S4, E13: Building Smarter, Faster & Greener – Optimised Construction with Will Frost of Saint-Gobain

UJackie De Burca:

This is Jackie De Burca at Constructive Voices bringing you a very interesting episode where I’m speaking with Will Frost, who’s the head of public sector for Off Site solutions at Saint Gobain and he’s going to talk about how optimised construction methods, particularly panelised and off site solutions, can help tackle the UK’s housing crisis.

Manje, ngomgomo kahulumeni wokuthola amakhaya amasha ayisigidi nohhafu eminyakeni emihlanu, sihlola ukuthi yini eme endleleni nokuthi ukusungulwa okusha kungasiza kanjani ukuvala leli gebe.

Will will share how solutions like EnveoVent are already making a difference by speeding up build times, reducing carbon and supporting the upskill of traditional trades. Ingxoxo ethokozisayo ngempela futhi sizophinde sibheke ukuthi ukubambisana, ukuthenga okuhlakaniphile nokwamukela izindlela ezintsha kungaholela kanjani ezindlini ezingcono, ezisheshayo futhi ezizinzile.

Manje uzobe ukhuluma nathi ngazo zonke izinhlobo zezihloko ezishisayo nezibalulekile. Kodwa into yokuqala ngempela u-Will, ukuthi ungaqala ukusitshela kancane nje ngendima yakho enkampanini yakho?

I-Will Frost: Yebo. ngakho-ke ngisebenzela i-Saint Gobain izixazululo ezingaphandle kwe-uk egxile kakhulu emkhakheni womphakathi.

ngesihloko, ngiyinhloko yomkhakha womphakathi wezixazululo ezingaphandle kwesizinda, futhi sigxile emikhakheni yomphakathi. Isidingo sezindlu, sinikeza izixazululo. Ngenhlanganisela, yemikhiqizo eminingi ngaphakathi kwe-San Kaban kulokho okudingwa yikhasimende.

UJackie De Burca: Kulungile. Ngakho ngisho, lokho kuzwakala kukhulu ngokuphelele kumuntu ojwayelekile.

umsebenzi wakho uhlangana kanjani [00:01:00] njengokwakheka kwezwe elibanzi lokwakha izindlu, i-MMMSC e-uk? Awu,

I-Will Frost: kulungile, ngakho-ke, izindlela zesimanje zokwakha, i-MMC, iyigama eliyingqayizivele ngoba, ukusetshenziswa kwezixazululo ezinamaphaneli, Kubukeka kuphumelela kakhulu embonini ye-MMC. Ngakho-ke kulabo abangazi ukuthi i-MMC iyini, yileyo, inezigaba eziyisikhombisa.

Ngakho-ke kusukela esigabeni sokuqala kuye esigabeni sesikhombisa, isigaba sokuqala singevolumu, ngakho-ke asikho endaweni, sakhiwe futhi safakwa esizeni. Nakuba isigaba sesibili singaphezulu kwezixazululo zakho zohlobo lwe-3D. okuyindlela evumelana nezimo, futhi njengoba sibonile esimweni sezulu sase-UK, isigaba sokuqala asizange sibe nomlando oyimpumelelo futhi sibonakala sidonsa kanzima uma kuziwa ekuhlangabezaneni nezidingo zezindlu kanye nokulethwa kwazo.

Ngakho sithola [00:02:00] ngokwethu sibheke ngempela ukuthi yini esinganikela ngayo kusuka kusixazululo sepaneli ye-3D. Futhi, okusibeka ngokukhethekile kulokho ukuthi empeleni sinikeza izinhlobo ezintathu zezixazululo. Ngakho-ke hhayi nje ohlakeni lwakho lwamapulangwe. Sithanda insimbi ye-gauge kanye nefomethi enkulu yokwakhiwa kwamatshe, okuwumkhiqizo owenziwe nge-Rete, okungenye indlela yokwakha engasindi.

UJackie De Burca: Ngakho-ke kulabo abangazi, iyini ngempela i-Air Creek?

I-Will Frost: Ngakho-ke, i-air CRE iyibhulokhi likakhonkolo elilandiwe, okusobala, kanye nendlela eyodwa, isakhiwo sohlobo lwebhulokhi ejwayelekile. I-Air Creek inguqulo elula yalokho, futhi inento ephansi yekhabhoni ehlanganiswe kuyo.

ayisindi, ngakho-ke ilula kakhulu kunezindlela zendabuko, kodwa futhi zinikeza iphansi kuya odongeni, isixazululo esiphansi kuya kuphahla. Ngakho uthola amaphaneli ngamamitha angu-2.4 noma amathathu. kuyisixazululo esinephaneli kakhulu manje.

UJackie De Burca: Kulungile, ngakho-ke kubalaleli bethu emhlabeni wonke, sikhuluma ikakhulukazi mayelana [00:03:00] I-UK namuhla kanye nohulumeni bahlose ukuthola amakhaya ayisigidi nesigamu eminyakeni emihlanu ezayo.

Ngokombono wakho, ingabe, isiphi isithiyo esikhulu sokuhlangabezana nalokhu okuhlosiwe?

I-Will Frost: Angicabangi ukuthi kukhona umgoqo owodwa. Ngicabanga ukuthi yinhlanganisela yezinto.

UJackie De Burca: Mm-hmm.

I-Will Frost: Kusukela endleleni abacubungula ngayo kanye nokuphatha ukukhishwa kwezimali kulowo mkhakha. Omunye wabo.

omunye kungaba Imithethonqubo kanye nokunye ukucaca okudingekayo nxazonke, eminye yemithethonqubo kanye neziphathimandla zendawo zihlangana nje futhi zisebenzisana nezinhlangano zezindlu kancane kancane. Ngicabanga ukuthi, Mhlawumbe esinye sezithiyo ezinkulu ukuntula ukuqonda izindlela zesimanje zokwakha, noma kulokhu, isigaba sesibili ngokuqondile.

bezama ngempela ukuqonda ukuthi balinganisa kanjani ngokuqhathaniswa nendabuko futhi babona ngempela izinzuzo futhi bakwazi ngokucacile ukukhomba ukuthi yiziphi lezo zinzuzo, nokubeka inani eliphethwe kukho ukuze bakwazi ukuqhathanisa ngempela, njengokungathi [00:04:00] Njengo.

UJackie De Burca: Ngakho-ke lokho kungaxazululwa kanjani Intando, ucabanga ukuthi?

I-Will Frost: Hhayi-ke, ngicabanga ukuthi kukutholwa, kanye nozakwethu bokuphakela.

Ngakho-ke kithina, sichithe umzamo omkhulu namandla ekuvuleni izingxoxo kanye nokuba netafula eliyindilinga nalabo abathintekayo kulo mkhakha futhi sixoxisane nabo ngezinga ukuze siqonde ukuthi yini abayintulayo olwazini ukuze sikwazi ukufundisa, futhi senze kube lula inkundla yokuba bayothola lolo lwazi.

And understanding. more often than not, it’s easier to do it with a project they might be facing so we can actually show them the benefits as we’re going through right on as early as design phase right through, so that they can really embrace the full effect of a category two solution.

UJackie De Burca: Ngakho-ke ukukhuluma ngesixazululo sesigaba sesibili kuzoba nezibonelo zalokho ongatshela izethameli ngazo?

I-Will Frost: sethule umcimbi womona, kulo nyaka, okuyisixazululo esiphelele sodonga. Ngakho lokho [00:05:00] ngqo ngokugoqa okugcwele kwephaneli, isakhiwo, kanye nolayini lwangaphakathi.

senze iphrojekthi ye-Pilot e-Birmingham, lapho sihambise khona amayunithi ayi-12 futhi sahlola imikhawulo yalokho okwenzayo endaweni yokwakha. Ngakho-ke lokhu bekuyinselele ikakhulukazi ngoba bekuyindawo encane impela futhi inezinselelo ezithile ngokuphakama. singazulazula kalula ngezixazululo zethu ezinamaphaneli ukuze sikwazi ukuhlaziya izixazululo, sizilethe.

Two units, within seven days ’cause they were attached units. So that sped the process up quite well. But then also having the full, control of the supply chain from a one single source really helped with delivering to the timeline that was allowed. and in the construction industry, you know, when we’ve got weather, we’ve got weather and that really plays a part on things.

UJackie De Burca: yebo,

I-Will Frost: kokuba nalezi zixazululo, zenza ngempela. I-Claw emuva isikhathi esiningi, kodwa ingalungiseka ngokwanele ukunciphisa ezinye zazo [00:06:00] umthelela.

UJackie De Burca: Kulungile. Ngisho ukuthi, enye ingxenye, ziningi kakhulu izinselelo ezithakazelisayo okwamanje. Okunye kwalokhu amakhono kanye nokushoda kwezabasebenzi okuke kwabhekana nakho futhi kubhalwe kahle kakhulu futhi uyazi, kubi kakhulu.

Uyibona kanjani i-MMC isiza ukuvala lelo gebe? Intando.

I-Will Frost: Hhayi-ke, kuyadabukisa impela ukuthi sisebenzisa zonke lezo zisebenzi ezinamakhono futhi, abaculi kulokho abakwazi ukukwenza ngezandla zabo. Futhi ebesikwenza ukuzama ukuphuma lapho futhi sibafundise futhi sibaqeqeshe ukuze bahlele, angifuni ukusho amakhono aphezulu,

kodwa empeleni siyabahlomisa futhi sibanikeze amandla. Sebenzisa indlela yesimanje yokwakha emabhizinisini abo ukuze bakwazi ukusebenzisa indlela efanayo kodwa bangabi nengcindezi engaka ohlangothini lwabasebenzi lwezinto. Ngakho-ke ungaba neqembu elincane, labasebenzi ngeyunithi ngayinye noma ngephrojekthi ngayinye.

Ngakho-ke, uyazi, singakwazi ngempela ukusiza ngokuhlanganisa ibhuloho [00:07:00] igebe phakathi kwamakhono, empeleni ngombono wami. Abasebenzi abanamakhono ezizindeni, baqonde ukwakha, baqonde uhlobo lokwakha abakwenzayo. futhi ukulahlekelwa lokho kungaba isihawu. Ngakho-ke uma besingasiza ukubafundisa futhi sibaqeqeshe baze bafike ezingeni lapho bengasebenzisa khona izindlela ze-MMC, leyo yindlela eyodwa yokukwenza.

UJackie De Burca: Impela. Ngisho ukuthi, akuhlukile ngendlela kumuntu osebenza kukhompuyutha noma njengoba ngenza esimeni sokukhiqiza. Uyazi, sonke kufanele sithuthukise amakhono njengoba ubuchwepheshe buthuthuka, akunjalo?

I-Will Frost: yebo.

UJackie De Burca: akunandaba ngempela ukuthi iyiphi inkambo yempilo ngaphandle kokuthi, uyazi, yithi nje ukuxhumana nomphakathi esitolo noma okuthize.

Kodwa, niyazi, ngokujwayelekile, kuza kwabaningi bethu kulezi zinsuku ngoba izinto ziyahamba futhi zivela ngokushesha okukhulu, akunjalo?

I-Will Frost: Nakanjani. futhi esimweni lapho, Izindlela Zokwakha Zanamuhla, empeleni ngikhetha ukungawabizi izindlela zesimanje zokwakha, kodwa kunalokho okwenziwe, ukwakhiwa.

Ngoba uma unjalo, njengoba ubusho ngaphambili, sonke kufanele sithuthukise amakhono ngesikhathi esithile ngoba [00:08:00] ubuchwepheshe buhamba phambili nakho konke okunye okusizungezile kuhamba ngesivinini esikhulu, ikakhulukazi kusukela emhlabeni kanye nomphetho wedijithali. Uyazi, sidinga ukusebenzisa uhlobo olufanayo lwejubane embonini futhi, indlela engcono kakhulu yokwenza lokho iwukuba uthuthukise kusukela kozakwethu bokuthenga kuze kube sekupheleni.

ngokombono wokukhiqiza, abakhiqizi bakho bangawuthuthukisa kanjani umkhiqizo wabo kangcono? Ngakho singanciphisa ukumosha ukuze sinciphise isikhathi, futhi sisebenze ngokuphepha. ekugcineni, yisikhathi esithakazelisayo ngoba lokho kuphoqelelwa emakethe isikhathi eside kakhulu. Isekelwe emcabangweni wendabuko, futhi manje iyashintsha.

UJackie De Burca: Ikona. ngokusobala ukukhuluma ngokushesha ngakho, ukukhulisa ikhono lakho kwabasebenzi bendabuko, lokho bekungaba yinto edlalwa ku-VO vent futhi, akunjalo?

I-Will Frost: Yebo, kwakunjalo ngempela. kunezinzuzo eziningi kulezi zinhlobo zezixazululo futhi enye yalezo iwukuba, hhayi ukuphonsa othile ekugcineni okujulile.

uhlobo lwamakhono [00:09:00] okudingekayo wukuthuthuka olwazini lwabo kanye nokuqonda kwamanje kokufakwayo. iphinde isuse ezinye zezici zobungozi kanye nesikhathi eduze kwalokho. Ngakho endabeni yomcimbi we-envi, ukukwazi, emva kwabo indwangu, igobolondo, isakhiwo esiphezulu, ukusho kanjalo.

Njengoba, amandla okuguquguquka kwesimo sezulu ahlinzekele konke okuhambisanayo, ukuhweba kuza njengamafasitela namathayela ophahleni, ungakwazi ukusheshisa lokho kucutshungulwa ngendlela emangalisayo futhi ubakhulule isikhathi esengeziwe sokuyokwenza umsebenzi owengeziwe.

UJackie De Burca: Kulungile. Ngakho-ke njengesiqhathaniso esiqondile, ungasho ukuthini ngokwesikhathi ngokwesiko kungaba u-X inani lesikhathi bese ngokwakhiwa okuthuthukisiwe njengoba ubhekisela kukho, kungaba yinani lesikhathi?

I-Will Frost: Ngakho nginesibonelo samanje engingakwazi ukwabelana ngaso. iklayenti lethu likwazile ukuhlonza ukuthi ngokusebenzisa uhlelo olufana nomcimbi we-NB, lingonga kufika emavikini ayisithupha ohlelweni lwalo lokwakha olujwayelekile. Okungukuthi, uma usebenza ngezinga lakho lezabasebenzi elaziwayo, kukhona a [00:10:00] ukonga izindleko ezibalulekile ngesikhathi sabasebenzi, kodwa hhayi ukulahlekelwa abasebenzi, ngomqondo ongokomfanekiso.

UJackie De Burca: Impela, yebo. Cha, cha, lokho kwenza umqondo omkhulu. Yiziphi ezinye zezithiyo namathuba uma kuziwa ekukhulisweni kule ndlela yokwakha izindlu?

I-Will Frost: ukuthengwa kwempahla kuyathakazelisa impela ngoba njengelungu elisebenzayo, indima ochungechungeni lokuthengwa kwempahla nomkhakha, kufanele sinyuse isivinini.

kufanele ngempela. Qiniseka ukuthi amakhasimende ethu namakhasimende athola ukusebenza kanye nekhwalithi ayifunayo noma ayidingayo. ngokombono wokuthengwa kwempahla, enye yalezo zithiyo empeleni wukubala ukusebenza kanye nesikhathi kwizabelomali zangempela zamaphrojekthi abanazo.

ekuqaleni, i-MMC noma i-Modern Methods Construction, kimina, ukwakhiwa okuthuthukisiwe ngaphambili, kunezindleko eziphezulu. Kodwa yingoba. izindwangu zenzelwe ngendlela yokuthi zingakwazi ukunciphisa izindleko zokusebenza kanye nokugcinwa isikhathi eside kwesakhiwo. kanjalo nabo [00:11:00] offset nomunye kuyaqabukela.

kodwa yilokho okusengaphambili kokuqala, okufanele sisebenzisane namakhasimende ethu kangcono kancane. futhi yilokho esikwenza kahle kakhulu, sizama ngempela ukuqonda izidingo zabo futhi sibheke ngempela ukuthi yini abazama ukuyifinyelela ukuze sikwazi ukubasondeza kulowo mgomo ngaphakathi kwesabelomali. Kunzima ukubuza ngoba, akukho okusafana, yonke into iyanda.

Kukhona ukungaqiniseki kwezomnotho, ngesikhathi sakho konke lokhu, ngakho-ke abantu basebenza ngesabelomali esincane kakhulu.

UJackie De Burca: Yebo, kunjalo. yileso simo, imboni ekuso njengamanje. ziningi nje izinguquko ezinkulu azikho

I-Will Frost: kukhona, niyazi, inselele enkulu uhulumeni ufuna ukukhiqiza 1.5 million amakhaya, okuyilapho kudingeka sibe khona, ukuze senze umthelela ngempela ukushoda, in the.

We call it a crisis in the UK for housing. the knock on effect of that is so dire. And the more you look into it, the more it becomes, of an importance to really get a solution or find some way of building so that we can deliver on time and one method of [00:12:00] ukwakhiwa ukunikeza konke lokho.

kodwa kumane kuwukuntula ukuqonda izinzuzo.

UJackie De Burca: Hmm. Kulungile. Ngakho-ke yebo, kufana nokuthi, njengoba ushilo ekuqaleni, kufana nokufundisa, abathintekayo abahlukahlukene emgqeni futhi sibheke iqiniso lokuthi, uyazi, njengamanje e-UK kunabantu abangaphezu kwesigidi ohlwini lokulinda izindlu zomphakathi.

I-Will Frost: Yebo. Uyazi, izingane eziyizinkulungwane eziyi-150 ezihlala ezindaweni zesikhashana. Yebo, kuyathusa lokho. Kwakungekho ukuphaphama okukhulu okwesabekayo kunalokho

UJackie De Burca: yilokho kuphela. Cha, kunjalo, akukholakali. Ikakhulukazi endaweni efana ne-uk, uyazi? Yebo. Okuhloswe ukuba kube umphakathi othuthuke kangaka.

ngakho-ke ucabanga ukuthi yiziphi izinselelo ezinkulu zokulethwa kwabahlinzeki bezindlu zomphakathi?

I-Will Frost: Angikwazi ukukhulumela izinhlangano zezindlu ngokuqondile, kodwa, njengoba sisochungechungeni lokuthengwa kwempahla nazo, siyakuqonda ngempela ukukhungatheka kwazo kuyo yonke inqubo yokuthengwa kwempahla futhi ngokubonga, umthetho omusha wokuthenga usunguliwe ukuze ubasize bakwazi ukulawula indlela imali yabo esetshenziswa ngayo egameni lakho konke ukunikezwa. [00:13:00] iketanga.

futhi okwesibili, kuyenzeka ngempela, Beka ubunikazi kancane kubo ukuze bakhethe kakhudlwana izixazululo ezifanele, uhlobo olufanele, izinto zokwakha kanye nemikhiqizo abangayisebenzisa. futhi kunjalo. badinga ukulawula okwengeziwe kulokho abazama ukukunikeza.

UJackie De Burca: Kulungile. Futhi ngokusobala ukuthola uxhaso kuncike.

I-Will Frost: Ngizozama ukukugwema lokho. Kodwa lokho kuyinto abalwa nayo futhi

UJackie De Burca: Yebo.

I-Will Frost: more money’s being released to them and, you know, when you look at the funds being released to the amount of houses, there’s still a disconnect in trying to quantify and make that balance.

Ngicabanga ukuthi sibale, engxoxweni yetafula eyindilinga ukuthi ukushaya ukuthi ubheke ndawana thize eduze kophawu lwamaphawundi ayizigidi eziyizinkulungwane ezi-5. Ngiyaqonda ukuthi izinto kufanele zihlelwe futhi, nezinto ezinjengalezo, kepha uma sizobhekana nenkinga, ngalezi zigidi zabantu abasohlwini lokulinda kanye nezingane eziyi-159,000 ezihlala ezindaweni zesikhashana, sidinga ukushesha kakhulu futhi [00:14:00] enolaka.

UJackie De Burca: Manje uma ubheka phambili izinga le-Will to Future Home, iziphi izinhlobo zedizayini noma ukukhetha kwezinto ezibonakalayo ozibona zibalulekile ukuze kuthotshelwe, ikakhulukazi esikalini?

I-Will Frost: Ngakho-ke sinayo, iphrojekthi ye-E home two eNyuvesi yaseSulford eyaklanywa ngokukhethekile futhi yakhiwa ekamelweni ukuze kuhlolwe ukuhlukahluka kokuthi indlu kufanele yenze kanjani futhi, hlobo luni lwezakhi okudingeka sizilungise futhi uma sizilungisa, ingabe indlu isebenza kanjani?

konke kuqala kimi ngendwangu. Ngakho izindinganiso zasekhaya zesikhathi esizayo nokusebenza kwendwangu akukashintshi. Ngakho-ke isekuvelu engu-0.18 U. Futhi yilokho abaningi abazobe bekwakhela kulobo buncane. Kodwa esikuzwayo kumakhasimende ethu kanye nesethi yemakethe, ukuthi adinga ukuba nendwangu esebenza kangcono ukuze ihambisane nendlela abangashisisa ngayo izindlu.

Futhi isizathu sokuthi badinga okungcono, ukwenza indwangu ukugcina lokho nokuyiphatha kangcono. uyazi, [00:15:00] kuyindaba, umkhakha wezindlu zomphakathi. Awukwazi, ubeka ubuchwepheshe obuphambili kakhulu endaweni yokubushisa futhi kungase kube khona umuntu ongaqondi ukuthi ubuchwepheshe futhi bungagcina bubiza imali ethe xaxa ukuyiqhuba.

Ngakho-ke kumayelana nokukhuluma ngendwangu yakho. idizayini yomkhiqizi izoba eyokuqala nokuhamba phambili. Ngakho-ke ukuhlanganyela nomkhiqizi wokuthengwa kwempahla, uzakwethu esigabeni sokuklama ukuze sikwazi ukucabangela izici zokusebenza zaleso sakhiwo. Ngokushesha ngangokunokwenzeka, kunganciphisa ukukhungatheka okuningi.

UJackie De Burca: Hmm, okay. So obviously, you know, looking at the effects on the environment is one, you know, one huge factor. The other is, you know, warmer, warmer houses that are cheaper to run are particularly important for people who are on lower incomes. how will does something like a complete external wall solution help make that a reality?

I-Will Frost: Hhayi-ke, umcimbi we-envi uhlukile kulokho [00:16:00] zivela emthonjeni owodwa. Ihlanganiswe nemikhiqizo eminingi yebhendi ye-Sanka. Ihlolwe ngokuphelele. uyazi, senze inani lokuhlola kulokhu, akunjalo? Kusukela kuma-acoustics, ukumelana nomlilo, ukuhlolwa komthelela. futhi yileyo nto.

Ngakho-ke uma uthola indwangu noma i-superstructure, iyahlangana futhi iyahlangana. Imibandela yokugcina futhi ihambisane nemigomo yeklayenti mayelana nokuba nokuthile okuzosiza ngalezo zinkinga abanazo ngezindleko zokusebenza nezinto ezinjalo.

UJackie De Burca: Kulungile. Manje asikwazi ukugwema amagoli ayiziro, emhlabeni esiphila kuwo njengamanje.

Izinhloso eziphelele zinguziro, ziphusha ngempela wonke umuntu emkhakheni ukuthi acabange kabusha ukuthi sakha kanjani. Uzizwa kanjani abakhi bezindlu banganciphisa ikhabhoni ehlanganisiwe ngenkathi beletha ngesivinini esidingekayo kanye nevolumu?

I-Will Frost: Ivolumu? Hhayi-ke, kungokwemvelo ukusebenzisa. izinto eziningi ezingaphansi kwe-carbon bodyed ngangokunokwenzeka.

Sibheka umcimbi we-ND, we [00:17:00] isibonelo. ngokwekhabhoni ehlanganisiwe enohlaka lwamapulangwe iphansi kakhulu kunaleyo, yokwakha yendabuko. Ngakho-ke, uyazi, lokho kunciphisa phakathi, ngikholwa ukuthi kuphakathi kokufika ku-70%,

Ukuncishiswa kulokho. ngakho-ke yebo, kubaluleke kakhulu, Kubalulekile ukuthi sithole izindlela zokuletha amakhaya angcono emhlabeni. uma sibheka izinga lekhaya lesikhathi esizayo, okuhlosiwe ukulinciphisa, ukuncipha kwekhabhoni ngama-75 kuya kwangama-80% uma kuqhathaniswa nezindlu ezakhelwe ngo-2013 njengoba kugunyazwe kuDokhumenti L.

ngakho uma kwenzeka, ngokwesibonelo, ekunciphiseni okuhlanganisiwe ukuphuma kwekhabhoni, cishe u-20%. uma uyihlephula ibe yindwangu kuqala, bese kuba khona zonke izinto zokugoqa ezihambisanayo kanye nezici zokufaka ezingehlisa lokho nakakhulu.

UJackie De Burca: Okay. Now of course there is a fair bit of discussion around the sustainability [00:18:00] wezingodo. Uthini owakho umbono ngokusuka e-Virgin Timber futhi yiziphi ezinye izindlela ozijabulela ngazo?

I-Will Frost: Lona, umbuzo othakazelisayo ngempela ngoba, uyazi, ngalesi sikhathi ngokuhamba kwesikhathi, i-Virgin Timber iyadingeka, ngenxa nje ye.

Ukuntuleka kokutholakala kwezinye izindlela zesakhiwo laphaya, kodwa intuthuko yesimanje, emiculweni yokhuni ehlanganiswe namapulasitiki nezinto ezinjalo, ibonakala izuza kancane kancane. Ngakho-ke ngijabule kakhulu ukubona ezinye zentuthuko ezenziwe, ukusetshenziswa kwe-bamboo, esimisweni sohlobo lwepulangwe yesakhiwo.

ngoba ngokusobala, uyazi, konke kuhle ukufuna ezinye izixazululo futhi sidinga, kodwa kufanele zikwazi ukusebenza futhi zigcine izakhamuzi ziphephile.

UJackie De Burca: Kulungile. Ngakho-ke ingabe unazo izibonelo ezithile zokusebenzisa uqalo oke wahlangabezana nalo emsebenzini wakho?

I-Will Frost: Ngiyibonile isetshenziswa futhi [00:19:00] iphinde yakhiwe kabusha yaba yibhamu yesakhiwo esihle kakhulu esiminyana kakhulu, nayo engasindi, ngisho ukuthi,

UJackie De Burca: izakhiwo ezimangalisayo, akunjalo?

I-Will Frost: Kunjalo, kuyenzeka. Futhi, futhi uyazi, he, isizinda sami sangaphambili sisokhuni, ubuchwepheshe, thina, sahlangana nakho ngenxa nje yekhono layo lokukhula ngokushesha futhi.

Ukuhlinzeka ngokuhlukahluka, kokuqinisa i-com, izakhiwo, kodwa, kodwa futhi, i-carbon ephansi, ivelele. ngakho-ke kuleli qophelo, asikaboni lutho, ukusetshenziswa kwezixazululo zokhuni lwe-bamboo ngendlela yokwakha, ngoba ngicabanga ukuthi izindleko azikakabi khona. Mm-hmm. Kodwa iyodwa okumele uyiqaphele.

UJackie De Burca: nakanjani. Manje uma sibuyela kulokho okuthandwa yiziphathimandla zendawo, ingabe izinhlangano zezindlu ezicubungula lokho ngokwesiko okubizwa nge-MMC futhi ngokusobala nikubiza ngokuthuthukisa ukwakhiwa, kungaba yisiphi iseluleko ongasinikeza ukubasiza bathathe isinyathelo esilandelayo?

I-Will Frost: Ngingathi, [00:20:00] finyelela ekuthengeni kwakho noma kozakwethu, uchungechunge lwakho lokuhlinzeka futhi uthole ukuthi hlobo luni.

ukuhlolwa okuhlobene nokusebenza, bangaqinisekisa futhi baqinisekise ngezindlela zemodeli yokwakha. lezi zixazululo njengomcimbi we-envi zakhiwe ngenhloso. Ukusheshisa inqubo esizeni ukunikeza indlu enhle kakhulu, eqinile, kodwa futhi nokuhambisana nokugcinwa kwayo ngemva kwalokho.

Ngakho-ke, ziqonde ngempela izixazululo ofisa ukwehla futhi uqiniseke ukuthi zifinyelela ezingeni olindele ukuthi zifike kulo, nokuthi zingasekelwa.

UJackie De Burca: Hmm. Kulungile. Unyaka odumile owabonakala eminyakeni embalwa edlule, kude kakhulu esikhathini esizayo sika-2030, okungukuthi

Five years away. Right. Now, as we’re recording in 2025, what does success look like? In terms of house building, sustainability and social housing,

I-Will Frost: okukodwa, ukwehla okukhulu kwenani [00:21:00] labantu abalinde amakhaya. Mm-hmm. ekuzibophezeleni okwengeziwe kweziphathimandla zendawo kanye nohulumeni ekusebenziseni, izindlela zesimanje zokwakha kanye nokuthi kube yinjwayelo.

Uyazi? Ngicabanga ukuthi Sesidlulile ephuzwini lembuyiselo yokuzama ukusindisa izindlela zomdabu, izindlela zokwakha futhi sidinga ngempela ukugxila kulokho okwenziwa manje emakethe futhi siqinisekise ukuthi, woza u-2030 sifinyelela imigomo. lelo izinga eliphezulu lempumelelo, akunjalo?

Usho ukuthi uma usukwazi ukushaya ithagethi ngezakhiwo ezisezingeni eliphezulu nezisebenza kahle, yilokho-ke.

UJackie De Burca: Yilokho kuphela. Yilokho ngokuphelele. Futhi ngethemba, ngethemba ukuthi uma siphinda sikhuluma eminyakeni emihlanu, sizokwazi ukumbambathana emhlane futhi sithi, lokho kuzuziwe ngempela.

Ingabe kukhona enye i-Will, onomuzwa wokuthi ungathanda ukuyengeza? Uyazi, ukumboza, ukuthi asizange sikuhlanganise ngesikhathi senkulumo yethu, inkulumo yethu namuhla,

I-Will Frost: Mina, ngingathanda ukugcizelela ngempela, izixazululo ezifana nomcimbi waseNdiya. bona, ba [00:22:00] yakhelwe ngokukhethekile futhi, uyazi, ukuvinjelwa okuphonswe insiza eningi kuyo.

Ukuhlanganisa izinto ukuze kunikeze imakethe isixazululo esihle, isixazululo esisebenza ngempela abangathembela kuso. Sikulethile. Siyihlolile, sayisekela ngesitifiketi. kuwo wonke ama-engeli. Ngakho-ke, uyazi, kuyinto okufanele ucabange ngayo uma ubheka izindlela eziningi.

Khohlwa ukuzama ukuqonda nokuthethelela ukuthi kuyini imali yokuqala, kodwa okubaluleke kakhulu, abantu abazohlala kuleyo ndlu futhi yakhiwe ngomcimbi womona. Unesixazululo somkhiqizo lapho esizokwenza ngempela esikushoyo.

UJackie De Burca: Kulungile. Ngisho, lokho ngokusobala, into ebaluleke kakhulu kanye neqiniso lokuthi, njengoba ushilo ekuqaleni ku-Will, sikhuluma ngezikhathi ezihluke ngokuphelele, okwenza iqiniso lokufeza lezi zinhloso eziyinselele kube yinto ebesingayenza. [00:23:00] mhlawumbe cabanga

I-Will Frost: Kulungile.

UJackie De Burca: Kumnandi. bekukuhle ukukhuluma nawe futhi ngizizwa ngifunde okuningi ngempela namuhla. Ngiyabonga, ngiyabonga kakhulu ngesikhathi sakho.

I-Will Frost: ngiyabonga, ngiyabonga ngokuba nami.

UJackie De Burca: Ngibona kakhulu.