuziva uphilile, xa uthelekisa naxa uchitha ixesha elininzi ngaphandle nakwindalo, uziva ngcono ngokuzenzekelayo. Kwaye ndicinga ukuba yinto wonke umntu anokunxulumana nayo. Kwaye ekugqibeleni, ndiyakholelwa ukuba sizimisele ukuthanda indalo kwaye sifuna ukuba kwindalo.

[00:05:38] UJackie De Burca: Ndivumelana nawe ngentliziyo epheleleyo.

Kwaye ndicinga ukuba, uyazi, enye yezinto ezibalulekileyo ukuba thina, sithetha ngazo kukuba ukhankanye abantwana kwindalo, kulungile, ngenxa nje yemizimba yabo, ukulunga komzimba, ukuphepha, uyazi, izifo ezibangelwa kukuswela. yevithamini D kunye nokunye. Kodwa ke, kwinqanaba elithile kwincwadi yakho, ukhankanya ukuba ngexesha lokubhala, ukhulelwe uLuca. Kwaye, ngokuqinisekileyo kukho, uyazi, ukubamba, ndiyacinga, izinto ezininzi, hayi abafazi kuphela, ngokuqinisekileyo, amadoda akwacinga ngezi zinto. Ngaba ndiza kuzisa umntwana kulo mhlaba njengoko unjalo? Uyazi, olu luhlobo lwemibuzo ngokucacileyo abanye abantu abanayo. Kwaye kukho, uyazi, mhlawumbi ezinye izizathu ezivakalayo zaloo nto. Le ibiyinkqubo kuwe, ndiyacinga. Adina.

[00:06:28] UGqr Nadina Galle: Ewe, kunzima ngokwenene. Yincoko endiyiva kakhulu apha kum. Olu loyiko olumnyama kakhulu kunye nokungabikho kwethemba ngekamva, olu loyiko lwemozulu, lwe imo iyatshintsha, yeziphumo zayo, kwaye le mvakalelo ngokubanzi yale ayilolizwe endifuna ukuzisa abantwana kulo. Kwaye oko kunjalo. Ndiyathetha, ndiba neemvakalelo ndicinga nje ngaloo nto kuba ndikholelwa ukuba sibekwe kulo mhlaba ukuzisa ubomi obuninzi kulo mhlaba. Kwaye ndiyakholelwa ukuba yinjongo yethu leyo ekupheleni kosuku. Kwaye kungakhathaliseki ukuba kwenzeka ntoni na, ngokucacileyo ayinguye wonke umntu ofanele abe nabantwana bakhe ukuba asiyonto ayifunayo leyo. Kodwa, uyazi, ukuzisa abantwana emhlabeni, nokuba ngabatshana okanye abatshana okanye abantwana bomtshato okanye abantwana abangowesibini, yindlela yokuba negalelo nakwikamva leplanethi yethu, kwikamva lehlabathi esiya kulishiya ngasemva. kwabo bantwana. Kwaye injalo, ibuhlungu kum kangangokuba baninzi abantu emhlabeni abaziva ngathi ayiseyonto ifanele ukwenziwa. Kuba ndiziva ngathi xa wena, xa uthatha isigqibo, oko kuthetha ukuba ubuncamile ubomi bakho kwezinye, kwezinye, ngandlel' ithile okanye enye. Kwaye ndicinga ukuba inyaniso yokuvavanya uluntu oluhle ngabo batyala imithi baze batyale iindawo zendalo besazi ukuba abanakuze bahlale phantsi komthunzi waloo mthi. Phofu ke, liqhalo elidala elo endilicaphulayo nasencwadini.

Ndiyakholelwa ukuba ukuba kwindalo, kunokuba ndigxile kwintshabalalo kunye nobumnyama bokutshintsha kwemozulu, ndikholelwa ukuba ukugxila kwindalo ngokwenene kunika olu luvo lukhulu lobuninzi, le mvakalelo yokuba kusoloko kukho okungakumbi kwaye kukho intabalala yomntu wonke kwaye kukho okungakumbi. apho ivela khona, kuninzi esinokukudala. Kwaye ndiyakuthanda ukucinga ngaloo ngqiqo yobuninzi kunokuba le mvakalelo yoloyiko. Kwaye iintloni kunye nokukhomba abantu abenza izinto ngendlela engafanelekanga.

Ndonwabe kakhulu, uyazi, ukubhala nokusebenza kule cusp ye indalo yasedolophini kuba ndiyakholelwa ukuba yindalo esinayo kubomi bethu bemihla ngemihla ebaluleke kakhulu, kodwa iyasebenza ukusuka kule ndawo yobuninzi kunokuba le mvakalelo. Yehlazo kunye netyala.

[00:08:44] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, ndicinga ukuba ityhalwe ngokugqwesileyo. Kwaye elinye igama eliya kuthi qatha engqondweni yam malunga, uyazi, abantu kunye nendalo, uyazi, abantwana baboniswa ngootitshala babo, uyazi, ukuba bangaba ngabafundisi babo esikolweni, abanokuba ngabafundisi babo esikolweni. usapho kunye, uyazi, abahlobo, abamelwane, indlela esinokusebenzisana ngayo nendalo. Ukusebenzisana ligama elithi qatha engqondweni kuba kwisiqendu sokugqibela, unike imizekelo emangalisayo yencwadi yakho, imizekelo yokuthanda iinkumba kunye, uyazi, amagwababa njalo njalo.

Indalo ngokwayo isebenzisana nayo ngokwayo. Uhlobo lutshintsha umbala walo kuba lufuna. Uhlobo luyayitshintsha iminxeba yalo kuba nayo ifuna njalo, ngenxa yedolophu indawo ehlala kuyo. Ngoko ke, ukuba abantu bayasebenzisana nendalo, konke okubonayo ngenxa yomsebenzi wakho omhle kunokwenzeka ngokupheleleyo. Kwaye ke, uyazi, hayi ukuba akukho mfuneko yentshabalalo kunye nobumnyama, kodwa eneneni, oko kunokupheliswa kwaye, uyazi, beka phantsi ngokungaphaya ngokusebenzisana nendalo kwaye ukhuthaze oko ngokukhawuleza.

[00:09:58] UGqr Nadina Galle: Ewe, ewe. Kwaye ndicinga ukuba siye. Siye.

Asiyiboni loo nto. Asiyiboni into yokuba indalo ngoyena mncedi wethu mkhulu. Siphulukene nombono wokuba indalo, ndiyathetha, sidwelise ezinye ekuqaleni kwesi siqendu, kodwa indalo idlala indima kuwo onke amabakala obomi bethu. Ndicinga ukuba ungayenza ngokunyanisekileyo loo ngxoxo. Kwaye nokuba loo nto ikwi, uyazi, izibonelelo ukuba thina. Oko kufuneka sakhe kumakhaya kwaye sakhe iiofisi zethu, nokuba zikumgangatho wazo womoya esiwuphefumlayo kwaye sixhomekeke kuwo yonke imihla, umgangatho wamanzi ethu, iindawo esiya kuzo ukuze siphinde senze iinkqubo zokutya zisekelwe ngokupheleleyo kwibhalansi esempilweni yethu zendalo ngendalo. Ngoko kukho. Kukho amakhonkco amaninzi awahlukeneyo. Kwaye ekugqibeleni, ndicinga ukubuyisela unxibelelwano nendalo kubaluleke kakhulu ekudaleni abantu abonwabileyo nabasempilweni abahlala kwiplanethi eyonwabileyo nesempilweni.

[00:10:56] UJackie De Burca: 100%. I-100% ivumelana nawe, Nadina. Ke ukuqhubela phambili kwi-ecotherapy, nayo leyo, uyazi, uxelelwe. Wathetha nangamanye amagama ngokunjalo. Yintoni kanye kanye kwaye ngawaphi amanye amagama esinokuwazi ngawo?

[00:11:12] UGqr Nadina Galle: Ewe, ndicinga ukuba ezinye zezona ziqhelekileyo zizinto ezinjengonyango lwasehlathini. Ukuhlamba ehlathini yenye enye. Ngaba enye eqhelekileyo, evela kwigama lesiJapan elithi shinrin yoku, elithetha ngokoqobo ukuhlamba ehlathini.

Kwaye iJapan ngokwenene yayiphambili kokuninzi ngenxa yokuba babona, uyazi, uguquko olukhawulezayo lwemizi-mveliso, uyazi, ngokukhawuleza. Ukufudukela kwabantu ezidolophini, imisebenzi emininzi yokungalali, leyo, uyazi, yahlukile kuleyo yayiqhele ukwenziwa yiJapan ngaphambili. Babone izinto ezinkulu kukuphazamiseka kwempilo yengqondo kunye nezinto ezinje ngoxinzelelo kunye noxinzelelo, izinto, uyazi, esinokunxulumana nazo sonke. Kwaye babona izibonelelo ezinkulu zokuba abantu babe ngaphandle kwendalo. Kwaye, ewe, uyazi, abadala baseJapan babenje, ewe, ewe, ewe, kulapho sivela khona. Ngokuqinisekileyo uya kuziva ungcono kwaye uhlaziye ngakumbi xa ulapho. Kodwa urhulumente ngenene wabona amandla amakhulu kuloo nto kwaye eneneni watyala imali eninzi ukuyila, uyazi, ukuba umntu aqinisekise, uyazi, izikhokelo zokuhlambela ehlathini zokuthatha, uyazi, nokuba uninzi, njengabo, abatyibilizi besixeko abangena kwindalo. , bangene emahlathini kwaye bancede ukuba badibanise kwakhona kunye nomhlaba wendalo ukuze bancede ngethemba lokunceda kwezinye, nokuba zizifo ezinzulu zempilo yengqondo okanye uhlobo oluthile lwengqondo jikelele ye-malaise ebesithetha ngayo ngaphambili.

Kwaye batyala imali eninzi kurhulumente, hayi de baqeqeshe abo bafana, kodwa baphinde benza iipaki ezinganxibanga zihlangu apho abantu, unokuthi ucofe, unganxibanga zihlangu ehlathini, ezi ndlela zintle zokunyuka onokuthi uzilandele, kuba beyibonile loo nto, uyazi. , ukuchitha ixesha emahlathini, kunciphisa amanqanaba e-cortisol, kunciphisa ukuxhalaba. Kukho nophononongo olubonisa ukuba eneneni yonyusa into ebizwa ngokuba ziiseli ezibulalayo zendalo, ezibaluleke kakhulu emizimbeni yethu ukulwa nezinto ezinjengomhlaza. Uyazi, asinazo ezi nguquko zemo kuphela, kodwa utshintsho lomzimba olwenzekayo kuthi xa sikufutshane nemithi emahlathini. Yiyo, yiyo.

[00:13:15] UJackie De Burca: Yinto eneneni ukuba yinto ecacileyo yeeseli ezibulalayo zendalo. Uyazi, ndicinga ukuba loo nto ngokwayo yanele.

Lulwazi olwaneleyo kum, uyazi, ukuba ndiguqulwe, ukuba andizange ndiguqulwe. Kwanele, akunjalo? Uyazi, xa ucinga ngazo zonke izifo ezoyikekayo onokuthi ubenako, uyazi, ukuthintela ngokuba neeseli ezibulalayo zendalo, kuyamangalisa.

Nadina, sixelele ngezo zikhokelo zonyango zamahlathi ezaziqeqeshwe eChico State.

[00:13:49] UGqr Nadina Galle: Ewe, yayiyimeko enomdla ngokwenene leyo isifundo kuba iChico State okanye iYunivesithi yaseCalifornia nayo yaziwa ngokubanzi. Ihlala kwidolophu yaseChico, kwaye iChico ikufuphi nekona ukusuka eParadesi. Ngoko apho enye yeyona nto ibuhlungu kakhulu zendle yenzeke kwimbali yase-US, kwaye ihleli kwi-Dab embindini womlilo wasendle, ilizwe. Kwaye oku kube ngokwenene, ngokwenene.

Ndiyathetha, ngenxa yokungabikho kwegama elingcono, elinomdla. Kuba into onayo ikhona, unolu luntu, ezi zihlwele zikhulu zabantu abonzakele ngokupheleleyo yinto ebebejongene nayo. Imililo yamadlelo eye yatyhutyha ilizwe labo, kwimihlaba yabo, kumakhaya abo, yaye kwezona meko zimbi, abo babathandayo. Kwaye kusandul’ ukuba yintlekele kwaye kuhlasimlisa umzimba. Uninzi lwezi, zinxulumene, ngokwenene, abasindileyo kwimililo yasendle. Banemilinganiselo ye-PTSD kumanqanaba afanayo onokuthi ulindele kumagqala abuya emfazweni. Uyazi, oku kudandathekisa kakhulu. Kwaye into engaqhelekanga kukuba le nto ibangele lo mlilo, indalo ngokwayo, akunjalo? Mhlawumbi intlantsi ayizange ibangwe yindalo, kodwa ubuninzi bokukhula kohlaza, uyazi, kubangela uburhalarhume bayo, indlela eyaba yintlekele ngayo, loo nto. Loo ndalo ngokwayo, uhlobo lwe. Umphembeleli walo mlilo wasendle, ngethemba naye unokuba yindawo yokuphilisa naba bantu. Kwaye ndicinga ukuba kunjalo. Yiloo nto. Nantso into. Yintoni eyenza le nto. Ezi. I uqeqesho yezikhokelo ze-ecotherapy eChico State umdla kakhulu. Ndaye ndafumana ithuba lokuthetha nomnye wabo ogama linguBlake Ellis. Kwaye yena, kunye nabanye abasebenzi bezempilo yengqondo abali-14 basekuhlaleni, baqeqeshelwa ukuba ngabakhokeli abaqinisekisiweyo be-ecotherapy. Kwaye eyona njongo yayikukunikezela intuthuzelo kolu luntu luchatshazelwe yimililo yasendle. Kwaye xa uBlake wayendixelela ngenye yezi seshoni, wayethetha ukuba into enomdla kakhulu kukuba okokuqala, abaninzi babo babekwazi ukubona imithi kunye nale mithi ephantsi kunye ne-debris eshiywe, kungekhona njengesikhumbuzo kunye nesimboli sokufa kunye nokubola, kodwa ngokwenene njengethuba kunye nethemba lekamva. Kwaye ndicinga ukuba yeyona nto ifana nale intle sinethemba lokuba sinokubuyela emva kwezinye iinkalo ezinomdla zobomi bethu. Kwaye enye yezinto azithethileyo uBlake ukuba inamathele kum kukuba, uyazi, ugcina. Wayesithi xa endixelela ngezi zinto, uyazi, ndinguye. Ndingumkhokeli nje. Lihlathi elingumnyangi. Kwaye oko kukuthi, ndiyacinga, into esembindini we-ecotherapy kunye nonyango lwamahlathi kukubona ihlathi njengonyango olunjalo, kwaye aba bantu bazizikhokelo eziqinisekisiweyo, ngabaququzeleli abanokukunceda ukuba uhambe. Kwaye kukho imithambo emininzi eyahlukeneyo. Uyazi, ngamanye amaxesha uhlala kwaye ucamngca kwindawo yehlathi. Maxa wambi iwuwola ngokoqobo umthi ize idibane neminye yawo. Uyalwazi utshintsho lwefiziyoloji olunokwenzeka kumzimba wakho. Ngamanye amaxesha kuthatha uhambo oluthe cwaka, ngamanye amaxesha kuba neseshini yakho yonyango, kodwa uhamba ehlathini njengoko uyenza. Ke zininzi iindlela ezahlukeneyo zokuhlanjwa kwehlathi kunye nonyango lwehlathi olunokuthi lwenzeke, kodwa injongo kukuba le ndawo, ihlathi, ibonelela ngenene iindlela zokuphiliswa okuninzi.

[00:17:16] UJackie De Burca: Ndiyayithanda inyani, njengoko usitsho, Nadina, ukuba lihlathi eliyingcaphephe. Kwaye ndicinga ukuba kubalulekile, uyazi, kungekuphela kwabo baye kunyango, kodwa nakwingqiqo yalo naluphi na unyango konke konke. Uyazi, kwakhona, yi-ego yomntu ukuba ifana, oh, i-therapist yenza le, leya kunye nezinye kum okanye nabani na. Kodwa eneneni, ekupheleni kosuku, ugqirha ufana nomjelo kuphela, uyazi, sisixhobo. Loo mntu sisixhobo ekuncedeni imeko yokuphilisa. Ke ngoko, ukubona ihlathi njengonyango, ndicinga ukuba ngokwalo kuphilisa nje, ndiyacinga.

[00:17:54] UGqr Nadina Galle: Ewe. Kwaye ndicinga ukuba kufuneka. Kukwabalulekile ukukhumbuza abaphulaphuli apha, kukuba sithetha ngonyango lwamahlathi, sithetha nge-ecotherapy, kodwa akunyanzelekanga ukuba ibe sehlathini. Kakade ke, oko kungcono. Kodwa uBlake wayekuthanda ukundixelela eli bali ngotitshala wakhe owamfundisa ukuba ngumkhokeli. Uthanda ukuxelela eli bali ukuba ngenene wenza iseshoni eyimpumelelo, iseshoni yonyango olunyanzelweyo, phakathi kwe Yokupaka iqashiso phantsi komthunzi womthi omnye. Ngoko kunokwenzeka kakhulu ukwenza oku ngomthi omnye, naphakathi kwendawo yokupaka, unokuba nolu xhulumaniso kwindalo. Kwaye ndiyacinga, kwakhona, uhlobo lokubuyisela isizathu sokuba indalo yasezidolophini ibaluleke kakhulu kwaye kutheni kufuneka silumke singayibhali indalo yasezidolophini njengengacaphuliyo, i-unquote, indalo yokwenyani okanye indalo esebenzayo kwezi ntlobo zezinto. Uninzi lwezi seshoni zinokuthatha inxaxheba kwiindawo zokupaka ngemithi enye, ukuba unyanzelekile ukuba wenze njalo. Kodwa ngenye indlela, ngasemva, iipaki zasezidolophini, izitiya manicured, uyazi, apho, okoko nje ukuba uhlobo oluthile setting yendalo, okunene ungaqala ukuziva ezininzi ezi nzuzo, uyazi, kwaye ukuba unako ukufikelela ihlathi elidala ukukhula entle, ngokuqinisekileyo ukusingatha iseshoni yakho apho. Kodwa nokuba ayinakwenzeka loo nto, usenako ukuziva uhlobo olufanayo lwesiseko esinokuthi ezinye iindawo zikwazi ukubonelela.

[00:19:12] UJackie De Burca: Ke, ewe, ndicinga ukuba licebiso eliqaqambileyo elo. Uyazi, ukuba sijonga nje, khupha igama elithi ihlathi, indalo kuphela yingcali. Kwaye naphi na apho sinokuyifumana khona, uyazi, iNcinci encinci yendalo. Ukuba yinto encinci kuphela, kulungile kwakhona. Ngoko ke ndicinga ukuba licebiso elihle elo.

Unemizekelo enomdla ngokwenene oye wayibonisa kule ndawo yencwadi. Ungathetha nathi ngezinye zazo, Nadina?

[00:19:40] UGqr Nadina Galle: Ewe, zikho.

Kukho inani labo. Kwaye enye yeyona nto ndiyithandayo yile mbono yokuba imithi, ngolu hlobo lukhethekileyo lwetekhnoloji ebizwa ngokuba yi-geolocated sound, inokuthetha nathi ngokwenene.

Yayiyiprojekthi yomlawuli wethiyetha uPuk van Dijk kumantla eAmsterdam. I-Amsterdam emantla yile ndawo ikhula ngokukhawuleza endicinga ukuba uninzi lwezixeko zemizi-mveliso zinokunxulumana nayo. Yindawo ejongene nayo ngokwenene, uyazi, utshintsho oluxhaphakileyo, ukuguqulwa, ukusetyenziswa kweziyobisi, ukutyhala abantu abathile, ukutyhala kwidemografi entsha, ukujongana, ngelishwa, ukugawulwa kwamahlathi okuninzi ukwenza indlela yolu phuhliso oluninzi. Kwaye uBuch van Dyck wafudukela kule ngingqi emva kokuba ekhule kakhulu, ehlala kwihlabathi liphela. Kwaye xa wayenomntwana ongowakhe, wayefuna ukuzinza ngakumbi. Kwaye wajonga uzinzo kubamelwane bakhe bemithi, iiginkgos, uthuthu, i-oki, iimaphu awabelana ngazo nommelwane wakhe omtsha. Wayekhuthazwe ngokwenene ngabo yaye wayefuna ukubaqonda ngakumbi abamelwane bakhe. Ngoko waqalisa ukuba nodliwano-ndlebe nabanye abamelwane bakhe abangabantu kwaye waqala ukubona izinto ezininzi ezifanayo, akunjalo? Wayeza kuthetha nommelwane omtsha owayengumakhi womzimba odla umhlala-phantsi, kwaye wayekhalaza ngento yokuba lo hola wendlela wandisiweyo wawubangela ukuba isifo sombefu sakhe sibe mandundu ngakumbi. Kwaye wayejongene nemiba emininzi. Kwaye wayezibuza, wayenje, ndiyazibuza ukuba imithi etyalwe ngokulandelayo, uhola wendlela ujongene nemiba efanayo. Uthethe nomnye ummelwane owakhalaza ngendlela abenesithukuthezi ngayo, ngakumbi ngexesha lobhubhani kwaye emva koko, waphoswa zezi ntetho nabamelwane bakhe abaninzi emva kokuba beswelekile. Kwaye wawubona lo mthi kumbindi wesikwere owawuwodwa. Kwaye wayefana, ndiyazibuza ukuba loo mthi ujongana nobulolo ngendlela efanayo abantu abanokunxibelelana nayo. Ibali elide elifutshane, udale olu khenketho lweaudio yokuntywila kule mithi mithandathu ithethayo. Wayibiza ngokuba ziZigebenga zaseMantla. Kwaye wakwazi ukusebenzisa okuninzi kolu dliwano-ndlebe awayelwenzile nabamelwane abangabantu nokuguqulela amabali abo kule mithi. Kwaye ngokwenene wasebenzisa abadlali belizwi lendawo, abadlali abavela e-Amsterdam emantla, ukubeka ekudaleni abalinganiswa kwaye babeke la mazwi kule mithi. Kwaye khange isebenze njengokhenketho oluqhelekileyo lweaudio apho kuya kufuneka uskene ikhowudi ye-QR ngalo lonke ixesha ukwindawo entsha yokumisa, ukwazile ukucofa ukudlala, qhubeka kolu hambo. Kwaye iigps, indawo yakho yeGPS iya kukukhokelela ekunene okanye ekhohlo ngokusekelwe apho ubukhona. Kwaye ukuba ukufutshane ngokwaneleyo komnye wemithi, ngenene ingaqala ukuthetha nawe. Kwaye oku kuthetha nje amava antywilayo kuba, umzekelo, kulo mthi wawujongene nobuninzi bezinto. ngco liseko, yaqalisa ukukhohlela ungekayiboni nokuyibona. Ubuqala ukuva le nto yokukhohlela, ujike ujike ikona nanku umthi olapha ecaleni kwendlela, ujongana nale miba. Kwaye ndiye ndacinga ukuba ngumzekelo omangalisayo, ngendlela eyiyo ngokwenene, ukubonisa abantu basezidolophini ubunzima bemithi yesixeko kunye nento abajongene nayo kwaye kwangaxeshanye babonelele abantu ukuba, ewe, abaqhelekanga ukuba nalo olo hlobo. Olo nxibelelwano, olo nxibelelwano nemithi ukuze lukwazi ukunxulumana nabo ngakumbi. Kwaye ndicinga ukuba yinto ebaluleke kakhulu esikhe sayichukumisa kwixesha elidlulileyo. Okukhona ukwazi ukuqonda nokunxulumana nento, kokukhona ukwazi ukuyikhathalela kwaye ekugqibeleni uyikhusele nayo.

Kwaye njengoko ndibhala encwadini, olu khenketho lube yimpumelelo kangangokuba basebenza ukulenza ukufakwa okusisigxina. Kwaye eneneni, umcwangcisi oyintloko wedolophu yaseAmsterdam uthathe iGiants of North audio tour njengento enyanzelekileyo ukumamela wonke umntu kwisebe lakhe.

[00:23:30] UJackie De Burca: Libali elimnandi kakhulu kwaye andikabikho. Andizange ndiye e-Amsterdam ixesha elide kakhulu, kodwa ngokwenene, indenza ndicinge ukuba kufuneka ndibuyele e-Amsterdam ngokuqinisekileyo nje ukuva imithi ikhuluma.

[00:23:42] UGqr Nadina Galle: Ngelishwa, imithi ithetha kuphela isiDatshi okwangoku, ke kuya kufuneka wenze kancinci. Kodwa ndingathanda. Ndatsho ngoko nangoko loo ncwadi. Ndandifana, kufuneka ufumane inguqulelo eguqulelwe kule kuba oku kuya kuba. Kukwafana nje, ndithethile neetoliki ukuze abantu babe nomsebenzi wabo, uyazi, nokuba basebenzela iipaki zesizwe okanye imyuziyam, umsebenzi wabo kukuguqulela, uyazi, ukusasaza ulwazi kunye nolwazi kuluntu jikelele. Inokuba yimbali, inokuba yimbali yendalo, zonke iintlobo zezinto ezahlukeneyo. Ndandifana, le yindlela entle kakhulu yokwenza utoliko. Njengokuba, iphindaphindeka. Njenge, ndingathanda ukubona into enje kuyo yonke idolophu kwihlabathi jikelele, nje, nanjengomtsalane wabakhenkethi. Ndicinga ukuba ngumbono opholileyo.

[00:24:23] UJackie De Burca: Ndicinga ukuba ngumbono opholileyo ngokwenene. Ndiyathetha, ndiyacinga. Ukucinga ngokuvakalayo, ngokwenene, Nadina, ndicinga ukuba loo mithi, njengesixeko sam lokuzalwa Dublin, uyazi, loo mithi isecaleni komjelo eDublin. Ngokuqinisekileyo abanakuxela kuphela amava abo okutshintsha, uyazi, utshintsho lwezinto ezibonakalayo kunye nemiboniso kunye ne-vibes yaseDublin kule minyaka idlulileyo, uyazi, kumashumi eminyaka okanye nantoni na. Ke banokuthi mhlawumbi bachaze njengaye, eyabo, uyazi, ndiyahambelana njengomthi, kodwa ndinike, njengokuba, iindwendwe intwana yembali yaloo ndawo ngaxeshanye.

[00:24:56] UGqr Nadina Galle: Owu, ewe. Ewe. Kwaye ngenene lo ngumbhalo ochazayo wezigebenga zasentla eneneni uyaqala, ndiyakholwa ukuba iqala, owu, izinto ezibonwe zizigebenga zethu. Kuba ukuba ucingela le mithi emidala kwaye emva koko bathetha ngayo, uyazi, isibini esixabanayo, ukungqubana kweVespa kunye nebhayisekile ngentsimbi yesithathu ekuseni, uyazi, umntwana ukhwela kuyo, uyazi, zonke ezi zinto zahlukeneyo. imbali. Ndithetha ukuba, ukuba sinethamsanqa, sinemithi ezixekweni zethu, uyazi, abathetheli-khulu, abangaphezu kwe-150, 200 yeminyaka ubudala. Ndithetha ukuthi, le mithi yayikhona ngaphambi kokuba sizalwe kwaye sinethemba lokuba siya kuba khona emva kwexesha elide singekho.

[00:25:34] UJackie De Burca: Ngethemba. Ngethemba. Kodwa ngumbono omangalisayo kwaye ngethemba, njengoko usitsho, iya kusasazeka, uyazi, kuba iqaqambile ngokupheleleyo.

Ukuya eMelbourne, Ostreliya, kukho kwakhona i-imeyile, iphulo lomthi. Isebenza njani loo nto?

. Ayizange iqale ngendlela evakala ngayo. Enyanisweni, yaqala. Yonke le nto yaqala ngoYvonne Lynch. Wayeyintloko ye-Urban Forester kunye ne-Urban Forestry kunye I-Ecology yaseDolophini iqela leSixeko saseMelbourne. Kanti into ebesokola nayo kukuba yonke imihla ebefumana ii-emails, ebefowunelwa, emane emiswa esitratweni, oogxa bakhe bama esitratweni ukuze baphendule imibuzo yemithi kwindawo ezihlala abantu. Kunjalo, ngolu hlobo.

Lo mthi ukhangeleka ngathi uyagula. Uza kuyijonga nini? Ugawulwa nini lo mthi? Uyowujonga nini umonakalo kulomthi? Le, uyazi, intambo yombane isondele kakhulu kumasebe alo mthi. Yonke le, uyazi, imibuzo, ungade ubize izikhalazo ngamanye amaxesha zazingena ngokungafaniyo. Kwaye owokuqala, uyazi, umbuzo oya kuhlala unika impendulo kuwo, ke, ngowuphi umthi? Kwaye emva koko ingalandela le ncoko iphoxayo ngokumangalisayo, kulungile, ingaphaya kwale dilesi, kodwa ayingomthi, ngulomthi. Uyazi, ngummi. Basenokungazazi iindidi zomthi. Ngoko babeza kwenza konke okusemandleni abo ukuyichaza. Uyazi, yile inesiqu kunye namagqabi kwaye, uyazi, ibiyimeko ekhathazayo kakhulu, ekhathaza kakhulu kuYvonne neqela lakhe.

Ke into ayenzileyo kukulinge inkqubo yokufumana inombolo yesazisi ngomthi ngamnye, ababesele benayo. Kodwa isibini loo nombolo yesazisi ukuya. Kwidilesi ye-imeyile ukuze inombolo yesazisi, umthi ngamnye ngoku unedilesi ye-imeyile. Ukuze loo nombolo yesazisi ifumaneke kwimephu. Ungasondeza, ungawufumana umthi, kwaye emva koko unokubona ngoko nangoko idilesi ye-imeyile, kwaye ungathumela nge-imeyile umbuzo wakho malunga nomthi othile kwidilesi ye-imeyile ethile. Kwaye oko kwasebenza kakuhle njengesixhobo solawulo de uYvonne waqalisa ukuqaphela into engaqhelekanga, eyayikukuba wayengafumani zikhalazo nemibuzo malunga nokugcinwa komthi kwibhokisi yakhe yangaphakathi, kodwa wayethunyelwa iileta zothando emithini.

Babefumana zonke iintlobo zamanqaku ahlukeneyo othando. Uyazi, izinto ezithi, Sithandwa 10087898, bendihlala ndijonge amasebe akho kunye namagqabi akho kwifestile yam. Ndihleli phantsi komthunzi wakho. Uyazi, undinike intuthuzelo ngamaxesha obunzima bokwenene ebomini bam. Yazi, ngokwenene buqu, nzulu, uyazi, uvumo lwezono nangamandla kunye nentuthuzelo abayifumana kule mithi.

Uyazi, abanye babeziintloni kwaye behlekisa, uyazi, besithi bona, uyazi, babethandana nalo mthi, kodwa, uyazi, bathandana nalo mnye umthi. Yaye ngaba oku kugqalwa njengokrexezo lomthi? Uyazi, kwakunjalo. Yahamba yonke indlela. Kwaye ngaxa lithile, uyazi, ekuqaleni, babephendula kuba babecinga ukuba iyinto ehlekisayo, kwaye babephendula ngokungathi bangumthi. UYvonne neqela lakhe. Kodwa ngaxa lithile, yasuka yaphuma esandleni kuba ayizange ivele, uyazi, yahamba yintsholongwane ngaphakathi eMelbourne, kodwa emva koko yaya kwintsholongwane eOstreliya, emva koko yasasazeka kwihlabathi liphela. Ke bekukho ezi dilesi ze-imeyile zisekwe kweminye imithi kwizixeko zehlabathi jikelele ezazithumela i-imeyile kwimithi eseMelbourne, bethumela i-imeyile kubazala babo kunye nabahlobo babo kwihlabathi liphela. Kwaye nje, ngathi, ngokupheleleyo, ibonkers ngokupheleleyo. Kwaye kwakunjalo nje. Nangona, uyazi, ubungangamsha bayo, yayingumzekelo omhle kangangokuba, uyazi, kukho oku, ndiyakholelwa, uthando lwangaphakathi kunye nothando lwemithi esabelana ngayo nezixeko zethu.

Kodwa ayizange ibe nayo indlela yokuphuma kude kube ngoku. Kwaye into endiyithanda kakhulu ngayo kukuba iphindaphindeka kwaye iya kuba njalo. Yindlela entle yokubonisa olo thando nothando olukhoyo lwemithi. Kwaye ndihlala ndisithi kuYvonne, bendifana, kufuneka, uyazi, wenze ukuthanda kakhulu, kwaye uyipapashe kwincwadi eneefoto ezintle zale mithi yahlukeneyo kunye nezi leta zothando. Kuba libali elihle nje.

[00:29:47] UJackie De Burca: Libali elihle ngokwenene. Injalo ngokwenene. Ngoku siqhubela phambili kwitekhnoloji esetyenziswa yi-US White House kunye nokutyalwa kwemithi okungenzi nzuzo ukulungisa iyantlukwano kwezempilo. Yaziwa ngokuba ngamanqaku eNdalo. Ungathetha nathi ngayo, Nadina?

[00:30:06] UGqr Nadina Galle: Ngokuqinisekileyo, ewe. Ke iNature Score yahluke kakhulu kwinto, uyazi, iingcali eziye zayenza ngaphambili, oomasipala baye bayenza ngaphambili, eyenza uvavanyo lohlaza onalo esixekweni. Ngoko kwixesha elidlulileyo oku kwakusenziwa ngokujonga into ebizwa ngokuba yi-NDVI okanye i-Normalized Difference Vegetation Index. Kwaye oko kusebenze kakuhle kakhulu, kodwa kusebenze kakuhle ukwenza into enye ebonisa uhlaza esixekweni. Kodwa ngoku siyazi ukuba impilo, ukuba nelelo ze zempilo esisifumana kwindalo asikohlaza nje. Ngapha koko, ikwavela ngendlela yamanzi, amanxweme, amabala avulekileyo, amahlathi. Uyazi, zonke ezi zinto zahlukeneyo zendalo zidlala indima yethu, kwimpilo yethu. Kwaye kolu hlalutyo lwe-NDVI, izinto ezifana nesanti kunye namatye kunye namanzi zifumana amanqaku ka-zero kuba azikho luhlaza. Kwaye siyazi ngoku kuphando ukuba ezi ndawo zibonelela ngezibonelelo zempilo. Ngoko iNqaku leNdalo laphuhliswa njengenye indlela kuloo nto. Yaphuhliswa ngokuqalwa e-Oregon ebizwa ngokuba yiNatureQuant. Kwaye ungayiva ngegama. Umsebenzi wabo kukulinganisa indalo. Kwaye isizathu sokuba bafune ukwenza oko kungenxa yokuba bakholelwa ngentliziyo epheleleyo ukuba ukuba sinokunika indalo inani, siya kuba ngcono xa sizama ukufumana utyalo-mali lwayo kwaye siyifumane kwaye siyilwele ngokwenene indawo yayo efanelekileyo, ngakumbi iindawo zasedolophini. Ke iNqaku leNdalo, eyona nto iyenzayo kukuba ungakhetha nayiphi na idilesi engatshintshiyo naphi na eCanada nase-US kwaye basebenza eYurophu ngeli xesha, kwaye ungafumana amanqaku akho eNdalo. Ke ngokusisiseko oko kuthatha, kuthatha iradius yeemitha ezingama-500 ukusuka kufutshane nendlu yakho. Lo ngumgama esiwaziyo kuphando ukuba indalo iya kuba nefuthe kwimpilo yakho uhlala kuloo dilesi ethile kuloo ndawo. Kwaye ikunika amanqaku. Uyazi, i-100 kukuba, uyazi, uphakathi kwehlathi, uyazi, oko kukuthi, ukwindawo etyebileyo yendalo. 80 ukuya 100, uyazi, 60, 60 ukuya 80 yinto ebizwa indalo ngokwaneleyo. Ize ke ingene kwindalo, andiyazi ephakathi. Kwaye ke ingena kumkhwa wakho, intsilelo yendalo, okanye ukwindawo enengxaki yendalo.

Kwaye konke oku kuthathelwa ingqalelo ngamaqela amaninzi awohlukeneyo. Ibinomdla kakhulu ukuba ngubani oqalise ukusebenzisa le mephu. Ekuqaleni, uyazi, i-NatureQuant yayicinga ukuba iza kusetyenziselwa izinto ezifana noomasipala, njengokuthatha isigqibo sokuba ungenelelo lwendalo kufuneka lwenzeke phi kwaye uzama ukuza nendlela elinganayo yokusasaza ezo zixhobo, uyazi, kunokuba usasaze nje, uyazi, uhlaza ngakumbi kwiindawo ukuba loudest, nto leyo ekholisa ukuba kwakhona abamelwane abatyebileyo ngakumbi ngenxa yokuba ixesha elininzi ezandleni zabo ukuze bakwazi ukukhalaza ngezinto, ngokwenene ukusasaza ezo zibonelelo ukuba. ezinye zeendawo ezihlala zixhamle ngokwentlalo noqoqosho kunye neendawo ezinqongopheleyo zendalo. Kwaye leyo iseyenye yeemeko zokusetyenziswa. Kodwa into endicinga ukuba nayo ibe nomdla kukuba iyaqala ukusetyenziswa ngabanini beinshorensi, iinshorensi zempilo. Ke ngoku ujonge, uyazi, ukuba uhlala kwindawo etyebileyo kwindalo, siyazi ukuba ngenene uya kuba nemiba yezempilo encinci. Ke ezinye zeinshorensi zempilo ezivelisa izinto ezintsha ezijongileyo, ngaba singakwazi ngokwenene ukunceda abantu abahlala kwiindawo ezityebileyo zendalo, ngaba bangakwazi ukuhlawula isavenge se-inshorensi ephantsi? Yeyiphi eyona ndlela inika umdla yokuthanda, ukukhuthaza ngakumbi utyalo-mali kwindalo kwezinye zezi ndawo zisezantsi kwezoqoqosho, ezixhamlileyo, ezihlelelekileyo ingaba singenza ezo zinto zilingane nangakumbi? Utyalo-mali kummelwane kuhlaza lobumelwane kukwathetha ukuhlawula kancinci kwi-inshurensi yakho. Ndikhe ndeva amabali asetyenziswa ngabaphathi bamapolisa bezama ukuqonda amakhonkco phakathi kwendalo kwizixeko zabo kunye nolwaphulo-mthetho kuzo, kwizixeko zabo, apho kukho amakhonkco anomdla ngokwenene kwaye hayi ii-causations, kodwa ulungelelwaniso ungalufumana nalapho. Kwaye ke sibona amaziko amakhulu karhulumente njengolawulo lwe-White House, kodwa ezinkulu, ezinkulu ezingenzi nzuzo njengesiseko soSuku lwe-Arbor, owaziyo ukuba sesinye semibutho enkulu yokutyala imithi emhlabeni, eneneni sebenzisa imephu yendalo yesikwere ukwenza isigqibo. apho kufuneka batyale kwaye benze olu ngenelelo lohlaza. Kuba siyazi kuphando ukuba ulunge ngakumbi ukutyala umthi omnye kwisitrato esingenawo, ngokuchasene nokutyala umthi owongezelelweyo kwisitrato esele sinenqwaba. Ulungile, uzakufumana ezinye izibonelelo ezininzi, nokuba zinxulumene nemozulu okanye impilo kunye nempilo enxulumene nomthi omnye. Ke ndicinga ukuba yimeko yokusetyenziswa enomdla. Kodwa ndicinga okona kubaluleke kakhulu, kukujonga indalo ngokwembono eyahlukileyo. Kujongwe kwindalo ngokusulungekileyo kwizinto zendalo ezixhasa impilo kwaye zithatha izigqibo zomgaqo-nkqubo wethu ezisekelwe kolo lwazi?

[00:35:14] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, inkulu kakhulu. Ngokucacileyo, ukuba ezinye zee-inshurensi ziyayithathela ingqalelo, loo nto inkulu.

Enye into eyandichukumisa ngokwenene kukuba namachibi ayenokusigcina siphila ixesha elide. Ndiyifumanisa imangalisa kakhulu, njengoko ndenze i-app yokumisela. Ngoku ngubani owadala le nto kwaye yenza ntoni?

. Kwaye ngokusisiseko indlela esebenza ngayo lusetyenziso olusebenza ngasemva kwifowuni yakho. Ke ayisiyiyo iapp eyenzelwe ukuba uncanyathiselwe kwiscreen. Isebenza ngasemva kwifowuni yakho njenge-pedometer okanye i-Fitbit okanye i-counter counter iya kuba kwifowuni yakho. Kwaye eyona nto iyenzayo kukusebenzisa indawo ye-GPS kule mephu yeNqaku leNdalo, iyadibanisa ukuze ingabambeleli kwidatha yendawo yakho, kodwa ngokusisiseko ihlanganisa yonke imihla ukuba mingaphi imizuzu ubungaphakathi, mingaphi imizuzu onayo. babengaphandle, kwaye mingaphi imizuzu oye waboniswa indalo yaloo mizuzu ngaphandle.

Kwaye eyona nto iyenzayo kukubonelela nge-nudge, ngethemba lokuphuma ngaphandle ngakumbi, njengokuba uFitbit ebenokwenza, ukukunceda ukuba ufikelele kwinqanaba le-10,000 lenqaku ngosuku.

I-Nature Dose, olona phando sinalo, lubonisa ukuba sifuna ubuncinane bemizuzu eyi-120, iiyure ezimbini ezivezwe kwindalo nganye ngeveki enye. Ngoko ke yi-avareji yento, efana ne-17, imizuzu engama-20 ngosuku, ikufumana kobo buncinci, ngoko ke kukukhahlela ukuba uphume phandle utyhileke kwindalo ubuncinci imizuzu engama-20 ngosuku. Ke kunjalo inemephu yendalo yesikweri, enegranular kakhulu, ekwaziyo ukubonisa, uyazi, uyathanda, ufumana inqaku elipheleleyo lokuba phakathi kwehlathi, ufumana isiqingatha senqaku lokuba kwi. isitalato esinemithi eninzi. Kwaye ufumana amanqaku angu-zero ukuba umi phakathi kwendawo yokupaka. Kwaye loo mahluko phakathi kwexesha langaphandle kunye nexesha elivezwe kwindalo.

Kwaye kwinqanaba lakho, uJackie, iilwandle kunye namachibi nawo afumana amanqaku aphezulu kuba siyazi kuphando ukuba ezo zinto zixhasa impilo kakhulu. Kwaye ke umbuzo uba, kulungile, ke, uyazi, singayisebenzisa njani le app? Sinokuyidibanisa njani le nto? Ndicinga ukuba kwabanye abantu kuya kuvakala ukothusa kancinci ukuba ngoku sifuna i-app yokusixelela ukuba siphume ngaphandle. Kwaye ndingatsho kubantu apho kuvakala khona ukothusa, mhlawumbi awuyidingi, akunjalo? Mhlawumbi yinto ebaluleke kakhulu kwimikhwa yakho yemihla ngemihla kangangokuba awuyidingi into efana neDose yeNdalo. Kodwa ndingatsho ukuba kukho uninzi lwabantu abalufunayo olu hambo lokuya ngaphandle, olufana nokuba bafuna i-nudge ukuthatha amanyathelo ali-10,000 ngosuku. I ukubaluleka yeNdalo yeDose ayikona nje malunga nokuba mangaphi amanyathelo owathatha yonke imihla. Kukwamalunga nokuba uwathatha phi loo manyathelo ngosuku. Kwaye oku kukukhuthaza ngethemba lokuthatha loo manyathelo kwindawo yendalo ukuze sizuze ngokwenene kuzo zonke iingenelo ezintle esizifumana kwindalo. Kodwa ndibona iimeko ezinokuthi zisetyenziswe apha. Umzekelo, njengentsebenziswano, umzekelo, nogqirha wakho wezempilo yengqondo. Ndithetha ngophononongo olukwincwadi apho usebenzisa iSithamo seNdalo njengophawu lwesilumkiso, ngokuqhelekileyo kwabo bakwishumi elivisayo abajongene noxinzelelo olukhulu kunye nesifo sengqondo esiqatha njengophawu lwesilumkiso sokuba olo lwazi abanalo. Bebengaphandle kwi-X isixa seentsuku sithunyelwa kugqirha wabo wezempilo yengqondo ukuze bazi ukuba kufuneka benze uhlolo olongezelelweyo kunye nokuhlolwa kwentlalontle kwabo bantu, ewe, banokuziva bemkhulu kwabanye. Kodwa sithetha ngolutsha olukwishumi elivisayo olujongene nesifo esiqatha sempilo yengqondo. Sifuna ukuqinisekisa ukuba bafumana uncedo olubafaneleyo. Enye imeko yokusetyenziswa ngokwenene yeyamaqabane amakhulu. Kunene? Kweli xesha lokusebenzela kude nokusebenza ngohlobo lwale fashoni ingumxube, ngaba ngenene singabakhuthaza abasebenzi ukuba baphumele ngaphandle, bathathe iintlanganiso zokuhamba, baphume ngaphandle ngexesha lesidlo sasemini kwiindawo zendalo? Kuba siyazi ukuba abo basebenzi baya kuba nemveliso ngakumbi, bathathe iintsuku ezimbalwa zokugula, kwaye babe neempawu ezimbalwa zokudinwa. Ke ndicinga ukuba sikwincam yokuqonda ukuba singakwazi njani ukusebenzisa le nto. Ndicinga ukuba zininzi iimeko zokusetyenziswa ezinomdla. Kwaye ekugqibeleni, ndicinga elona themba lam likhulu, kwaye ndiyathetha ngayo nakwi-epilogue yencwadi, kukuba usetyenziso olunje luya kuphelelwa ngenye imini. Enyanisweni, ndiyathemba ukuba bayakwenza kuba siya kuba sidale.

Siya kuba sidale iimeko zasedolophini kunye neemeko zasedolophini ezityebe kakhulu ngokwendalo kangangokuba akufuneki sicinge kabini malunga nokufumana amanyathelo ethu angama-10,000 ngosuku okanye imizuzu yethu engama-20 okanye iyure yendalo ngosuku, kuba kuya kuba njalo. sigxile kwimikhwa yethu yemihla ngemihla kunye nendlela esiqhuba ngayo kubomi bethu bemihla ngemihla.

[00:39:56] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, ndiyathetha, uvuselela ingcamango yam kwakhona kuba ndikwiphepha elifanayo nawe ngaloo ndlela, kuba ndinombono obonakalayo wokungabi kude kakhulu emgceni, wena. yazi, iindawo zasezidolophini esithetha ngazo ziya kuba mnandi kakhulu. Kwaye ndicinga kwaye ndiyathemba ukuba abantu abahlala kwezo ndawo kwixesha elizayo elingekude kakhulu baya kujonga emva kwimbali baze bahambe, owu, Thixo wam, njengokuba abantu babehlala njani kula mahlathi ekhonkrithi ngaphambili?

[00:40:26] UGqr Nadina Galle: Ewe, ewe, kanye. Ndicinga ukuba into enika umdla ngezixeko kukuba ndicinga ukuba abantu bayakhawuleza ukujonga emva kwindlela ezazifudula ziyiyo izixeko kwaye babi kakhulu ngendlela ezazifudula ziyiyo. Kodwa inyani yeyokuba izixeko ziluvavanyo oluyimpumelelo lwentlalo, Ziye ngokuqhubekayo zihlengahlengisa kwaye zibunjwe ukuba yintoni na iimfuno kunye neminqweno yabemi basezidolophini ngelo xesha. Kanye xa iinkqubo zogutyulo oludityanisiweyo zidityanisiwe, uyazi, yayiyihaleluya kuba izixeko zazijongene nemijelo evulekileyo yogutyulo kwimisele, ngokuqhambuka kwekholera. Uyazi, yayiyiyo, yayiyiyo, yayimdaka kwaye inuka kakubi kwaye iyoyikeka. Kwaye iinkqubo zogutyulo ezidityanisiweyo zibonelelwe, uyazi, uphuculo olukhulu kuloo nto. Ngoku sijonge iminyaka eli-100 ukuya phambili, sijonge kwezo nkqubo kwaye sifana, ngamaxesha emvula egqithileyo, ezo zinokuba zimbi ngokwenene, kuba sinokukhokelela ekudityanisweni komjelo wokuphuphuma kwamanzi amdaka, oko kukuthi, uyazi, ifuthe elibi kumgangatho wethu wamanzi kunye nowethu impilo yoluntu kunye nokhuseleko. Kulungile. Ke sijonge iindlela esinokuzisebenzisa ngakumbi izibonelelo eziluhlaza kwaye ngakumbi uhlobo amaqhinga esixeko isipontshi ukukwazi ukufunxa amanzi amaninzi emvula ukuze inkqubo edibeneyo yogutyulo kwiindawo apho, uyazi, ayinako ukwahlulwa kuba kubiza kakhulu kwaye kunzima kakhulu. Uyazi, siyakwazi ukufunxa amanzi amaninzi emvula ukuze inkqubo yogutyulo edibeneyo ibe phantsi. Uphantsi koxinzelelo oluncinci kwezo ndawo. Ndicinga ukuba kufuneka siqhubeke sijonga ukuba singaziqhelanisa njani kwaye sitshintshe njani kwiimfuno zabemi basezidolophini ngo-2024. Uyazi, kwakukho ixesha lokunyuka kwemoto eyayibonwa njengombhiyozo wokuba iindlela ezinkulu zibethe ngokukhawuleza. embindini wezixeko zethu. Sicinga ngokwahlukileyo ngoku. Siyabona, uyazi, sineencoko ezibalulekileyo malunga nokuba kuyavakala na ukumisela indawo eninzi kwiindlela kunye neendawo zokupaka. Kutheni le nto sinokuba nazo kwinqanaba elisezantsi? Kutheni singenako ukuzibeka ngaphantsi komhlaba? Kutheni singenakwenza izinto ezifana nokwabelana ngeemoto ukunciphisa uxinzelelo kumhlaba kwaye endaweni yoko sisebenzise loo ndawo kwindawo yoluntu kwaye ngokufanelekileyo sisebenzise ezo ndawo zibe luhlaza. Ke sihlala sijonge ekutshintsheni, uyazi, iimfuno kunye neemfuno zabemi bethu basezidolophini. Kwaye ngenene, kwinqanaba lakho, Jackie, ndicinga ukuba siza kujonga ngasemva kwaye sithi, singahlala njani kula mahlathi ekhonkrithi? Kwaye siza kukhangela phambili kwikamva kwaye sibone ngethemba indalo enethemba kakhulu, imeko-bume yedolophu etyebileyo eluncedo kakhulu kuwo wonke umba wobomi bomntu kunye nazo zonke ezinye iintlobo esabelana ngazo nezixeko zethu.

[00:42:54] UJackie De Burca: Ngokuqinisekileyo, ngokupheleleyo. Ke mna nawe sobabini siziva ngolo hlobo, nto leyo eqaqambileyo. Kodwa ngelishwa, baninzi abantu, ngakumbi abantu abancinci esibaziyo, uyazi, buqu kunye. Kwaye ngokusulungekileyo ngomsebenzi owenzayo kwaye nam ndiwenzayo, ongenalo ithemba ngekamva ngenxa yokuba, siya kuthi, utshintsho lwemozulu kunye eziphilayo ilahleko. Kwaye ihlabathi njengoko linjalo ngoku, le yinto enkulu kakhulu namhlanje kuba aba bantu zizizukulwana zethu ezizayo kwaye bakule meko. Ipesenti enkulu kubo, umzekelo, mhlawumbi, mhlawumbi uzama ukuzibulala. Kwaye njengoko ukhankanyile malunga nedosi yendalo, ewe, kubomi bomntu oselula, loo app ibaluleke kakhulu kuba ubuncinci nabani na onyanga ukudakumba kwakhe okanye nayiphi na ingxaki abajongene nayo uya kukwazi ukubona. Ke, khangela, uyazi, awuzange uphume kwindalo kangangeentsuku ezintlanu okanye enye into. Sisihloko esikhulu. Zithini izimvo zakho Gina?

. Kwaye ndicinga ukuba yinto enikezelwa yimimandla yendalo. Babonelela ngale ndawo yokuphefumla, ukubuyisela iingqondo zethu, ukufumana lula kwaye sinethemba lokufumana isiqabu kwezinye iintlungu esizivayo. Kwaye leyo yinto endikholelwa ukuba ibaluleke kakhulu, ngakumbi kwesi sigaba sexesha ukuxhalaba kwemozulu kunye nentshabalalo kunye nobumnyama, ukuqhubeka nokujonga ihlabathi lethu nge-lens yendalo kunye nokudala indalo eninzi, ukudala iindawo ezininzi zendalo, ukuba sisebenze kunye nendalo, ukudibanisa nendalo. Kuba ndiyakholelwa ukuba oko kuchaphazela inkalo nganye yobomi bethu, eyabazali bethu, oomakhulu nootatomkhulu bethu, kubantwana bethu, kunye. Kwaye kwabo baziva ngathi, kulungile, ngokuqinisekileyo, kulula ukutsho, kodwa yintoni ekufuneka ndiyenzile kwindlu yam kumgangatho wesithandathu? Ndine balcony kuphela. Ndingathi ibalcony isekhona. Nokuba yifestile kuphela, awukwazi ukuba ngubani ojonge phezulu kula balcony. Ukwenza uhlaza kuloo balcony sele kukubonelela ngetoni yeenzuzo kunye nabo nabaphi na abadlula ngendlela. Kodwa ndiyakumema ukuba ujonge ngokunzulu. Uchitha phi ixesha lakho elininzi. Ndiyakubheja mhlawumbi ayikho kulaa flethi. Isenokuba sendleleni ohamba ngayo. Isenokuba seofisini yakho. Isenokuba kwikhampasi yakho yeshishini, kwikhampasi yakho yaseyunivesithi, iSikolo somntwana wakho, indawo yakho yokholo, icawa yakho. Ezi zizo zonke iindawo kunye nezixeko ezithande ukuba kumhlaba wabucala ukuba ngokwenene sinolawulo oluninzi malunga nento esinokuyenza ukutshintsha ubuso bale mihlaba. Kwaye ndingakukhuthaza ukuba uzibandakanye nalo. Jonga izinto ezikungqongileyo, ngakumbi kumgama ozimitha ezingama-500 wendlu yakho. Cinga ngengingqi kwaye wenze nasekuhlaleni, kuba ekugqibeleni, ukuba wonke umntu wenze loo nto kumgama oziimitha ezingama-500 ukusuka kwikhaya labo, izixeko zethu zinokujongeka njengendawo eyahlukileyo kakhulu.

[00:46:03] UJackie De Burca: Babeza kwenza njalo. Ngoku, bendiza kugqiba ngokukubuza nawaphi na amazwi okugqibela engcebiso, kodwa ndicinga ukuba uphantse wayenza loo nto ngokwakho. Kodwa ngaba kukho nawaphi na, naziphi na ezinye, uyazi, amatye anqabileyo amancinci ongathanda ukunikela ngawo ukugqibezela?

[00:46:17] UGqr Nadina Galle: Uthotho lweenxalenye ezine, mhlawumbi iingcebiso ezincinci kunye nomngeni omncinci. Ndiye ndenzile ke, ndithe kuni jonga into ekuloo mitha ye-500 yerediyasi, kodwa ngokuqinisekileyo ndingamema bonke abaphulaphuli ukuba bachonge ubuncinci bezityalo ezili-10 okanye iintlobo zezilwanyana kumgama ongama-500 emitha yerediyasi yekhaya labo. Kwaye ukuba uyathanda, ungasebenzisa enye yezi apps sixoxe ngazo, Earth Snap, PlantSnap, iNaturalist, kwaye uzibandakanye nomntu. Umngeni weNdalo yesiXeko, ukuba kunjalo, oko kukuthi ekupheleni kuka-Epreli, ekuqaleni kukaMeyi, leyo yindlela emnandi kuba ke awuchongi ezi ntlobo kuphela kwaye uthatha isitokhwe sezinto ezikujikelezileyo, kodwa unokuhlangana nabanye abantu. abanomdla koku ngokunjalo. Kwaye uya kumangaliswa ukuba kukangaphi ukuba ndiyeke ukufota, uyazi, intyatyambo entle yegqabi lomthi okanye, uyazi, ndizama ukubona ibhabhathane kwikhamera yam. Uya kumangaliswa ukuba ingakanani inqanawa yokuqhekeza umkhenkce, ngokukhawuleza kangakanani, uyazi, abantu bayayibona loo nto kwaye babuze imibuzo ngayo. Uyazi, wenza ntoni okanye ujonge ntoni? Uyazi, intle inqanawa yokuqhekeza umkhenkce kwaye eli thuba lihle lonxibelelwano lwentlalo, endicinga ukuba silidinga kakhulu kwihlabathi lanamhlanje, ngakumbi kwizixeko zethu.

[00:47:39] UJackie De Burca: Lichanekile ngokupheleleyo kwaye liyingcebiso emangalisayo, Nadina. Bekumnandi kakhulu ukuba neencoko zethu ezahlukahlukeneyo. Kwaye uyazi, ndicinga ukuba yonke into oyithethileyo iya kuba luncedo kakhulu kubaphulaphuli kwaye ndiyonwabele kakhulu imifanekiso yethu kunye.

[00:47:57] UGqr Nadina Galle: Nam ndinayo. Jackie, enkosi kakhulu kubaphulaphuli ngokumamela kunye nawe, Jackie, ngokufuna ukuchitha ixesha elininzi kwezi zihloko ngokwenene, ezibaluleke ngokwenene. Ndiyathemba ukuba abaphulaphuli bakho bafumana okuninzi.

[00:48:09] UJackie De Burca: Ngexabiso kuyo kwaye ndiyakholelwa ukuba baya kwenza njalo. Nadina, enkosi kakhulu.