Umdyarho weRetrofit waseIreland — kunye noGqr. Ciarán Byrne (SEAI)

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[00:00:00] La ngamazwi akhayo. Amazwi Akhayo, i podcast kubantu bokwakha ngeendaba, iimbono kunye ingcali udliwano-ndlebe.

[00:00:14] : Wamkelekile kwi-Constructive Voices, apho sithetha nabantu abajika iinjongo ezinkulu zemozulu zibe yinguqu yehlabathi yokwenyani. Ungaziva usekhaya namhlanje. Sise-Ireland kwaye sithetha nge-retrofits, uhlaziyo olwenza indawo yakho ifudumale, ingabizi mali ininzi ukuyiqhuba kwaye icoceke iplanethi. Ukuba ukhe walwa negumbi lokulala elibandayo okanye ubukele amatyala akho amandla. Ewe, ewe, le yeyakho.

Undwendwe lwethu nguGqr Ciarán Byrne osuka e Energy Sustainable Igunya laseIreland.

Unqumla ijagoni kwaye usibonisa into emasiyenze kuqala, yintoni eneneni ehambisa inaliti kunye nendlela yokuphepha iimpazamo eziqhelekileyo. Siza kungena kwi-insulation esebenza ngokwenene, iimpompo zokufudumala ngaphandle kwenkxaso yentloko kunye nemali eluhlaza eyenza izibalo zidibanise, kunye neendlela ezihlakaniphile zamakhaya amafa amadala. Uya kuva iintsomi zibhuqiwe, ingcebiso yesiNgesi ecacileyo onokuthi wenze kuyo kunye nendlela elula onokuthi uyilandele ukuba ulungele uphuculo olupheleleyo okanye inyathelo elinye eliqinileyo.

Kulungile, masingene kuyo. Ndijonge kuwe, Jackie.

[00:01:16] UJackie De Burca: Ndikunye noGqr. Ciarán Byrne apha osuka kwiGunya laMandla aZinzileyo eIreland kwaye sithethile malunga nonyaka odlulileyo, emva ngo-2024, kodwa ngokuqinisekileyo kuninzi okwenzekayo okwangoku, Ciarán, kuya kuba kuhle ukuba ukhe udibane nawe.

[00:01:30] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Enkosi, Jackie, ngokuba nam. Ewe, kwaye lixesha elifanelekileyo lokuba ubambe kuba, uyazi, sisithuba esixakekileyo, njengoko usitsho, kwaye kuninzi okuqhubekayo kwaye ngokucacileyo kuninzi ekufuneka kwenziwe ngokunjalo. Ke, ewe, ndonwabile ukuba nencoko nawe namhlanje.

[00:01:41] UJackie De Burca: Kumnandi. Bendinengcinga engaqhelekanga ngale ntsasa njengoko siphuma kuhlobo olunye. Bendicinga, khawufane ucinge ukuba kukho umntu obuyileyo kwiminyaka yoo-80s wathi kuthi, uyazi, masenze iretrofit. Ngesingazange siyazi ukuba yayiyintoni loo nto ngelo xesha, akunjalo?

[00:01:53] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Hayi, ndiyazi, iyinto ehlekisayo, ndiyayithanda indlela othetha ngayo iindidi ngokungathi siluhlobo lokugxekwa kwefilimu. Sibadala. Ndicinga ukuba, Jackie, yile nto uzama ukuyithetha ngembeko. Ewe, ndiyacinga. Ngaba thina millet akunakwenzeka emva boomers, millennials okanye into enjalo?

[00:02:05] UJackie De Burca: X, ngokucacileyo.

kwaye AI icinga ukuba sikrelekrele kuba xa mna. Ewe, ndiye ndangena kwiGoogle, iGen X yazo zonke iintlobo zezinto ezinomdla kuthi. Kodwa ewe, buyisela kwakhona. Into yam ehlekisayo yayikukuba, uyazi, ukuba umntu wayeliphosile elo gama kwiminyaka yoo-80s, bekuya kuba ngathi, ingaba yinto yokwenza nerekhodi okanye into?

[00:02:23] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, ngekhe wacinga, uyazi, Ngaba yayiyiBoomtown Rats? Yintoni abafo abaneebhulukhwe zetartan, abo bafana beenwele ezinkulu kunye namadevu, uyazi, ngoko kunjalo.

[00:02:33] UJackie De Burca: Ayisiyiyo into yokubuyisela kwakhona. Kwabo bantu bangaziyo, ungathanda ukucacisa kanye ukuba yintoni i-retrofitting?

[00:02:40] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, kuhle. Kukuphucula amandla ekhaya. Ngoko ke i-retrofitting yindlu ekhoyo. Kwaye ndiza kuthetha ngokuyintloko malunga necala lasekhaya lezinto. Izindlu kunye namagumbi, amakhaya. Kwaye into esiyenzayo kukuphucula amandla ekhaya. Ngoko kwandisa ukusebenza kwamandla kwekhaya. Kwaye oko kuthetha ukuthini ukuba uyayikhusela. Uninzi lwezindlu zineendonga ezine okanye uphahla kunye nantoni na, iingcango, iifestile. Uyigqume ilaphu, ilaphu langaphandle lendlu kwaye emva koko utshintshe uhlobo lwenkqubo yokufudumeza ephantsi apho kwiimeko ezininzi e-Ireland i-fuel fuel based, eyi-oyile okanye igesi okanye ngamanye amaxesha amalahle okanye i-peat, kunye nokubeka inkqubo yokufudumala ehlaziyiweyo njengempompo yobushushu. Kodwa siya kumakhaya asele ekhona apho kukho malunga ne-1, yintoni eyayikho, amakhaya azizigidi ezi-2.2, ndiyacinga, ngokwe-CSO, apho malunga ne-1.8 yezigidi ezihlala kuyo, sele zakhiwe. Kwaye singena kuloo makhaya kwaye sizama kwaye siphucule ukusebenza kwamandla kwekhaya okanye ukuwalungisa kwakhona. Lo nto

[00:03:46] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, yingcaciso enkulu leyo. Ke, ewe, ndikhankanyile, ndirekhoda oku kwindlu kabawo eDublin kwaye ufumana into encinci yokubuyisela kwimeko yakhe ngeefestile ezintle zaseGeorgia eziya kufuneka ziphuculwe kwaye zenze indlu ibe namandla ngakumbi. Ke, uyazi, kuyenzeka ngokucacileyo kwiindawo ezininzi, kwiindawo ezininzi ekujoliswe kuzo, uyazi, ngaba ziyaphumelela? Oko sigqibele ukuthetha apha malunga.

[00:04:09] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Kunyaka odlulileyo, saseka uhlahlo lwabiwo-mali lwekhabhoni. Akukho carbon ingako evunyelweyo kwicandelo ngalinye, kodwa kwisithuba seminyaka emihlanu. Ke ukuba nabani na ufuna ukugrumba nzulu kule nto, uya kubona ukuba uhlahlo lwabiwo-mali olwahlukeneyo lwekhabhoni, amacandelo amathathu unelinye lezothutho, elinye lelendawo yokuhlala, elinye lezolimo, elinye lombane, njalo njalo. Kwaye kwithuba leminyaka emihlanu, esi sisixa sekhabhoni ovunyelwe ukusisebenzisa. Kwaye ngokucacileyo inqaku elipheleleyo lohlahlo lwabiwo-mali kukuba luhlobo lokurhafisa. Kukho isuntswana ekujoliswe kulo ukufikelela. Kwaye indlela ibhajethi yekhabhoni, zisekwe kwiibhloko zeminyaka emihlanu. Ngoko ke iminyaka emihlanu yokuqala isikhupha ukuya ekupheleni kuka-2025. Ibhloko yeminyaka emihlanu elandelayo isuka kwi-25 ukuya ku-2030.

Ke apho sijongana neethagethi kwisicwangciso sesizwe sokubuyisela, njengoko sasikhaba ibhola ukuba idlale malunga no-2019 kwaye emva koko ngokukhawuleza okanye ngaphantsi ngokukhawuleza emva koko, saba ne-Covid inxalenye engcono yeminyaka emibini, ngokuqinisekileyo ayicothi izinto. Ke kwakusekuqaleni kuka-2022 ukuba siye sahamba ngokukhawuleza malunga nokubuyisela kwakhona kwisikali kwaye besisenza umsebenzi omhle kakhulu ukusukela ngoko. Kodwa indlela ekujoliswe kuyo kumiselwe, uJackie, kukuba ibhloko yokuqala yeminyaka emihlanu luhlobo oluthozamileyo kwaye konke malunga nokufumana iinkqubo endaweni kunye nokufumana ulwazi lwakhiwe kunye nokufumana ikhonkco lokubonelela lakhiwe kunye nezinto ezinjalo ukuze ulungele ukuthatha ibhloko yesibini yeminyaka emihlanu. Ke ilayishiwe ekupheleni, ndiyacinga, ngokweminyaka elishumi. Ke kulo nyaka uphelileyo, kunyaka ophelileyo, kunyaka ophelileyo, 2024, singene ndaweni ithile kodwa sinentloni nje izicelo ezingama-70,000, ezimalunga nokwanda kwe-4% kulo nyaka uphelileyo, into entle, kodwa ayilunganga ngokwaneleyo kwi-420 yezigidi zeeyuro, eyi-30% yea.

[00:06:41] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, kulungile. Ke ndiyaqikelela kuyo yonke into endiyibonileyo kwiincoko zethu zangaphambili kunye nophando lwencoko yanamhlanje apha, kuya kubakho umngeni onzima ngaphambili. Ukunyathela kwethu, uyazi, uhlobo lokuzama ukuyakha ukuya kuhlobo lwesantya esilindelekileyo nesifunekayo, ndiyacinga.

[00:07:00] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, kunjalo. I. Jonga, akukho mntu uthe oku kuya kuba lula kwaye ngengqiqo esiyenzayo, senza ngokwenene, xa ubuya umva uhlobo oluphezulu jonga oku. Sizama ukubandakanya ngokufanelekileyo amakhaya ayi-1.8 yezigidi elizweni ukwenza into. Kwaye ngumsebenzi onomdla kakhulu, uJackie, kuba, uyazi, nantoni na kwaye ukhankanye uyihlo kwintwana yokubuyisela kwaye baninzi abantu abenza loo nto. Benza umlinganiselo omnye okanye baphucula i-attic okanye batshintsha ukumpompa umngxuma ezindongeni okanye nokuba yintoni na. Nantoni na oyenzayo kwesi sithuba yile nto siyibiza ngokuba akukho msebenzi wokuzisola. Ngoko konke kulungile. Nantoni na oyenzayo ukuphucula i ukusebenza kwamandla yekhaya lakho ukuba lisebenzisa amandla amancinci kwaye siqhubela phambili kwi-decarbonization ilungile. Iza kuba ngumngeni, akukho mathandabuzo ngaloo nto. Kodwa yiyo yonke indalo yerhamncwa ngokwemiqathango isenzo semozulu ekujoliswe kuko kuyo yonke ibhodi kwaye uninzi lwabaphulaphuli bakho apha baya kuba ngokupheleleyo

[00:08:18] UJackie De Burca: Ngokuqinisekileyo. Kwaye ndingakuxelela ngokwam ukuba, uyazi, xa ndandifudukela Speyin emva phaya ngo-2003, andizange ndiyicinge into yokuba kwiminyaka engama-22 kamva, ndingatsho ukuba kuyakhululeka ukubuyela kwakhona ngoku. Andithethi oku. Ndiyakuthanda ukubuyela eIreland. Makungatshiwo ukuba ndithetha nantoni na malunga neIreland kuma-Irish, ukuba ndingakhululeka ukubaleka kuba le nto uyithethileyo ngomntu owayekuyo. Photshugo, siye saba neeveki ezisixhenxe ezingapheliyo eSpain kwaye iye yahlukile kweminye iminyaka. Ke andinamathandabuzo engqondweni yam bendingathandabuzi ngaphambi kweli hlobo, kodwa ngoku ndiqiniseke ngakumbi ngento eyenzekayo kunye nokuba kufuneka sihambe ngokukhawuleza kangakanani kuyo yonke into.

[00:08:55] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Linqaku elihle elo, Jackie. Leyo yinto enika umdla ngokwenene. Mhlawumbi ndiyinxalenye yento esiza kuyenza namhlanje kwaye yinxalenye yomsebenzi wam kwaye ukuya kuthi ga kwinqanaba ukwenza olo nxulumano lwabantu. Ngoko nje uhlobo lokuhamba ngezinyuko. Uhlala eSpain kwaye itshintshile njani. Ke umntu ujikela umhlobo wam ePortugal, ajike iiveki ezimbalwa, iiholide kwaye ahambe, enkosi, kushushu kakhulu. Yayingama-38 degrees. Kulungile, ndingaya phaya kwakhona kulo nyaka uzayo okanye ndingakhetha elinye ixesha, nokuba yintoni na. Kodwa eneneni izama ukudibanisa loo ngongoma kwaye ithi, uyazi ukuba yintoni? Ayikuko ukuba siyayibangela. Kwinqanaba loluntu, siyayibangela, kodwa malunga nokuba yintoni onokuyenza ngayo? Kwaye ngamanye amaxesha abantu baphosa izandla zabo emoyeni baze bahambe, oh, jeez, kubi kakhulu, kubi ngenene. Kodwa ndizakuqhubeka ndisenza lento ndiyenzayo. Kodwa eneneni zezo cumulative mpe mbelelo kuzo zonke ezo nguqu zincinci ezenziwa ngabantu zinokubakho umahluko. Ngoko ke loo mntu angakwazi. Umyeni wam kufuneka athi,

[00:10:03] UJackie De Burca: Ndiyacinga. Ndicinga ukuba kunjalo. Iyagrumba phantsi, akunjalo? Kanye njengokuba ubutshilo, Ciarán, ngena kwinqanaba lomntu, akusekho, oh, kukho izinto ezoyikekayo ezenzeka kude emhlabeni, uyazi, akusekho ngolo hlobo. Kwaye itshintsha ngokukhawuleza. Ngoko ukuba abantu banokuqonda ukuba kukho izinto ezifana notata wam unama-86. Yiyo loo nto engenzi ntlawulo enkulu. Uyazi, wayeyindoda encinci, uyazi, eyibeka nje ngokuphandle kakhulu. Akalindelanga ukubona inzuzo yalo kwaye oko, yimeko yakhe. Kodwa noko kukho into ayenzayo. Ke ndicinga ukuba kufanelekile kuye nakuye nabani na oqalayo, njengoko ubutshilo, uCiarán, kuhambo lwabo lokubuyisela.

[00:10:39] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, yingongoma entle leyo. Uphakamisa inani lezinto ezilungileyo. Inye into ebesiyibhala ngokuqinisekileyo kulo nyaka uphelileyo kwaye luhlobo lokuzifumana ndikwindawo ehlekisayo, ukuxhalaba kwemozulu. Ke ukuba ufunda izihloko zeendaba ezimbi ngokwaneleyo, uqala ukuhamba, Thixo, siyaphi? Enye yezinto malunga nokuxhalaba kwemozulu ngulo mbono wokungakwazi ukuwulawula. Ke, uyazi, yonke le nto yenzeka. Ndingenza ntoni? Uyazi, abantu bahlala apho bebukele uDavide Attmer i-documentary kunye nebhere elimhlophe libulawa yindlala kwaye uluhlobo lokuhamba, ndingenza ntoni? Ewe, eneneni uqala ukutshintsha indlela oziphethe ngayo kwaye ube lelo kunye nenani leenqwelomoya ozithathayo, okanye yiba unjalo. Loluphi uhlobo lwesithuthi osiqhubayo okanye indlela osenza ngayo izithuthi zikawonke-wonke okanye ube yiloo retrofit ekhayeni lakho ligalelo lakho ekulawuleni ifuthe lam lemozulu. Leyo yinxalenye yayo. Elinye icandelo lokuphakamisa uJack linomdla ngokwenene malunga notata wakho ukuba sele ekhulile kwaye mhlawumbi akayi kuwenza wonke umsebenzi kuba ngokuqondakalayo usenokungayiboni inzuzo yalo, kodwa yinto ekufuneka sijongane nayo ngaphambili kwi-SAI kunye nokusebenza nabalingane abahlukeneyo besebe. Uyabona amakhaya kusafuneka alungiswe. Ke eyona ndlela sixhasa ngayo abantu kuhambo lwabo. Xa ucinga malunga ne-1.8 yezigidi zamakhaya ahlala abantu bonke ngaphandle kobalo, awafani. Ke imithwalo yabantu kwizigaba ezahlukeneyo zohambo. Ngaba sinalo isicwangciso okanye indlela yabantu abohlukeneyo kwizigaba ezahlukeneyo? Nantso into esiyiyo'

[00:11:47] UJackie De Burca: Inika umdla. Ewe, hayi, kuba ndicinga ukuba yiyo ngokupheleleyo. Sisitokhwe sonke, ukuba uyathanda, njengoko usibiza njalo, njenge isitokhwe sezindlu, eya kuba ziindidi ezahlukeneyo ze Zakhiwo, amaxesha ahlukeneyo, ahlukeneyo, uyazi, njengoko ubutshilo, uzikhathalele kunye nabantu kuwo onke amanqanaba obomi babo. Umbuzo omkhulu uya kuba njani. Ndithetha ukuba oko kufana nomngeni omkhulu. Ingavunywa njani ngenxa yayo yonke loo nto kwaye abantu abaninzi abanayo isixa se-X samashumi amawaka ngaphambili. Ndiyazi ukuba kukho intaphane yezibonelelo njengokuba ngokucacileyo akunjalo, uyazi, akunjalo, asilulo uhlobo lokugxekwa. Kodwa abantu kufuneka babeke ityala ekuqaleni ngokwenene, akunjalo?

[00:12:24] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, kulungile, ndicinga ngokwemiqathango. Ndiza kubuyela kwizibonelelo okomzuzwana, kodwa unyanisile malunga nesitokhwe sezindlu kwaye yahlukile kwaye ngokucacileyo nabani na eIreland mva nje, elona tikiti likhulu e. Dolophu zizindlu zokuhlala kwaye kugxilwe kakhulu kwizindlu ezitsha kwaye zonke ziya kwakhiwa imigangatho ephezulu ngokungaqhelekanga, kodwa yonke into ininzi kakhulu into ekhoyo ngoku isazakubakhona ngo-2050 xa sifuna ukubethwa. umnatha. Ngoko ke kufuneka sijongane nayo. Kwaye into esiyenzayo kukwakha uhlobo lwento esiqhele ukuyenza kukulinga iiprojekthi. Jonga ukuba singahlangabezana njani neentlobo ezithile kunye neqela lezindlu. Umzekelo, sinekhaya lemveli elineprojekthi yokulinga eqhubekayo okwangoku. Uchazile apho, Jackie, ukuba utata wakho nendlu yakho nguGeorge kunye neefestile nezinto ezinjalo. Ke olo hlobo andiyazi indlu kwaphela, kodwa olo hlobo luthi kum kusenokubakho imiba malunga nohlobo lwemiba yelifa elijikeleze indlu. Kwaye ke imenyu onokuba nayo

Ayinguye wonke umntu onemali eninzi ekhabayo kwaye siyiqonda ngokupheleleyo loo nto. Ngoko ufuna ukuxhasa abantu kuhambo lwabo. Kwaye ke sisebenzisa eli nqaku ngohambo kunye nendlela, nawuphi na umlinganiselo, konke oku akukho ndawo yokuzisola. Ngoko ukuba unayo imali efanelekileyo okanye imali eseleyo, lo, kulo nyaka okanye nantoni na, kobu busika, wathi, uyazi ukuba yintoni, ndenze ntoni? Ukufumana i-attic igqunywe ngeyona nto inexabiso eliphantsi, eyona nto ingcono onokuyenza ekuqaleni. Kwaye yibhokisi yamanqaku. Wenze kakuhle. Ukwinxalenye yokuqala yohambo lwakho. Ukuba unokwenza enye into kunyaka ozayo okanye unyaka olandelayo, kuhle kakhulu. Ke sizama ukuprofile kwaye sitshintshe amacebo ethu anokunceda ngenene abantu kolu hambo. Kwaye oko kuye kwaxhaswa. Kukho umthetho omtsha omkhulu ozayo ovela eYurophu obizwa ngokuba nguMyalelo wokuSebenza kweZakhiwo. Kwaye ngenene imalunga naloo nto, ukufaka abantu endleleni kwaye abanye abantu banokuhla emgceni bekunye kunye namandla angakumbi kubo, kwaye abanye abantu benza u-2, 3, 5,

[00:14:54] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, ndiyavuya ukuba uyithethile loo nto. Saba nencoko emnandi, incoko enika umdla kakhulu noStephen Barrett waseIreland Sakhiwo seGreen IBhunga, ngokukodwa malunga ne-Energy Performance Buildings Directive. Uzibandakanye kakhulu ekubuyeni naphambili kunye ne-EU kwaye uchaze ngokwenene indlela i-Ireland isetyenziswe ngayo njengomzekelo kwisibini samanye amazwe.

[00:15:15] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, kulungile, uStephen kunye neqela kunye IBhunga loKwakha iGreen Green zibalaseleyo. Sinobudlelwane obuluqilima ngokwenene kunye nabo kwaye sisebenza ngokusondeleyo kakhulu kunye nabo. Kwaye ndonwabile ukuba baya kusixelela ukuba senza izinto ngokufanelekileyo okanye ezingalunganga. Kwaye ngokwembono yabo, kwaye besimamele kakhulu kuba baphezulu kakhulu, phezulu komdlalo ngokwezinto abazenzayo kwaye sisebenza ngokusondeleyo nabo, siphuhlisa iiprojekthi ezininzi kunye nantoni na. Kodwa ewe, senze. Inkqubo yokubuyisela kwakhona e-Ireland luhlobo, kwinqanaba, umona weYurophu ngenxa yomlinganiselo kunye namabhongo eprogram kunye nendlela esizama ngayo ukwenza amakhaya. Kwaye xa uthetha ngolo hlobo isikali ukuba sithetha kwaye ubuyele nje kwinqanaba. Okwangoku ekujoliswe kuko ngamakhaya angama-500,000 ukuba abe ngumgangatho wakho we-B2, emalunga ne-27% yesitokhwe sezindlu ngo-2030. Ngoko ke ngamabhongo ngokwenene xa uthetha ngolo hlobo lwesikali, into ekufuneka uyenzile kukwakha iindlela zakho, uhambise.

[00:16:32] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, ngokuqinisekileyo. Ke mamela, kukho ihlombe elikhulu apha elizwini lakho, elimangalisayo ukuliva. Kodwa inye into yokuba kuphando lwam phambi kwengxoxo yethu namhlanje, uyazi, ngokuqinisekileyo uMphathiswa uRyan wavuma ukuba urhulumente angasilela kwithagethi yokubuyisela ka-2030.

Ngokwembono yakho, Carol, yintoni kanye kanye.

[00:16:50] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, ndicinga ukuba sineethagethi, sinokunikezela okucacileyo, kwaye sinemveliso eyomeleleyo yonikezelo kwicandelo lethu. Kwaye sigxile ngokwenene kuloo nto. Kodwa ukuya kuthi ga kwinqanaba elithile, asigxininisi kakhulu kuloo nto kuba into esiyifunayo kukuba uninzi lweziqhuma zesantya, njengoko ndizibiza njalo, ziyasuswa kangangoko. Kwaye ke, uyazi, inqaku lokuqala lokufowuna kukwenza xa ucinga ngohambo. Abaninimzi kufuneka benze isigqibo sokwenza into, akunjalo? Cinga ngabaphulaphuli bakho ukuze ucinge ngalo mzuzu kwaye sikubiza ngokuba luhambo lwabathengi ukusuka ekuqaleni ukuya esiphelweni. Kwaye uqale ukuba ngathi, uthathe isigqibo sokwenza into ekugqibeleni, ndinomlinganiselo endaweni kwaye yonke ihlawulwe kwaye inikezelwe kwaye yintoni na. Kulungile, umntu kufuneka athathe isigqibo sokuba enze into, akunjalo? Ke kufuneka senze iqhekeza lomsebenzi malunga nokubaxhasa kwaye siqonde ukuba yintoni onokuyenza? Uyenza njani? Uphi ngoku? Ziziphi izinto onokuzenza? Sinephulo lokuvelisa imfuno kunye

[00:19:17] UJackie De Burca: Kwaye kwakhona, ngenxa yokuba ndikwindawo enelungelo lokuba nencinci, uyazi, okokuqala, okwesibini, ngenxa yamava kabawo kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo waba nempendulo ekhawulezayo kwicala lesibonelelo sezinto kwaye ndicinga ukuba wayevuya kakhulu ngaloo nto.

Kwaye xa waye. Andizukukhankanya amagama ngoku, kodwa xa wayethenga kwaye efumana iikowuti, kwakukho inkampani enye oye wayidwelisa kwiwebhusayithi kwaye enye yayingadweliswanga kwisiza. Ngoko, ngokuqinisekileyo ndamkhuthaza. Akangomntu ovula ikhompyutha. Ngoko kwafuneka ndijonge ezo zinto. Kwaye ndabachazela imeko. Ndathi, khangela, ukuba kucetyiswa yi ulwandle, ke, iyakuba yinkampani ohamba nayo. Ke ndicinga ukuba oko kufana kucacile, uyazi, ngokubhekiselele kuye nabani na oqala uhambo lwakhe. Ndicinga ukuba eli cala lisebenza kakuhle, eneneni.

[00:20:01] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe. Ke kwezinye izikimu, enye yezo sinazo, iskimu seKhaya leMandla eliNgcono, kulapho abantu benza khona imilinganiselo yomntu ngamnye. Oko kudume ngokungaqhelekanga. Kwaye njengenguquko, isicelo sibakho ngoko nangoko. Ngoko kufuneka siyazi nje, njengaye mprn, yeyiphi inombolo yereferensi yenqaku lemitha, abantu abanayo kumatyala ethu, kwaye ngokusebenzayo konke esikujongileyo kukuba, uyazi, bubukho bekhaya kwaye ngaba besikhe sasihlawula isibonelelo ngaphambili kwelo khaya? Kwaye iphantse yakhawuleza ngokomgaqo wenkqubo yokuvunywa, eqaqambileyo. Kwaye ndive abantu abaninzi besithi kwisiqwenga sekontraka, asikho, ngenxa yezizathu ezicacileyo, asicebisi abafowunelwa ngabanye. Kodwa into esiyenzayo, sinerejista yeekontraka kwaye ukuba ikhontrakthi iyeza ukujonga kwaye ithi, ndifuna ukubhalisa kunye ne-sei, sijonga nje ukuba sine-inshurensi yerhafu, eyimfuno enyanzelekileyo, kwaye bayakwazi ukuhambisa umlinganiselo abazimisele ukuwenza. Ke ukuba bangumnikezeli wofakelo, unawo amanqanaba okuzithemba, iziqinisekiso zokuzisa ufakelo ngendlela eyiyo? Singasoloko sicebisa ukuba abantu basebenzise iikontraka eziphuma kuluhlu oluvunyiweyo. Abantu abagunyaziswanga ukuba benze njalo. Kodwa ngelishwa, emsebenzini wam ndifumana ukubona elinye icala locingo apho cont

Abaqhubi, kwisikimu sethu, baphantsi kokuhlolwa rhoqo ngokufanelekileyo ngokwemiqathango. Kukho uhlolo oluninzi olwenziweyo. Abafowunelwa bathathwa ngokungakhethiyo ukuba bahlolwe. Kukho ii-odolo, kukho ukulungiswa kwakhona, kukho imigangatho. Unayo iintetho zebhokisi yezixhobo, ugcina imigangatho iphezulu. Ke, uyazi, yiyo loo nto ndihlala ndikhuthaza abantu ukuba baye kwiikontraka ngaphandle kwerejista ngenxa yeso sizathu, kunjalo.

[00:21:26] UJackie De Burca: Ndijonge uphononongo lwezi nkampani zimbini kwaye leyo ibikwirejista yakho ibivakala kakhulu ijongeka ngokwemiqathango yophononongo. Kwi-intanethi. Ngaba leyo yinto onokucinga ukuyenza, eneneni ukuba nophononongo njengenxalenye yerejista, nangona kunjalo?

[00:21:40] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, ndicinga ukuba kufuneka silumke kancinci malunga naloo nto. Kwaye unokuyiqonda loo nto nje ngokwembono yezomthetho. Uyazi, kukho elinye iqela elipheleleyo. Kodwa jonga eyona nto ukhomba kuyo, Jack. Kwaye into endiya kuyivuma ngokupheleleyo kwaye ndikhuthaze amadala, amadala, uyazi, i-caveat emptor, umthengi lumka. Kwaye ndilikholwa eliqinileyo, nokuba yiretrofit okanye uthenga imoto entsha, nokuba uthenga umatshini wokuhlamba okanye nokuba uyintoni na, thenga ngapha nangapha, akunjalo? Kwaye uyazi, kuvakala ngathi kufana nolwazi olungenangqondo, kodwa fumana iikowuti ezintathu zomsebenzi. Ndikwisikhundla esiwongwe kakhulu sendlu apha eDublin kwaye ndenze imisebenzi apha endleleni. Bendihlala ndizama ukufumana iikowuti ezintathu okanye ezine kwaye ndibone izinto ezingaqhelekanga kolunye lohambo lwam. Kunene. Kwaye hayi, hayi kwicala le-retro, kodwa kwelinye icala ngokunjalo. Kwaye usoloko ufumana izicaphulo ezibini okanye ezithathu ukuba unokuthetha nomntu onaloo nkampani. Kwaye ndiyazi kwindawo yam, ukuba kukho umntu

[00:22:46] UJackie De Burca: Ngoku.

[00:22:46] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Asizami ukujikela abantu amandla. njineli okanye ukugquma Iingcali, kodwa nokuba nohlobo lwenqanaba elisisiseko lokuqonda ukuba yintoni efunekayo ukwenza oku kunye nokuba yintoni inkangeleko entle kubaluleke kakhulu.

[00:22:58] UJackie De Burca: Ngokuqinisekileyo, ewe. Kuba ngummandla omtsha, uyazi, kuninzi lwaba bantu. Ke ewe, ngummandla omtsha. Kwaye ungaziva usisidenge kwaye ungaziva ngathi umntu othile uyakwenza, uyazi, wenze, ngokuba awuyazi into oyithethayo. Ngoko yonke loo nto kakhulu, iluncedo kakhulu. Ngoku, enye yeenkxalabo ezicacileyo ngabasebenzi bokwenyani, uyazi, abantu abaphucukileyo ukuze bakwazi ukwenza olo hlobo lomsebenzi. Injani loo nto ngeli xesha, Ciarán?

[00:23:22] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, mninzi umsebenzi phaya, ingxoxo eninzi ngokunxulumene nohlobo lwecandelo elitsha lokwakha. Kwaye abasebenzi ngokubanzi. Ke kwiNqanaba le-Ireland Inc., njengoko ndikholelwa, sikwinto abayibiza ngokuba ngumsebenzi ogcweleyo wezoqoqosho. Oko kuthetha ukuba amanqanaba entswela-ngqesho malunga ne-4% okanye ngaphantsi kancinane. Kwaye oko kuthetha ukuba kusoloko kukho abantu abaluhlobo lokungena nokushiya abasebenzi. Ngoko ke iingcali zoqoqosho zisixelela ukuba xa ukwinqanaba le-4% lokungaphangeli, unokuqeshwa ngokupheleleyo kuba nabani na ofuna umsebenzi unomsebenzi. Ngoko kukho ukhuphiswano kubasebenzi. Kukho umsebenzi omkhulu ojikeleze icandelo elitsha lokwakha elikhuphisana necandelo lokubuyisela. Ndiyakwazi ukukuxelela ukuba ndithethe neekontraka ezininzi, icandelo le-retrofit. Ndithethe nabo kutsha nje malunga nendlela esiziphuhlisa ngayo izinto kwaye bomelele kakhulu kwinto yokuba akukho kuhlangana kungako phakathi kwecandelo lethu kunye necandelo elitsha lokwakha. Uninzi lwabafana abenza umsebenzi wokubuyisela, luhlobo olwahlukileyo lwe-wo

[00:24:51] UJackie De Burca: Zonke ezi zinto zenzeka apha.

[00:24:53] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, kanye. Ke, ke, uyimicrocosm yohlobo lwesitrato sakho esiqhelekileyo eDublin okanye eCork okanye kwiGo. Ke inqaku lelokuba kukho isethi eyahlukileyo yezakhono kunye nezakhono eziya kwikhaya ebelihlalwa, ebelikho kwaye lisetyenziswa. Ngoko. Ke kukho ukugqithelana, kodwa hayi kakhulu njengoko abantu benokucinga. Ke ngokuqinisekileyo ndiye ndathetha neekontraka kunye nebali elicacileyo lokuziphatha kwicala lethu lokubuyisela i-retrofit kukho umthamo apho kwaye bafuna nje abantu ukuba bathathe ifowuni bahambe nayo. Kodwa ngoku lixesha elihle lokucinga malunga nokubuyisela kwakhona kuba, uyazi, sinokubuyisela kwakhona unyaka wonke kunye nayo yonke enye. Kodwa njengoko singena ekwindla, uyazi, ukuba uziva ngathi kupholile kulo nyaka uphelileyo kwaye kufuneka ndenze into, into yokuqala endiya kuba ndiyithetha kukuqinisekisa ukuba i-attic yakho kunye ne-cavity yenziwe. Yiyo loo nto, uyazi, yindawo yokuqala malunga nohambo lwakho lokugquma. Kwaye uninzi lweekontraka eziphaya ziyakwenza oko. Ikhawuleza kakhulu.

[00:25:37] UJackie De Burca: Kulungile, ke ewe, siza kuzama ukukhupha oku, uyazi, ukunika iingcebiso ebantwini. Siza kuzama kwaye mhlawumbi sihambise esinye isiqendu ngenxa yexesha kwaye yinxalenye ebalulekileyo yohambo luka-Arden. Uyazi, njengoko ubutshilo ngaphambili kumbuzo wakho, Ciarán, uvakalelwa kukuba yintoni indima ye-SEAI ekuvaleni umsantsa phakathi komgaqo-nkqubo okwinqanaba eliphezulu kunye nokuhanjiswa komhlaba kwezi ntlawulo?

[00:26:01] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Owu ewe, ngumbuzo omkhulu lowo, Jackie. Kwaye into oyichaze kancinci ifana nesandwich kwaye si, siyi ham embindini. Ke ukuba ndoyama isitulo sam seofisi kwaye ndijonge ngasekhohlo, sikwinkonzo. Ke ndikhankanyile ekuphakameni kweNgxoxo esixhase abaninimzi abangama-54,000 kunyaka ophelileyo ukuba benze ukuphuculwa kwekhaya labo kwaye sifuna ukwenza okungakumbi kunyaka olandelayo kwaye siqhubeke. Ke sinendima yonikezelo eyomeleleyo ngokwenene. Ekubeni sithatha, sihambisa. Kwaye loo ngxoxo yangaphambili ekuqinisekiseni ukuba amanqaku eentlungu asusiwe, amaqhuqhuva esantya asusiwe kwaye ayinamthungo kangangoko kubanikazi bezindlu ukuba benze into elungileyo, pivot isitulo ngenye indlela. Sibuyela umva kubulungiseleli bethu kwaye sineqela elikhulu kakhulu apho elijonge kumanqanaba aphezulu emigaqo-nkqubo malunga noko kufuneka bathathe. nkqubo ka rhu lumente kwaye apho ufuna uhlobo lokusasaza igama kwaye apho bafuna uhlobo lwezicwangciso zokusebenza. Fumana inkxaso-mali kurhulumente omkhulu ukulungiselela amacebo kunye

[00:27:24] UJackie De Burca: Ewe, inomdla lowo. Ngoku iNtetho yeNdaba, ndiqinisekile ukuba uyayazi ingxelo yabo yakutshanje. Bayigxininise into yokuba bavakalelwa kukuba ukuthatyathwa kwenkxaso-mali yokubuyisela imali kusephantsi. Ciarán, kutheni uvakalelwa kukuba ambalwa kangaka amakhaya afaka izicelo xa kuthethwa ngomsebenzi onzima eniwenzayo?

. Yintoni na, kufuneka ibe phezulu. Ngoko sifuna izinto ezingakumbi zokuzenza. Kwaye eneneni imalunga nokuba ungajonga ulwazi olukwinqanaba eliphezulu lezoqoqosho kunye nezinto ezinjalo, kodwa uyazi, ekupheleni kosuku ngumntu ngamnye kufuneka enze isigqibo somntu ngamnye kunye nokuba bakuphi kuhambo lwabo ebomini. Kwaye akukho mathandabuzo ngayo, izinto zivakala ngathi ziqina kancinci phaya. Kukho ulwazi oluninzi oluza malunga nokuba abantu baziva bencinci. Kukho ixabiso elincinci lokuphila, ixabiso legrosari kunye nezinto ezinjalo. Izinto eziphambili kubomi babantu, kuxhomekeke apho bakhoyo ebomini, uyazi, ke zizinto zonke eziye zondla kwisigqibo. Kwaye jonga, siya kwenza rhoqo, sithetha nabantu abaziphatha, sivotela imarike, senza isampuli. Abantu bathi, uyazi, yintoni ekuyekisayo ukwenza into eqalayo,

[00:30:12] UJackie De Burca: Kulungile. Ndiyathetha ukuba andinamathandabuzo malunga neenzuzo, uyazi, impilo Ulumkile kwaye uyazi, utyalo-mali lulumkile kunye nazo zonke ezi zinto. Kodwa ndingakwimeko efanayo nawe, Carol. Yazi ukuba siza kubuyela kwiivintages kunye neentlobo kwaye whatnot okwesibini.

[00:30:28] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, ewe.

[00:30:29] UJackie De Burca: Uyazi, bendiya kukwazi ukucinga ngohlobo, uyazi, bendingathanda ukwenza oko ukuba bendihlala eIreland? Ngokuqinisekileyo ndiya kubona izibonelelo. Kodwa ithini ipesenti yoluntu, uyazi, usandul' ukukhankanya ixeshana elidlulileyo okwenzekayo kumazwe amaninzi. Uyazi, iindleko zokuthenga zemihla ngemihla zinyuke kakhulu. Ke sizakuthi nilusapho oluncinci kuhambo lwakho olunabantwana abancinci kwaye ngoku uyasicela umngeni ukuba sondle wonke umntu kwaye sifumane amanapkeni nazo zonke ezi zinto. Ndiyaqikelela ukuba bendikwindawo yabo, bendinokucinga, ke, le yinto yabantu abazizityebi, singayenza njani ukuba ibandakanywe ngakumbi, uyacinga?

[00:31:04] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, yingongoma entle leyo, Jackie. Kwaye jonga, kwaye kwakhona, ndiyaqonda ukuba ndandilijoni kungekudala kangako ngokwemiqathango, uyazi, iindleko zobomi, kodwa eneneni injalo. Ubuyela kwincoko yangaphambili. Singene kwipolisi yethu. Sihlala sijonga amacebo apho zenzeka khona, ngubani ukuphakamisa bona nezinto ezinjalo. Yintoni esinokuyenza eyahlukileyo? Kwaye uyazi, uthetha ngokufikeleleka, abantu. Kukho olu hlobo lomlinganiso wokubalisa apho, kodwa oh, lubuyisela kuphela abantu abazizityebi. Kodwa eneneni hayi, akunjalo konke konke kuba nezinto ezifana nokufakwa kweattic, kwaye ndiyikhankanye ukuba ikwindawo entle kakhulu yokuqala. Phuma kwi-attic insulation, uyazi, i-€2,000 okanye ngaphantsi kunye nezibonelelo eziya kuthi ga kwi-€1800, ngaphezulu kancinane kwe-€2,000, kodwa kukho izibonelelo ukuya kuthi ga kwi-€1800 yokugquma kweattic. Kodwa uthetha ngayo, uyazi, i-50, 60% yeendleko zokugquma kwe-attic ezigutyungelwe sisibonelelo.

Ngoko ixabiso eliseleyo lomninimzi lithozamile ngokwentelekiso. Elo linqanaba lokungena lokuqala ukuba ufuna ukungena kulo. Ngokumalunga nokubuyisela kwakhona, ndifumana kwaye ndiqonde ngokupheleleyo kwaye sijonge oku rhoqo. Ukuba umntu akananto ngokoqobo eseleyo etotini ekupheleni kweveki, nokuba yintoni na, kunzima ukuyiqwalasela loo nto. Kodwa ngokwembono yokuba yeyabantu abazizityebi kuphela, akunjalo kwaphela. Enye yezona zinto zintle onokuthi uzenzele indlu yakho kukuqinisekisa ukuba unenqanaba elifanelekileyo lokufakelwa kwe-attic kwaye kukho izibonelelo ezibalulekileyo zoko kuba kukho iikhontrakthi ezininzi phaya kwaye zinexabiso eliphantsi kakhulu kwimarike kwaye uyazi, sicebise oko kwaye jonga, ibuyele kwelo nqanaba labantu kuhambo lwabo. Kwaye kwakhona, ndikhumbula xa sasiqala ngenkqubo yokumisa ivenkile kuqala abantu bandinika uhlobo lwengxelo engalunganga malunga, uyazi, yeyabantu abathile kuphela kunye nabo bonke abanye kwaye andinakukwazi ukuyihlawula. Kwaye babekhathazeke kakhulu ukuba andinakuyenza loo nto

[00:32:50] UJackie De Burca: Kulungile, ke ndicinga ukuba sixoxile, uyazi, enye yeengcamango ezibalulekileyo, oko kukuthi, uyazi, yenzelwe abantu abazizityebi kuphela. Ke ndiyacinga, uyazi, uyicacisile kakuhle loo nto. Zeziphi ezinye iimbono ezingezizo, uCiarán, uyazi, ezithi gqi ngelo xesha malunga nokulungiswa ngokutsha, ezinokuthi zibe yingozi ekuthatheni, ucinga?

[00:33:08] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, enye yezona zinto zinkulu ezizayo kukuba kufuneka uphume endlwini yakho ukuba wenza iretrofit enzulu. Kwaye uyazi, elinye lamanqaku entlungu, ndikhe ndeva umntu ethetha mva nje ukuba izakuphuma kwaye andifumananga ndawo yokurenta kwaye ke ngoko ibisisithintelo, endinokuyiqonda loo nto, kodwa ibiyinto nje, ndikhe ndayikhetha kancinci kuba ilungile yonke imilinganiselo ebandakanyekayo kwi-retrofit enzulu, akufuneki uphume endlwini yakho. Kodwa into esiyibonayo ngabantu abaninzi abenza i-retrofit enzulu ngokwenene endlwini yabo benza neminye imisebenzi ngokunjalo. Ke ngoko badibanisa la maqhekeza mabini kunye. Kwavela ukuba babefumana ikhitshi ehlaziyiweyo kunye nomsebenzi wokwakha ezantsi kwigumbi lokuhlambela elisezantsi kwaye zonke ezi zinto zenziwe. Ke loo nto ayinanto yokwenza ne-retrofit oyenzayo ngexesha elinye. Ke kukho intwana yegama elingalunganga apho. Ngoko unokwenza imisebenzi emininzi

[00:34:25] UJackie De Burca: Inye into ebesikhe sathetha ngayo ngaphambili, uCiarán ngokufutshane, yayiziintlobo ngeentlobo zezindlu zaseIreland. Kwaye ngokucacileyo oko kuzisa imiceli mngeni eyodwa xa kufikwa ekuzilungiseni kwakhona, akunjalo? Ziziphi ezo zinto ngoku kwaye uhlangabezana njani nazo?

[00:34:41] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, unyanisile, Jackie. Ndicinga ukuba asihlukanga kunamazwe amaninzi aseYurophu, ukuba uyafuna. Kodwa kwihlabathi lethu, eliphela lidala malunga nowe-1941, sabeka isibiyeli sekhaya eliqhelekileyo. Ke unendlu eyakhiweyo, uyazi, uhlobo lwekhonkrithi eninzi yezindlu zeterrace ezakhiwe ngabasemagunyeni basekhaya, i-marino ngeminyaka yee-1920s kunye ne-30s. Kwaye unendlu yaseGeorgia eyakhiwe ngo-1760 kunye nayo yonke into ephakathi.

Kwaye kanye ngokwezakhiwo ngokwazo, zakhiwe ngokwahlukileyo. Ngoko i-physics yokwakha yahlukile. Ukufuma kunye nendlela yokuhamba komoya kwezo zindlu zahlukile, zonke ezo ntlobo zezinto. Ke umzekelo omhle kukuba uninzi lweemveliso, kakhulu zonke iimveliso esizisebenzisayo okwangoku kunye nezakhiwo ze-retro zinophendlo lwe-agriment, okuthetha ukuba ziqinisekisiwe ukuba ziyimveliso efanelekileyo ukuba isetyenziswe ngale ndlela ethile kwezi meko e-Ireland, kwaye oko kuthetha ukuba zichanekile. Uninzi lwezo mveliso ziya kuba zingenamanzi. Kunene. Ke ukuba unendlu yamatye endala kwaye ubeka i-insulation engagungqiyo kwi-cottage, kwenzeka ntoni ngokwenene, inokubamba ukufuma kuba i-physics yezo zindlu kukuba ukufuma kuhamba ngaphakathi nangaphandle. Kwaye ukuba ubeka umqobo ongenakungena, unokuba nomonakalo womswakama kunye nomgibe wokufuma. Kwaye abafana bandixelele, abakhi bezakhiwo kunye nokugcinwa abantu bandixelela ukuba ekuhambeni kwexesha, oko kuchaphazela isakhiwo kwaye kuchaphazela ukungunda kunye nezinto ezinjalo. Ngoko ke

[00:36:26] UJackie De Burca: Kuthekani ngegalelo lokubuyisela kwakhona? Uyazi, ayisiyo-decarbonization kuphela, kodwa, uyazi, ukomelela kwemozulu, Ciarán. Njengokumelana noku, uyazi, ukushisa kakhulu kunye nezikhukhula, njengoko besithethile ngaphambili.

[00:36:38] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, yiloo nto kanye. Ndicinga ukuba asithethi kuthi. Sibe, xa sithetha, sinethamsanqa eIreland malunga nezinto ezifana nokutya kakhulu kunye nokupholisa, kuba imozulu yethu injalo.

Ngaba ngokwentelekiso, kwaye ndithetha oku ngenxa yokuba kunjalo kusoloko kukho izinto ezingafaniyo, kodwa akulunganga. Kwaye ndiye ndaqaphela ukuba uye wema wajonga imephu yaseIreland kwaye uye empuma usuka eDublin, awukho kakubi kumgama weMoscow. Kwaye ukuba uye ngasentshona ukusuka eDublin, awukho kakubi kwi-latitude yaseNewfoundland. Kwaye ukuba ujonga iimeko zemozulu zombini ezi ndawo, zinehlobo elishushu ngokungaqhelekanga, ubusika obubandayo obungaqhelekanga. Asifuni ukuba nayo e-Ireland, kodwa into esizama ukuyenza kukuba sinodaka, imozulu epholileyo kunye nefumileyo eIreland, uyazi, ukuza kuthi ga ngoku. Kwaye ngenene, ngokulungisa ikhaya, uphucula ubuntofontofo, i intuthuzelo thermal ngayo, kodwa uyenza ukuba kungabizi mali ininzi ukuyiqhuba kwaye unceda ukuzikhusela kolu tshintsho silubona lusiza rhoqo nangakumbi.

[00:37:33] UJackie De Burca: Ngaba kukho naziphi na izinto zokwenyani, ezinje, izinto ezintsha ezinomdla, uyazi, izinto ezithandwayo, yithi, iinkqubo ze-retrofit ezinzulu okanye mhlawumbi ukuxilongwa kwamandla okusekwe kwi-AI okunokunceda ukukhawulezisa inkqubela esiyenzayo apha eIreland.

[00:37:47] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, kunjalo, yiyo. Sijonge kuloo nto. Kwaye enye yeendawo, kwaye ayisiyiyo indawo yam ngokuthe ngqo, kwaye uya kuva bethetha, abantu bathetha ngolu hlobo iindlela zale mihla zokwakha oko ukuya kwinqanaba eligxile kwisakhiwo esitsha. Ke eneneni bendikwinkomfa apho kulo nyaka uphelileyo, uJackie, kwaye besinonjingalwazi obalaseleyo wase-UK kwaye eNgilani kwaye wabeka isilayidi sakhe sokuqala kwinkomfa. Inomdla ngokwenene kwaye zininzi. Sathetha nge vintage yethu. Ke nabani na kwivintage yethu uyakukhumbula oku. Inenekazi. Intakakazi iincwadi. Yayiluhlobo, uyazi, iincwadi ezincinci zikaLadybird, nonke nifunda ubuchule, abafundi abancinci. Kwaye enye ukusuka ku-1A ukuya kwi-12C okanye nokuba yayiyintoni na, kodwa babeneqweqwe langaphambili lencwadi ye-Ladybird, ndicinga ukuba yayingowe-1955. Ngapha koko, ingongoma awayeyithetha lo njingalwazi yayimalunga nesikhokelo sokwenza izindlu, ukufundisa abantwana indlela yokwenza indlu. Kunye nomfanekiso omncinci phambi kwendlu enesiqingatha eyakhiwe, isikafula kunye nesixhumi esincinci sesamente kunye nendoda. Kwakungekho

Ke le nto siyenzayo, kukho iprojekthi yokulinga, iqela elibizwa ngokuba yi-Energy Sprung. Yayivela eYurophu kwaye isekelwe e-UK kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo siye sancokola nabo. Kwaye uya kuphuma apho kwaye baya kuthatha imilinganiselo engaphezulu kwewaka endlwini, phantse njengento epheleleyo yedijithali yendlu kwaye baya kwakha i-retrofit off site. Ke ndibone iiprojekthi ezimbalwa zaseYurophu apho ziye zavavanya olu hlobo lwetekhnoloji kwaye lukhangeleka lulungile ngokwenene, kodwa lukwinqanaba lokulinga okwangoku kunenqanaba lokusasazwa kwabantu abaninzi. Kodwa ubuya kucinga ngophuculo lwezinto ezinje nge-AI yokuvalela kude, kuya kufuneka ukwazi ukuphuma kwaye wenze uhlengahlengiso kwisikali sendawo kwaye uzibeke ezindlwini. Kwaye eneneni umqhubi wenqwelomoya, baye benza umqhubi wenqwelomoya eIreland njengenxalenye yeprojekthi, umsebenzi omhle ngokwenene owenziweyo kwaye bakhetha izindlu ezimbalwa. Ndicinga ukuba ibingelo mboleko. Kwaye nangona izindlu zazifana ngokufanayo, xa wawusiya kwimilinganiselo ethile yomntu ngamnye

[00:40:23] UJackie De Burca: Ndivele ndangena kwincoko njengekhonkco kuba kwakhona umntu. Olunye undwendwe olwalunomdla ngokwenene yayinguWill Frost waseSan Francisco. Yayingumxholo kanye lowo. Ngoku ufowuna, ukhetha ukubiza iindlela zangoku zokwakha ulwakhiwo olulungisiweyo.

[00:40:39] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ewe, intle loo nto.

[00:40:40] UJackie De Burca: Luluhlu olunika umdla. Ndithe ndisandoyikroba apho. Ngenxa yokuba useluhambeni, ulapha kunye nomsebenzi kunye nemiceli mngeni onayo apho. Ukuba wena ngokwakho ube nolawulo olupheleleyo kwiprogram yokubuyisela kwakhona ngomso ibe yinto yokuqala oyitshintshayo.

[00:40:56] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ngumbuzo onzima ngokwenene lowo.

Ukuba nabani na uyazi, ndingumntu omenzi kwaye sigxile kakhulu kwicala lokuhanjiswa kwezinto. Ngoko ke mhlawumbi ndigxila kakhulu ekuzameni ukulula.

Ke ndiza kusebenzisa amagama enza lula, ukulinganisa kunye nokudibanisa. Ke isalathiso sokuhamba ngenene ndicinga ukuba besicinga malunga nokuya ngakwicala nokuba kunjalo kuthatha ubunzima obuthile kwizicwangciso ezahlukeneyo. Into ekufuneka uyenzile, into ongayidingi ukuyenza kwaye thina, sincokola kakhulu njengoJackie kukuba sifuna abaninimzi.

Abaninimzi ngokubanzi, ukuba ucinga ngawe okanye mna okanye umtshana wakho okanye umtshana wakho, umzala wakho, ummelwane wakho, baxakeke kakhulu ebomini babo, akunjalo? Abantu baxakekile benza imisebenzi yabo kwaye benza nantoni na. Asifuni ukuba babe ziinjineli zamandla, ukuba bahle ukuba bahle, kodwa asifuni ukuba babe yile nto, uyazi, baya kuwenza lo msebenzi. Abantu abaninzi kwaye ndeva kunomathotholo mva nje ukuba, uyazi, ukuthenga indlu okanye into ethile, umntu uyayenza kube kanye, mhlawumbi kabini ebomini bakhe, akunjalo? Ukuba uyayibuyisela kwakhona indlu, yenza ukufakwa kodonga lwangaphandle lwenziwe, indlu yakho, akunakufane ukwenze oko kwakhona mhlawumbi nanini na okanye iminyaka engama-25 okanye engama-30. Ke kufuneka sisebenze nzima nangakumbi ekwenzeni lula, ukuyibeka emgangathweni, ekuyihlanganiseni. Ngoko kulula kakhulu ukuhamba ngendlela kwaye wenze umsebenzi wenziwe.

[00:42:07] UJackie De Burca: Liyakujongela ntoni ibali lempumelelo ngo-2026? Ngokwenyani, siyakuthi ukuphela kuka-2026.

[00:42:17] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Owu, ngo-2020. Ewe inqaku lokuqala liza kubachitha ngemali eyabelweyo kwaye sibethe iithagethi zethu. Lonto isoloko iluhlobo lweNkwenkwezi yethu yaseMntla kumntu ngamnye. Kodwa eyona nto inokuthetha ngayo kukuba ngenene singaba nemfuno egqithisileyo kwaye abantu baqale ukubuyela kuyo kwaye baqale kuhambo lwabo. Ke jonga, unyaka ngamnye siye sanethagethi ezolulele ngakumbi kunonyaka ongaphambili. Kwaye kwakhona sincokola ekuqaleni komnxeba ukuba ixesha lokuqala lekhabhoni lifika esiphelweni kwaye ukusuka kwi-26 ukuya phambili ungene, njengoko beyibiza njalo, iindawo ezithile zelizwe, ukujula okuphezulu. Kwaye kufuneka senze amanani ethu ngo-2026. Yiloo ndlela ebonakala ngayo impumelelo.

[00:42:48] UJackie De Burca: Ngokuqinisekileyo, ngokupheleleyo. Ngoku ekugqibeleni, Ciarán, ngowuphi umyalezo onqwenela ukuwudlulisela kumnini-ndlu ophakathi kunye nomninimzi? Inyani yokuba sisazi ukuba bonke bakwimiba eyahlukeneyo yohambo lwabo kunye neepropathi ezahlukeneyo, kodwa banomdla wokubuyisela izinto kwakhona kodwa bonganyelwe yinkqubo. Ubuya kuthini kubo?

[00:43:05] UGqr. Ciarán Byrne: Ndithi ngena kwiwebhusayithi yethu, ie ie. Kulula ngokwenene ukuhamba, icacisa izinto ezininzi. Kwaye kukho isikhokelo somninimzi kwaye sinenkqubo yokungena kuhambo. Sithi ukuvavanya, kulungile. Ukuba unayo i-beor, mhlawumbi unengxelo yomcebisi ngaloo nto kwaye oko kujongwe kwi-asethi yekhaya lakho. Ke ngamanye amazwi, kulo naluphi na uhambo, uqala phi? Yitsho nje, umzekelo, ikhaya lakho linomlinganiselo we-D1. Kulungile. Ingxelo yomcebisi iya kukunika inqanaba eliphezulu. Kufuneka wenze ntoni kolu hlobo lwendlu?

Ngena kwiwebhusayithi yethu kwaye ufumanise, uyazi, iinkcukacha ezingaphezulu malunga noko. Sinamakhonkco kwiikontraka, kukho imali ekhoyo. Ndiyayichukumisa, kodwa andinakugxininisa ngokwaneleyo ukuba kukho amaxabiso amahle kakhulu akhoyo kuluhlu lwababoneleli kwiibhanki. Ezinye iimali-mboleko ezinexabiso eliphantsi ziyakuxhasa kuhambo lwakho. Uthetha nge-3, 3.5% yabaninzi babo. I-3.5% yemali mboleko yexabiso eliphantsi yemali. Ngena kwiwebhusayithi yethu, iya kukuxelela ukuba wenze ntoni. Unamakhonkco kwiikontraka kwaye uqale uhambo lwakho.

[00:43:58] UJackie De Burca: Ingcebiso emangalisayo. Ke mamela, Ciarán, ndicinga ukuba siza kuphinda sibambene ngoba le yimeko ekhawulezayo kwaye kuyakuvuyisa ukuhlala uthetha kwaye ubone ukuba uhambo luhamba njani kuwe. Ngaba ikhona enye into ongathanda ukuyongeza, Ciarán?

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Yayiyintoni, elona xesha lilungileyo lokwenza into yayimalunga neminyaka engama-25 eyadlulayo. Elona xesha lilungileyo lokuyenza namhlanje, uyazi, ngena kuhambo. Ngoko mamela, enkosi kakhulu. Ndiyayibulela kakhulu.

[00:44:30] UJackie De Burca: Enkosi.

La ngamazwi akhayo.