S3, E6: Eserese gaa n'ọdịdị ala-atụmatụ n'ọdịdị ala iji megharịa ọdịnihu anyị, Alexandra Steed n'akwụkwọ na-agbaji ala ya, akụkụ 1
- Jackie De Burca
- July 1, 2024
S3, E6: Eserese gaa n'ọdịdị ala-atụmatụ n'ọdịdị ala iji megharịa ọdịnihu anyị, Alexandra Steed n'akwụkwọ na-agbaji ala ya, akụkụ 1
Alexandra Steed Podcast
Onye edemede na-agbaji ala, Alexandra Steed, na-agwa Jackie De Burca okwu n'usoro nke pọdkastị anọ na-abanye n'ime akwụkwọ ya mara mma. O nwekwara jiri mmesapụ aka kwenye inyefe akwụkwọ ya iri iri. Jide n'aka ịbanye n'elu.
Gee ntị Nkebi nke 1 n'okpuru. Ihe odide ahụ dị n'ihu n'okpuru.
Ihe omume nke mbụ na-enye nghọta dị ukwuu n'ime echiche ndị ị ga-achọpụta n'akwụkwọ a. Onye ode akwụkwọ kọwara ụfọdụ n'ime isi ụkpụrụ ndị a na-egosipụta. De Burca na-agwa ya okwu n'ụzọ zuru ezu banyere Part 1 nke Eserese gaa n'ọdịdị ala-atụmatụ n'ọdịdị ala iji megharịa ọdịnihu anyị.
Enwere akụ na ụba ị ga-amụta ma kparịta maka akwụkwọ a na-emebi emebi. Ya mere, ihe omume pọdkastị ọ bụla na-enyocha otu akụkụ anọ nke mbipụta a na-akpa ike.
Enwere ike ịchọta akụkụ 2 ebe a.
Joanne Proft, Onye ntụzi aka onye isi, atụmatụ obodo | Campus + Community Planning na Mahadum British Columbia kwuru:
"Alexandra Steed na-enye arụmụka na-akpali akpali, nyocha nke ọma na nke na-akpali akpali maka ịchọta ọdịnihu maka ndụ n'ụwa - site n'ime mgbanwe dị mkpa na mmekọrịta anyị na okike, site na nleba anya na-ese onyinyo onwe onye gaa n'ọhụụ mbara ala dum."
Banyere Eserese gaa n'ọdịdị ala: Atụmatụ ọdịdị ala iji megharịa ọdịnihu anyị:
Eserese gaa n'ọdịdị ala: Atụmatụ ọdịdị ala iji megharịa ọdịnihu anyị bụ ọrụ na-emebi emebi nke onye na-ese ụkpụrụ ụlọ ama ama dere. Ọ na-ama anyị aka ịgbanwe n'ụzọ bụ isi mmekọrịta anyị na ụwa eke, na-egosipụta ụzọ zuru oke maka ịgwọ ụwa site n'ịgbasa ma mgbaàmà ma ihe na-akpata mbibi gburugburu ebe obibi.
Using the metaphor of a narrow, self-focused portrait versus a wide-angle landscape view, the book sheds light on the profound impact of our limited perspective. It offers practical strategies for policymakers, activists, and individuals to protect and restore landscapes, emphasising collaboration and long-term stewardship.
Akwụkwọ a na-akpali akpali na-akpali ndị na-agụ akwụkwọ ka ha nyochaa njikọ ha na okike ma tinye aka na mmegharị ahụ maka ọdịnihu ga-adịgide adịgide, na-eme ka ọ bụrụ ihe a ga-agụ maka onye ọ bụla na-achọ nghọta miri emi banyere ọnọdụ anyị n'ụwa na otú anyị nwere ike isi biri na ya. n'iguzosi ike n'ezi ihe.
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Banyere Alexandra Steed
Alexandra Steed, onye na-ese ụkpụrụ odida obodo na onye otu Ala Nchọpụta Ala (FLI) na ndị Royal Society of Arts (FRSA), nwere nnukwu ntinye aka na nka, nkwado, na ike mgbanwe nke odida obodo.
Na 2013, ọ tọrọ ntọala Ụlọ ihe nkiri URBAN dị na London n'ebumnobi nke iweta ọńụ na ndụ ndị mmadụ kwa ụbọchị site na odida obodo design that enhances beauty and fosters well-being. Steed actively advises and serves on expert panels for organisations such as the Design Council UK na Ụlọ ọrụ gọọmentị UK maka ebe.
Dị ka onye nkuzi na Bartlett, UCL, Ọ na-ekerịta ihe ọmụma ya ma wepụta oge ya iji kwado ọhụụ ime obodo. Onyinye pụrụiche Steed nyere n'ichebe odida obodo enwetala ihe nrite ama ama, gụnyere ndị Ihe nrite WAFX maka ngwọta zuru ụwa ọnụ ọhụrụ na Onyinye LI maka Ọkachamma n'ịlụso mgbanwe ihu igwe ọgụ.
Ọzọkwa, E depụtara ya aha maka ihe nrite Sir David Attenborough, na-egosipụta nraranye ya n'ichekwa na ịkwalite ihe di iche iche na gburugburu ebe obibi. Ọ bụ onye dere akwụkwọ na-emebi emebi "Portrait to Landscape: Strategy Landscape Strategy to Reframe Our Future."
Gosi ndetu 3, nkeji nke isii
Okwu Mmalite
- Oge: [00:01:24]
- Okwu mmalite: Jackie De Burca na-anabata Alexandra Steed, onye ode akwụkwọ na onye na-ese ụkpụrụ ala.
- Okwu mmalite ndị ọbịa: A matara Alexandra maka akwụkwọ ya, nke na-enye nghọta miri emi banyere ụkpụrụ odida obodo na ikike mgbanwe ya.
- Mpempe akwụkwọ nyocha: Akwụkwọ a na-atụgharị anya anyị site na nleba anya nke na-eche selfie gaa na nlegharị anya odida obodo zuru oke.
Ihe ndabere nkeonwe na ọkachamara
- Oge: [00:02:29]
- Nghọta nkeonwe:
- Ịhụnanya Alexandra maka okike na nka.
- Nne nke ụmụ nwoke abụọ.
- Njem ọkachamara:
- Ihe karịrị afọ 25 na nhazi ihu ala.
- Mmụta: Mahadum nke British Columbia na nka na ihe owuwu ala.
- Isi ọrụ:
- Na-arụ ọrụ na City of Vancouver Greenways Department.
- Ahụmahụ n'ime ime obodo na ọrụ mba ụwa.
- Tọrọ ntọala omume nke ya, Urban, na 2013.
Mkparịta ụka akwụkwọ
- Oge: [00:06:01]
- Ihe mkpali maka ide:
- Jisiri ike dee akwụkwọ ahụ ekele maka otu nkwado na omume ya.
- Enwere mmetụta ngwa ngwa iji lebara echiche ndị dị mkpa gbasara ọdịdị na ọdịdị ala.
- Aha akwụkwọ: "Ihe osise gaa n'ọdịdị ala: Atụmatụ ọdịdị ala iji megharịa ọdịnihu anyị"
- Uche: Chegharịa site na nlele “eserese” lekwasịrị anya onwe ya gaa n'echiche “ọdịdị ala” sara mbara, gụnyere.
- Nchịkọta ọdịnaya:
- Ọhụụ maka mmekọrịta ọhụrụ na okike.
- Nyocha nke ihe ịma aka gburugburu ebe obibi ugbu a.
- Ụkpụrụ imewe na omume ndị bụ isi maka ọdịnihu mmeghari.
- Ndị na-ege ntị:
- N'ofe ndị na-ese ụkpụrụ ala.
- Ọhaneze ọha iji ghọta mkpa odida obodo.
Ọnọdụ gburugburu ugbu a
- Oge: [00:12:27]
- Uru Net Didiversity:
- Iwu ọhụrụ n'England na-egosi nzọụkwụ n'ịkwado mkpa odida obodo dị na mmepe.
- Mmekọrịta mmadụ na okike:
- Ọdịda Anyanwụ dualistic ele: Ụmụ mmadụ vs. okike.
- Mkpa ịmata njikọ dị n'etiti ma gaa n'ihu na mmekọrịta mmekọrịta na okike.
Ndụmọdụ bara uru maka ijikọ na okike
- Oge: [00:21:31]
- Aro:
- Tinye ọdịdị n'ime usoro ihe omume kwa ụbọchị, ọbụlagodi na ntọala obodo.
- Họrọ ụzọ njem ndị na-acha akwụkwọ ndụ akwụkwọ ndụ, nwee ihe ọkụkụ n'ebe obibi, na itinye aka n'ọrụ ugbo.
- Obere mgbanwe nwere ike iduga njikọ miri emi na okike ka oge na-aga.
Nghọta echiche
- Oge: [00:27:17]
- Analogy Sistemu Ọhụụ mmadụ:
- Ma ihe anyị na-ahụ na echiche anyị na-emetụta echiche anyị.
- Nrụpụta ndị dị mfe na-edugakarị n'echiche abụọ, nke kwesịrị iji nghọta dị mgbagwoju anya dochie anya njikọ.
- Mgbasawanye okirikiri nke ọmịiko:
- N'ike mmụọ nsọ nke Einstein, na-emesi ike mkpa ọ dị ịnabata na ịzụlite mmekọrịta anyị na okike.
mmechi
- Echiche na-emechi:
- Oku Arụ Ọrụ: Mee ka ọ dị ngwa ngwa na mkpa ọ dị n'ịgbanwe echiche anyị n'ihe okike maka ọdịnihu ga-adigide yana njikọkọ ọnụ.
- Mkparịta ụka n'ọdịnihu: Enwere ike ịgagharị isiokwu ndị a n'ime ihe ndị ga-eme n'ọdịnihu iji hụ ọganihu na mgbanwe n'echiche na atumatu gburugburu ebe obibi.
Mpempe akwụkwọ ndegharị Oge 3, Nkeji 6
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[00:00:00] Ọkà okwu A: Constructive Voices, the podcast for the construction people with news, views and expert interviews.
Charlotte Dancer: Nke a bụ Charlotte Dancer maka olu na-ewuli elu. Ihe omume nke taa nwere Alexandra Stead, onye e depụtara aha maka ihe nrite Sir David Attenborough, na-akọwapụta nraranye ya n'ichekwa na ịkwalite ụdị ndụ dị iche iche na gburugburu ebe obibi.
Ọ bụ onye ama ama, ọtụtụ ihe nrite na-emeri ihe nrịba ama na onye dere akwụkwọ akụkọ na-agbawa agbawa na atụmatụ odida obodo iji megharịa ọdịnihu anyị.
[00:00:32] Maxwell Alves: Nke a bụ Maxwell Alves, bụkwa ebe a iji nabata gị na usoro akwụkwọ mbụ nke Constructive Voices.
Joanne Proft, onye ntụzịaka otu, atụmatụ obodo Campus tinyere atụmatụ obodo na Mahadum British Columbia, kwuru maka akwụkwọ a, Alexandra.
[00:00:46] Charlotte DancerStead na-enye arụmụka na-akpali akpali, nyocha nke ọma na nke mmụọ maka ichebe ọdịnihu maka ndụ n'ụwa site n'ime mgbanwe dị mkpa na mmekọrịta anyị na okike site na nleba anya eserese selfie gaa n'ọdịdị ọdịdị ala.
[00:01:00] Maxwell Alves: Ihe omume a bụ nke mbụ n'ime usoro akụkụ anọ nke na-enyocha nke ọma n'ime akwụkwọ akụkọ dị egwu na atụmatụ odida obodo iji megharịa ọdịnihu anyị.
[00:01:08] Charlotte Dancer: Onye edemede ahụ ejiriwo mmesapụ aka nye akwụkwọ iri maka onyinye anyị. Jide n'aka na ị ga-elele ozi na webụsaịtị Voices constructive dash voices.com yana na mgbasa ozi ọha - Jackie de Burca kwadoro.
[00:01:24] Jackie De Burca: Yabụ na enwere m obi ụtọ na anyị na Alexandra Stead nọ taa. Ọ bụ onye edemede nke akwụkwọ ịtụnanya nke m chọtara n'ụzọ zuru oke ibu na ibu nke pearl amamihe na ya. Ugbu a, ọ bụ ya bụ onye dere akwụkwọ ahụ m kwuburu okwu ya. Agaghị m enye gị aha n'ihi na aha a pụrụ nnọọ iche, ọ masịrị m ka Alexandra kwuo banyere ya n'onwe ya. Agbanyeghị, naanị mmalite nke otu nlebanya m nwetara na Alexandra Stead na-enye arụmụka na-akpali akpali, nyocha nke ọma na nke mmụọ maka ichebe ọdịnihu maka ndụ n'ụwa site n'ime mgbanwe dị mkpa na mmekọrịta anyị na okike site na eserese selfie. nleba anya na nleba anya odida obodo niile. Nke mbụ, Alexandra, ọ ga-amasị m ịkele gị nke ukwuu maka ịnọ ebe a taa. Ma ọ bụrụ na ị ga-achọ ịkọwapụta onye ị bụ ma nkeonwe yana ọkachamara.
[00:02:29] Alexandra Steed: Oh, daalụ, Jackie. Ọ bụ ihe na-atọ ụtọ ka mụ na gị na-ekwurịta okwu.
Ọfọn, nke ọma, ya mere onwe ya na ọkachamara. Abụ m onye hụrụ okike n'anya, abụ m onye na-ahụ maka nka n'anya, abụkwa m nne nke ụmụ nwoke abụọ m hụrụ n'anya.
Ma echere m na ọ bụ ihe jikọrọ ya na m niile. A bụ m onye na-ese ụkpụrụ ụlọ ugbu a ihe dị ka afọ iri abụọ na ise ma na-enwe mmasị na ya ugbu a dị ka m dịbu. O nyere m ohere itinye ịhụnanya m maka nka n'ime ihe m chere bụ usoro kachasị mma. Na nke ahụ na-arụ ọrụ na ala n'onwe ya ma na-akpụ akpụ na imekọ ihe ọnụ na ụwa dị ndụ iji mepụta ọrụ nkà ndị a dị ndụ bụ otú m si ahụ ya. Yabụ na nke ahụ bụ ihe na-atọ m ụtọ nke ukwuu.
[00:03:23] Jackie De Burca: M ga-ekwu naanị banyere ihe atụ gị na akwụkwọ. Ha mara oke mma.
[00:03:28] Alexandra Steed: Oh, daalụ nke ukwuu. Achọpụtara m na ha na-enye aka n'ezie ịkọwapụta echiche ndị ahụ, ọbụlagodi maka onwe m, mana maka ndị ọzọ.
[00:03:37] Jackie De Burca: N'ezie, n'ezie. Ya mere, ka anyị kwuo ntakịrị gbasara nzụlite ọkachamara gị. Ị nwere omume nke gị yana doro anya ịbụ onye edemede, yabụ ka anyị chọpụta ntakịrị ihe gbasara akụkụ gị.
[00:03:52] Alexandra Steed: Right. Ọ dị mma, dị ka m kwuru, anọwo m na ngalaba nke ihe owuwu ala ihe dị ka afọ 25 ugbu a. Agụrụ m akwụkwọ na Mahadum British Columbia dị na Vancouver, bụ́ ebe m gụcharalarị akara mmụta na nkà. Ma mgbe ahụ, ekpebiri m na m chọrọ iwere ụdị nka m n'ime ọha na eze na n'ime odida obodo iji mee ihe m na-ahụ anya dị ka ihe osise kacha emekọrịta ihe na ahụmahụ.
Ya mere, anọ m na-eme nke ahụ kemgbe afọ 25. Na mbụ, arụrụ m ọrụ n'obodo Vancouver Greenways ngalaba, bụ́ nke n'oge ahụ bụ nnọọ ihe ọhụrụ echiche iji mebie. engineering and planning, and then to bring landscape and arthem into that, to create cycling and pedestrian routes through the whole city. So to create a network of these green and beautiful routes that people could travel through the city on. So I did that for a few years, and then I moved to London 20 years ago, and I worked in a variety of practices there. I first worked in an urban design practice. Then I worked with a wonderful landscape architect named Martha Schwartz and ended up running her studio in London.
Ma mgbe ahụ, mụ na Aecom rụkọrọ ọrụ, ana m agbakwa ụlọ ọrụ mmepụta ihe n'ebe ahụ, enwekwara m ohere dị ukwuu n'ebe ahụ iji rụọ ọrụ na mba ụwa na inwe ahụmahụ na-arụ ọrụ n'ọtụtụ dị ukwuu. Ọrụ ndị anyị rụrụ dị nnọọ ukwuu. Ya mere, m wetara m ụdị ahụmahụ ahụ niile mgbe m malitere omume nke m a na-akpọ Urban azụ na 2013. M wee mee nke ahụ n'ihi na m nwere mmasị na ịmepụta gburugburu iji mee ka mma na ọṅụ na ndụ ndị mmadụ kwa ụbọchị.
Yabụ na nke ahụ bụ ihe m na-arụ ọrụ kemgbe ahụ.
[00:05:48] Jackie De Burca: Ya mere, ee, ihe akụkọ dị ịtụnanya. Gịnịkwa butere gị, nke mbụ, ide akwụkwọ? N'ihi na, n'ezie, ị na-ese a nnọọ ọrụ n'aka na yi ndụ ọkachamara ruo ruo mgbe a.
[00:06:01] Alexandra Steed: Ee. Ọfọn, echere m na enwere m obi ụtọ na enwere m ezigbo otu ndị mụ na ha na-arụkọ ọrụ na Urban. Ya mere enwere m mmetụta na ụlọ ọrụ ahụ nọ n'ebe ọ na-agba ọsọ nke ọma. Enwere m ụfọdụ ndị mara mma na-eduzi ọrụ ahụ, echere m, nke a bụ ohere ugbu a na m nwere ike ịrụ ọrụ na akwụkwọ, nke m ga-achọ ime ruo afọ ole na ole. Na echere m na m na-amalite n'ezie mmetụta nrụgide nke oge na-ejide m na echiche ndị m chere na ọ dị mkpa ka a gbasaa n'ụwa ngwa ngwa na ngwa ngwa, n'ihi na akwụkwọ ahụ bụ oku ime ihe, n'ezie. Ma echere m na ọ bụrụ na emeghị m ya ugbu a, m ga-atụfu ohere ahụ.
Ya mere enwere m mmetụta ngwa ngwa gburugburu nke ahụ, ma ekpebiri m, ọ dị mma, nke ọma, m ga-ewere afọ a, nke, ị maara, ọ bụ ihe dị ka otu afọ, na m jiri ike dị ukwuu na akwụkwọ ahụ na akwụkwọ ahụ. otu oge na-arụ ọrụ na omume, ma ọ bụ a ọrụ n'aka afọ.
[00:07:02] Jackie De Burca: Ee, enwere m ike ịghọta nke ahụ. Ugbu a, ka anyị gaa. N'ihi na ehichapụrụ m echiche nke itinye aha na mmalite nke akwụkwọ gị na ebumnuche, n'ihi na aha ahụ pụrụ iche. Kedu aha akwụkwọ gị na kedu ihe gbasara ya? Alexandra?
[00:07:17] Alexandra Steed: Right. Ọfọn, a na-akpọ ya eserese na odida obodo, atụmatụ odida obodo iji megharịa ọdịnihu anyị.
And so the phrase portrait to landscape became a defining phrase for me, and it helped me sort of hinge everything in the book on that perspective. So really, portrait to landscape, for me, means two things. One is a shift in our perspective from looking at things, kind of. You know, if you understand a portrait orientation, it’s vertical and really focusing on ourselves and then flipping to a landscape orientation that’s much broader. And it’s a wide angle landscape lens where you include the living world around you, your environment, and your context. So that’s one way that I envision that phrase. But also, to me, it means flipping from just looking at ourselves. So a very kind of inward focused, more selfish gaze outwards to the fuller community. And not just the community of people around us, but the full community of life that is so often ignored by all of our economic structures, our financial structures, our political structures. That full community of life is often just ignored and seen as something to support us rather than support us financially or in terms of what we can extract and take from it, rather than thinking about how we are so interconnected. So that’s really what I wanted to convey in that phrase, portrait to landscape, as a shift in our perspective and in our worldview.
[00:09:16] Jackie De Burca: Ọ dị mma, ugbu a, echere m na aha ahụ doro anya na ọ na-egbukepụ egbukepụ, na akwụkwọ ahụ mara mma nke ukwuu. Mana maka ndị na-agụbeghị ya na nkọwa ngwa ngwa, kedu ihe ọ bụ maka ọkwa mbuli?
[00:09:34] Alexandra Steed: Ọ bụ, nke ọma, dị ka aha na-ekwu, ọ bụ atụmatụ odida obodo iji megharịa ọdịnihu anyị. Ya mere, abụ m onye na-ese ụkpụrụ ala. Ihe m maara ka esi ede bụ atụmatụ ala. Amaghị m otú e si ede akwụkwọ.
Ya mere, ihe m mere bụ na m debere akwụkwọ ahụ dị ka atụmatụ odida obodo. Enyere m ọhụụ maka otu anyị nwere ike isi mepụta ụrọ ọhụrụ. M wee gaa kọwaa ntọala anyị na ọnọdụ anyị ugbu a.
M lere anya ka anyị siri bịa na ọnọdụ a dị ugbu a. Mgbe ahụ akwụkwọ ahụ gara n'ihu ịkọwa otú anyị nwere ike isi gbanwee ọnọdụ ahụ ugbu a ka ọ bụrụ ihe mara mma nke ukwuu ma dị mma na nke jikọtara ọnụ.
M na-eme nke ahụ site n'ịkọwapụta ụkpụrụ ụkpụrụ nke m ga-emekarị na atụmatụ odida obodo wee si ebe ahụ gaa na omume ise dị mkpa nke anyị n'otu n'otu, dị ka obodo, dị ka mba dị iche iche, dị ka mmadụ zuru ụwa ọnụ nke anyị nwere ike iwere mgbe ahụ iji duru anyị gaa n'ihu. ọdịnihu dị mma ma nwee olile anya na ọdịnihu.
[00:10:51] Jackie De Burca: Dị egwu. Ugbu a, ònye ka ị na-aghọta Alexandra dị ka ndị na-ege ntị lekwasịrị anya akwụkwọ gị?
[00:10:57] Alexandra Steed: Ọfọn, Achọghị m ide ya naanị maka ndị na-emepụta ihe mgbe niile dị ka onye na-ese ụkpụrụ odida obodo, a na m agwa ndị na-ese ụkpụrụ odida obodo ndị ọzọ na nnọkọ anyị, na mmemme onyinye, na, ị mara, webinars, ụdị ihe ahụ. . Na anyị niile ụdị na-aghọta nnọọ yiri ihe, ma eleghị anya, ụfọdụ nwere, ị maara, iche iche nke echiche. Mana n'ezie, ị mara na m na-agwa ndị gbanwere agbanwe okwu mgbe m na-eme nke ahụ. Na ihe m chọrọ n'ezie ime bụ ịkọwara ndị ọzọ ụwa ihe mere ọdịdị ala ji dị mkpa. Ma ugbu a, ahụghị m na odida obodo na-enweta nlebara anya ọ bụla na ndị nta akụkọ.
N'ezie, ọ naghị enwe nnukwu nlebara anya n'ihe gbasara ụwa mmepe. Na ihe m chọrọ ka ndị mmadụ ghọta bụ ihe mere ha kwesịrị iji na-eche banyere na otú. Kedu ka ọ dị mkpa n'ihe gbasara ohere.
Ma ọ bụrụ na anyị lekwasị anya na ya, ka anyị ga-esi merie ọtụtụ nsogbu gburugburu ebe obibi anyị ugbu a. Mana ọ karịrị nke ahụ. Ọ na-agbasakwa n'ọtụtụ nsogbu mmekọrịta ọha na eze na nsogbu akụ na ụba anyị. Ya mere, achọrọ m ka ndị mmadụ hụ uru niile a magburu onwe ya nke ọdịdị ala nwere ike iweta mgbe anyị lebara ya anya na mgbe anyị lekwasịrị anya n'ezie na ya n'ihe gbasara mmepe mmadụ.
[00:12:27] Jackie De Burca: Yabụ, n'ezie, anyị na-edekọ nke a na Mee nke 2024, a ga-ewepụta ya na June nke 2024. Mana, ị mara, ndị mmadụ na-ege ntị pọdkastị ndị a ruo ọtụtụ afọ ka e mesịrị. Ya mere m na-akara ụbọchị ahụ. Ọ dịghị ihe ọzọ kpatara ya. Mana n'oge a, anyị bụ naanị ọnwa ole na ole ka iwu gachara, iwu uru olu dị iche iche ga-apụta na England. Na n'echiche, nke ahụ dị ka, ọ dị mma, nke ahụ bụ ntakịrị ihe.
Ọ bụ ntakịrị nnabata na, ọ dị mma, anyị kwesịrị ịtụle mpaghara ala mgbe anyị ga-eme mmepe ugbu a n'ihi na anyị emebiela nke ukwuu ma ugbu a anyị kwesịrị ime ihe. Ọ bụ ezie na o zughị ezu, ọ bụ ihe. Ma echere m, ị maara, echere m na nke ahụ na-ewetara anyị ụzọ. Ọ dị ka obere nghọta a. Ma ebe, dị ka m na-ekwu, Ekwetaghị m na ọ zuru ezu ma ọlị, ọ na-ewetara anyị nnukwu ajụjụ nke, dị ka, mmadụ na mmekọrịta na ọdịdị. Anyị erutela n'ọkwa ebe anyị chere na anyị ga-eme iwu ka anyị mee ihe ga-eme obere mgbanwe, ọ bụghị na ọ bụchaghị nnukwu ọdịiche. Nke ahụ na-ewelite nnukwu ajụjụ gbasara gịnị bụ mmekọrịta anyị na okike ugbu a? Kedu ihe ị chere?
[00:13:36] Alexandra Steed: Daalụ maka iwelite uru net dị iche iche n'ihi na dịka ị na-ekwu, nke ahụ bụ n'ezie nzọụkwụ dị ịrịba ama n'ihu. Anọ m na-agwa Prọfesọ David Hill okwu n'izu gara aga n'ezie, n'oge webinar dị n'ịntanetị, ọ bụkwa ya bụ onye na-akwado maka uru net dị iche iche. Ọ bụ ọkachamara n'ihe gbasara gburugburu ebe obibi, yabụ ya na gọọmentị na-arụkọ ọrụ maka ịkwado iwu a maka afọ 20. Yabụ na ọ bụghị echiche ọhụrụ. Ma n'ụzọ dị mwute, ọ gbasachaghị otú ọ si hụ ya. Ọ bụ ihe ka ukwuu ugbu a mmachi na-elekwasị anya na, na saịtị uru karịa na saịtị, nke. Agbanyeghị, nke ahụ bụ ihe ọzọ.
[00:14:18] Jackie De Burca: M na-aga ikwu otu ihe ahụ. Ikekwe mkparịta ụka ọzọ ma ọ bụrụ na ekwe ka anyị kpughee.
[00:14:23] Alexandra Steed: Yes, but yes. The point of that is that I see that this whole situation that we found ourselves in this, this awful predicament in terms of climate change, global warming, ecological collapse and so many other things, in terms of plastics pollutions and the way we’re seeing the arctic ice melts. And there’s so many environmental issues now. And I really see that all stemming from the worldview that most of western society has, which is a very dualistic construct. So it’s humans, us versus it nature, and it’s this mindset that I think it has centuries, maybe even millennia of history of seeing ourselves as dominant over and as sort of the conqueror over nature. And that nature is really just there for our use and that it doesn’t have value apart from the use that we give nature. So that is why in all of our sort of driving structures, in our systemic structures in the western world at least I’ll only speak from that perspective, is that we now find ourselves in a place where we have just been taking and extracting and exploiting and withdrawing and never investing back, you know, and now nature is just completely overwhelmed.
Enwere ezigbo oge ebe okike nwere ike ịmịnye ihe niile na-emerụ emerụ na mmetọ na ihe mkpofu na nsị niile ụmụ mmadụ na-atụba n'ime ya. Ugbu a, e nwere ọtụtụ mmadụ na mbara ala a, e nwekwara ọtụtụ ihe mkpofu na mmetọ dị ukwuu nke na ihe ndị e kere eke enweghịzi ike ịmịnye ya ọzọ. Ya mere ugbu a ọ bụ ya mere anyị ji malite ịhụ mgbanwe ndị a niile. Yabụ, ị mara, anyị arụgoro onwe anyị n'ezie n'ọgba aghara na anyị chọrọ ụzọ iche echiche dị iche ugbu a ka anyị nwee ike isi na ọgbaghara a pụta. Anyị enweghị ike ibido, anyị enweghị ike ịlaghachi azụ n'ụdị echiche anyị, ee, anyị kwesịrị iwepụta azịza teknụzụ ndị ọzọ. Ọ na-eche n'ezie ka anyị na-arụkọ ọrụ ugbu a na okike na otú anyị si ahụ onwe anyị dị ka akụkụ nke ọdịdị kama iche na ya, nke n'ezie anyị bụ. M pụtara, anyị na-adabere kpamkpam na nri anyị na-eri, ala na-eto nri ahụ, ikuku anyị na-eku ume, na mmiri dị ọhụrụ nke anyị na-aṅụ. Olileanya, ọtụtụ ndị anaghị enweta mmiri dị ọcha, mana ihe ndị a niile dị n'ime ahụ anyị. Ị maara, ha bụ ihe, ihe na-azụ anyị. Ha bụ ihe na-eme ka ọbụna ahụ anyị na-aga na-enye anyị ndụ. N'ihi ya, ọ bụ kpamkpam enweghị ikewa. Ma, ma n'ụzọ ụfọdụ anyị na-eme ka a na-ewu na, na anyị dị iche iche. Ugbu a, anyị kwesịrị imeri nke ahụ. Ma nke ahụ bụ nnukwu akụkụ ngbanwe site na eserese gaa na odida obodo bụ maka ya.
[00:17:50] Jackie De Burca: M ga-atụba ihe n'ebe ahụ nke na-abụghị akụkụ nke akwụkwọ gị n'ezie, mana ọ na-ejikọta ya n'echiche nke, ee, e nwere njikọ abụọ, doro anya, mmekọrịta nke ị tụlere. Ma mgbe ahụ, enwere 22 nke ọtụtụ ndị nọ n'afọ ole na ole, ka anyị kwuo afọ ọrụ, kwesịrị ịkpata ego. Ya mere, ha na-arapara n'ahụ ụdị dị ka, ị maara, okirikiri nke mkpa irite ego. Ma ọ bụchaghị na ha nwere ohere dị ukwuu ịmalite ịgbanwe echiche ha, ọbụlagodi na ha na-agụ akwụkwọ gị ma ọ bụ na-ewere ya, ị maara, ụdị mgbasa ozi ndị ọzọ.
Ogologo oge ole ka ndị mmadụ ga-agbanwe ma ghọta, ị maara ihe m na-ekwu?
[00:18:34] Alexandra Steed: Ee. Ọfọn, ọ bụ ezigbo ajụjụ. Ma n'ezie, ọ bụ ihe m chere na ọ bụ ngbanwe nke ga-eme n'ime. Ma ozugbo nke ahụ mere, echere m na echiche gị niile gbasara ndụ na-agbanwe. Ma mgbe ahụ, dịka ọmụmaatụ, ihe ị na-ahọrọ ime maka ọrụ gị nwere ike ịbụ ihe dị nnọọ iche na nke ị họọrọ na mbụ, otu ị ga-esi ahọrọ iri nri, ị maara, nke ahụ ga-agbanwe otú ị ga-esi nweta site na a gaa na b. Ị mara, ikekwe kama ịhọrọ ịnya ụgbọ ala na iji mmanụ ụgbọala, ị nwere ike họrọ ịga ije ma ọ bụ ịgba ígwè na-emega ahụ́ n'ezie, ị makwa na ị ga-azụkwa ahụ́ gị otú ahụ. Yabụ na enwere ihe ndị a niile. Mgbe anyị na-amalite inwe a dị iche iche echiche na anyị si ebi ndụ ga-mgbe ahụ, m na-eche, na-amalite evolushọn nakwa. Amakwa m na nke ahụ mere ná ndụ m. Ị mara, ọtụtụ akụkụ dị iche iche nke echiche ahụ mgbe ahụ na-etinye aka na ndụ m wee bụrụ akụkụ nke usoro ihe omume m kwa ụbọchị, nke m na-adịghị eche maka mgbe ahụ ọzọ. Ma echere m, nke ọma, na-alaghachi na ajụjụ nke ọrụ na ọrụ, e nwere n'ezie a nnukwu ego nke ohere maka ndị mmadụ na-etinye aka na dị iche iche akwụkwọ ndụ akwụkwọ ndụ ụdị nso. Dịka ọmụmaatụ, gọọmentị na gọọmentị gburugburu ụwa ekwuola na ka ọ na-erule 2030, anyị kwesịrị ichebe 30% nke ala na 30% nke oke osimiri, mana enwere ọtụtụ mmadụ ole na ole a zụrụ azụ na nchekwa, na njikwa ogige na nke ahụ. ụdị ihe. N'agbanyeghị nke ahụ, anyị ga-enwe oghere oghere okike echedoro ya na mmadụ ole na ole maara ka esi ejikwa ya. Yabụ na enwere nnukwu enweghị ahụmịhe na nka. Yabụ na anyị chọrọ ugbu a ka ndị mmadụ malite ịbanye n'ubi ndị ahụ n'oge gara aga nwere obere ego, nwere ụdị ụzọ agụmakwụkwọ ole na ole, mana ugbu a ndị na-ebuli ya na enwere ọtụtụ ohere n'ụzọ ahụ. Nke ahụ bụ naanị otu ihe atụ nke ụdị ọrụ ndị mmadụ nwere ike nweta.
[00:20:50] Jackie De Burca: Ee, m na-ekwu, ọ bụ nnukwu azịza. Ihe ị na-ekwu na mbụ banyere, ị maara, ozugbo ịmalite ime mgbanwe, ị maara, otu ma ọ bụ abụọ n'ime obere mgbanwe ma ọ bụ nri ma ọ bụ ịga ije karịa ụgbọ ala ma ọ bụ ịgba ígwè, ọ dịkwa ka mgbatị ahụ ma ọ bụ nri. ọchịchị, ozugbo ị na-amalite, ị maara, na-esi n'elu ọchịchị bit na ọ dị nnọọ na-aghọ akụkụ nke ndụ gị. Yabụ na nke ahụ bụ isi ihe dị mma. Ugbu a, eleghị anya, anyị kwesịrị inwe mkparịta ụka na 2030, ma ọ bụrụ na ọ bụghị mbụ, nke pụtara ịhụ ebe anyị niile nọ na 2030. Ma nke ahụ bụ nanị ịtụfu ya n'ihi na ọ bụ nanị afọ isii. N'ụzọ doro anya, anyị na-aga azụ n'akwụkwọ ahụ. O doro anya. Ka anyị kwuo maka odida obodo dị ka kwaaji dị ndụ.
[00:21:31] Alexandra Steed: Right? Ọ dị mma, okwu ahụ na-amasịkwa m, n'ihi na, ọ dị mma, maka m, ọ dabara nke ọma dị ka onye a zụrụ azụ dị ka onye na-ese ihe mbụ. Ya mere, m ghọtara usoro nke arthem na usoro eserese. Na ihe kacha amasị m gbasara odida obodo bụ ikike ya na àgwà ya nke mgbanwe mgbe niile.
Ya mere, ọ bụ ezie na ọ bụ isi na siri ike, ọ bụkwa ihe na-agbanwe mgbe niile ma na-eme mgbanwe na mmetụta dị iche iche nke natara. Na anyị nwere ohere mgbe ahụ na-arụ ọrụ na odida obodo dị ka ụlọ akwụkwọ ndụ ma na-enyere aka ịkpụ ya n'ụzọ dị mma na nke ga-eweta mweghachi kama ịda. Ị mara, n'oge a, ị maara, a na-agbanwe ọdịdị ala mgbe niile.
Ma n'oge a, ma ọ bụ ụdị ihe mberede ma ọ bụ kpachapụrụ anya, ọtụtụ ntinye na ọtụtụ mmetụta anyị na-enwe na ọdịdị ala na-agbanwe ya n'ụzọ dị maka, ị maara, nke ahụ adịghị mma, ụdị ihe kpatara ya. Mbelata nke gburugburu ebe obibi ma ọ bụ, ị maara, ụdị mmeko nwoke n'okirikiri ala. Ma anyị nwere ohere a iji gbanwee nke ahụ kpamkpam na ịkpụ ya na ịmepụta, dịka i kwuru, akwa akwa ndụ, ihe mara mma nke ukwuu ma na-azụ ma na-eto eto na anyị nwere ike inyere ndị na-elekọta ụlọ aka. Ya mere, anyị nwere ohere a ịbụ ndị nlekọta nke ụwa kama ụdị nke nnukwu ndị na-eme ya.
[00:23:26] Jackie De Burca: Ya mere, otu n'ime okwu ndị ị na-eji n'akwụkwọ, Albert Einstein, mmadụ, bụ akụkụ nke ihe dum nke anyị na-akpọ eluigwe na ala. Nke ahụ bụ naanị ntakịrị akụkụ nke nkwuputa nke ị gbakwunyere na-alaghachi n'ihe anyị na-ekwu, n'ezie, na anyị na-eche na anyị dị iche na okike.
Kedu otu ị si hụ na anyị nwere ike imeri nke ahụ? M pụtara, na okwu nke, ị na-ekwula banyere, dị ka ije na ịgba ígwè, e nwere ndị ọzọ ndụmọdụ ị na ị ga-enwe maka ndị na-ekiri na ndị na-ege ntị otú ha nwere ike na mberede ma ọ bụ ngwa ngwa ịbịaru nso na okike?
[00:24:04] Alexandra Steed: Ọfọn, nke ahụ bụ nnukwu ajụjụ.
Ama m na ọ na-esiri ọtụtụ n'ime anyị ike. Ị mara, ibi na London, anaghị m enwekarị ubi, ikekwe ọ bụghị ọbụna patio ma ọ bụ oche. Amakwa m na e nwere ọtụtụ, ọtụtụ ndị mmadụ gburugburu ụwa bụ ndị kewapụrụ n'ala ahụ, kewapụrụ na ala, na ọ nwere ike bụrụ n'ezie, siri ike. Ya mere, m pụtara, a nọ m ugbu a na Vancouver. Echere m na ugbu a ị nwere ike ịhụ akwụkwọ ndị a niile n'azụ m. N'obodo dịka Vancouver, ọ na-adị mfe ijikọ na okike n'ihi na ị na-apụ apụ na nkeji ole na ole, enwere ike ịnwe okporo ụzọ iyi ị ga-aga. Na e nwere ohere dị nnọọ ụdị banye mara mma nke oké ọhịa gburugburu gị ma ọ bụ na-ele anya na oké osimiri na-enwe ntọhapụ nke ahụ. Ma n'ime obodo, m ga-atụ aro ka ịchọta oge ndị ahụ. Achọpụtara m nke ahụ n'ihi na m na-aga ọtụtụ ebe mgbe m nọ na London, nke ahụ na-enye m ohere ijikọ ala ahụ karịa. Ya mere, m ga-ahọrọ ụzọ, dịka ọmụmaatụ, na-agafe n'ámá, na-agafe n'okporo ámá ndị na-acha akwụkwọ ndụ akwụkwọ ndụ, ndị nwere ike ịga n'akụkụ ọwa mmiri ma ọ bụ n'akụkụ osimiri. Ana m eme nhọrọ ndị a gbasara otu anyị si eme njem, n'ezie, bụ ụzọ magburu onwe ya isi jikọọ na okike. Ụzọ ọzọ, m ga-ekwu bụ ọbụna ma ọ bụrụ na ị na-adịghị a ubi, dị nnọọ na-etinye a osisi ole na ole na gị windowsill na-ekiri ka ha na-eto eto na ụdị na-elekọta ha, na n'onwe ya na-enyere gị aka n'ezie ụdị jikọọ azụ na ọdịdị. Ọtụtụ mgbe, m ga-enwe osisi na-anọdụ ala na tebụl m, na ụbọchị dum, ọ na-amasị m inwe orchid na tebụl m, dịka ọmụmaatụ. N'ihi ya, m ga-dị nnọọ ụdị anya n'ime ifuru, n'ime ifuru onwe ya mgbe ọ na-ama ifuru, na-ahụ na ndị oge na m nwere nnọọ jikọọ azụ dị nnọọ ọbụna na otu ifuru, n'ezie nyeere m aka n'ala na ụdị-eweta. m laghachi ihe dị mkpa na.
Na ịhụ njikọ m na ụdị ndụ ndị ọzọ na ndụ ndị ọzọ. Yabụ, ị mara, ọ nwere ike ịbụ oge ndị ahụ ka anyị were lekwasị anya na ụdị ndụ ndị ọzọ. Ya mere, ị mara, ọ bụrụ na ị nwere nkịta, nke ahụ nwere ike ịbụ ụzọ magburu onwe ya isi jikọọ. Ma ọ bụ pusi. Ụmụ anụmanụ na-enyere aka n'ezie ka anyị jikọọ azụ na onwe anyị na jikọọ na ihe ndị ọzọ. Ya mere, m ga-asị, ọ bụrụ na ị nwere ike ịgba ubi, nke ahụ bụ ihe magburu onwe ya ime. Ịbanye aka gị n'ime ala na ịhụ ọgaranya dị n'ebe ahụ na ndụ dị n'ime ala n'onwe ya pụkwara ịbụ ihe magburu onwe ya.
Yabụ na enwere ọtụtụ obere ihe anyị nwere ike ime. Ma echere m na ọ bụrụ na ị malite obere, ma nwee olileanya, ka oge na-aga, nwere ike wulite njikọ ahụ.
[00:26:56] Jackie De Burca: Ee, e nwere ụfọdụ ezigbo ndụmọdụ, na nke ahụ bụ ihe niile na-akụda ya na ụfọdụ obere, obere mmalite ndị achievable n'agbanyeghị ebe ị na-ebi. Yabụ na nke ahụ bụ, ị maara, nke ahụ doro anya na ọ bara ezigbo uru. Ị na-eji ntụnyere n'akwụkwọ gị gbasara usoro ihe mmadụ na-ahụ anya, nke m hụrụ na-adọrọ mmasị. Ị nwere ike ịkọwa nke a?
[00:27:17] Alexandra Steed: Ee, nke ọma, nri. Echefuru m ugbu a ka m si eji ntụnyere ahụ, mana, ị maara, enwere m ọtụtụ akwụkwọ na ebe nchekwa akwụkwọ m, ụfọdụ ndị m na-adịghị agụkarị na ndị ọzọ. Ya mere, oge ọ bụla n'otu oge, m ga-ewepụ ihe na ụlọ akwụkwọ ahụ ma m ga-eche, oh, wow, ị maara, akwụkwọ a abụghị ihe ọ bụla gbasara, dị ka, ubi m na-eme mgbalị, ma mgbe ụfọdụ ị dị nnọọ. jide ndị a isi akụ, ọ bụghị gị? Ya mere, e nwere akwụkwọ m nwere na shelf m. Echere m na ọ bụ nnukwu atụmatụ site n'aka Stephen Hawking, na n'ime ya, ọ na-ekwu maka echiche anyị na-ahụ anya yana otu ha siri dị gbasara ndị na-ekiri anyị, dịka ha na-ekwu maka ihe anyị na-ekiri. The eke phenomena gburugburu anyị na ụwa, ọbụna omume nke ịhụ. Ya mere, anyị nwere ihe ndị a niile na-ahụ anya na-atụ anyị ụjọ. Ọbụghị naanị ihe a na-ahụ anya, mana ụdị ihe mmetụta uche niile na-amanye anyị oge ọ bụla. Ma anyị n'ụzọ ụfọdụ mgbe ahụ ga iyo iyo site anyị anya. Ma enwere ebe n'ezie, echere m na ọ bụ ebe akwara anya na-ejikọta retina. Ya mere, mgbe anyị hụrụ ụwa gbara anyị gburugburu, enwere nnukwu oghere n'ebe ahụ ebe akwara anya na-ezute retina. Ya mere, uche anyị ga-arụ ọrụ iji mejupụta oghere ndị ahụ niile. Ma ọ na-eme ya site n'inwe ụfọdụ ụdị adaba na mfe constructs nke mere na ọ nwere ike uzo aga site reams nke data na a nnọọ ogologo usoro ka anyị na-enwe ike ịghọta ụwa gbara anyị gburugburu. Yabụ, na agbanyeghị, nke a butere anyị. Nke a bụ nanị otu ihe atụ nke otú uche anyị na-esi emezi emejupụta oghere ndị ahụ ma na-agbalị ime ka ihe dị mgbagwoju anya dị mfe. Ma echere m na nke a bụ otu n'ime ihe kpatara nrụnye mmadụ abụọ a na ọdịdị dịịrị anyị mfe ịghọta, n'ihi na ọ na-eme ihe dị mgbagwoju anya. Ọdịdị dị nnọọ mgbagwoju anya. Ọ bụ kpam kpam. Ọfọn, ọ bụghị kpamkpam, ma ọ bụ ihe a na-apụghị ịmata.
Anyị amaghị ya. Anyị agaghị aghọta ihe niile gbasara okike. Ya mere, anyị na-etinye ihe nrụpụta ndị a na-enyere anyị aka ịghọta na nyochaa ozi a. Echere m na nke ahụ bụ otu n'ime ihe mere anyị ji nọrọ n'ọnọdụ a. Ya mere ugbu a, anyị ga-agbakwunye mgbagwoju anya iji ghọta na, ee, anyị bụ ndị mmadụ n'otu n'otu, mana anyị bụkwa akụkụ nke ihe dum. Ya mere, anyị kwesịrị inwe nghọta dị mgbagwoju anya nke ọnọdụ anyị n'ụwa.
[00:30:07] Jackie De Burca: Dị egwu. Ugbu a, ịlaghachi na mmalite nke akwụkwọ gị, ị na-ekwu maka ịgbasa okirikiri ọmịiko anyị. Gịnị na-eme ma anyị mee nke a?
[00:30:19] Alexandra Steed: Ọ dị mma, nke ahụ bụ ahịrị m nwetara site na nkwubi okwu Einstein nke ị kpọtụrụ aha na mbụ, na ahụrụ m ya n'anya nke ukwuu. Mgbe m gụrụ nhota ahụ sitere na Einstein, echere m, Chaị, ị maara, ihe niile ọ na-ekwu ebe a, ọ na-ekwu maka otu esi eme ya.
Olee otú ụmụ mmadụ nwere ngwa anya delusion nke nsụhọ, na anyị dị iche iche si ọdịdị, na na anyị ọrụ mgbe ahụ ga-abụ ịnabata ihe nile nke ọdịdị na mma ya. Ma, ị maara, ọ na-ekwu ya. Ọ na-ekwu karịa nke ahụ. Ma achọpụtara m na okwu ahụ kpuchiri ihe niile m na-eche n'echiche n'ihe gbasara ọnọdụ anyị ugbu a, ihe ịma aka anyị ugbu a, na otú anyị nwere ike isi merie ha site n'ịnabata ọdịdị. Ya mere enwere ọtụtụ ndị ọzọ na-ekwu maka echiche ndị yiri ya, Aldo Leopold bụ otu n'ime ha. Ebe ọ bụla I. Ọ nọ.
Ọfọn, ọ bụ otu n'ime ndị nchekwa nchekwa ama ama, o si America na ụdị onye bi na narị narị 19. O wee wepụta echiche a nke ecocentrism. N'ihi ya, nke ahụ na-akpụ akpụ si nnọọ ilekwasị anya na ndị mmadụ, nke ga-anthropocentrism, na-ele anya kama na a ọtụtụ ihe ndị ọzọ holistic na integrated echiche nke ụwa, nke bụ ecocentrism. Ya mere, na-ekwusi ike mkpa mmadụ dị naanị na imesi mkpa ihe niile dị ndụ na ihe niile dị ndụ. Ya mere, ala, mmiri, ikuku, osisi, anụmanụ, ihe ndị a niile dị mkpa na ndụ. Ya mere, nke ahụ bụ n'ezie mgbe m na-eche banyere ịnakwere ihe nile nke okike, ọ na-abụkarị maka mgbanwe nke echiche ahụ ọzọ, mgbanwe mgbanwe ahụ nke na-ahụ anyị dị ka otu akụkụ nke biosphere, nke a buru ibu, njikọ weebụ nke ndụ.
Ozugbo anyị mechara nke ahụ, anyị nwere ike ịnakwere ya ngwa ngwa, wee nabata ya ọ bụghị naanị n'uche anyị, kama site na omume anyị. Ma echere m na ọ ga-abụrịrị na ọ ga-amalite n'uche na mbụ wee pụta ìhè n'anụ ahụ site na omume anyị.
[00:32:53] Jackie De Burca: Dị egwu. Ugbu a, n'ikpeazụ, maka mmemme mmeghe a, n'ihi na anyị nwere akụkụ ole na ole na-abịa na akwụkwọ gị, n'ihi na o kwesịrị ya, gịnị bụ ụkpụrụ omume ala?
[00:33:04] Alexandra Steed: Ah, nri. Ọ dị mma, ajụjụ mara mma, n'ihi na nke ahụ bụ ihe Aldo Leopold wepụtara. Ya mere, ọ rụrụ ọrụ n'ime afọ ndị a niile dị ka onye na-ahụ maka nchekwa, ọ chọpụtakwara site n'ọrụ ya niile na ọ na-agbanwe nghọta na echiche ndị mmadụ n'ezie nke ga-enwe mmetụta na mgbanwe kachasị mkpa.
Ya mere, o dere ụkpụrụ omume ala a nke na-ekwu ihe dị n'usoro nke, ị maara, anyị nwere ụkpụrụ omume gburugburu ka ndị mmadụ n'otu n'otu na-emekọrịta ihe. Anyị nwere ụkpụrụ omume gburugburu ka ndị mmadụ n'otu n'otu si emetụta obodo nke ndị gbara ha gburugburu. Mana ihe anyị na-enweghị bụ ụkpụrụ gbasara etu anyị si eme, dịka ndị mmadụ na-emekọrịta ihe na okike na ala. Ya mere nke ahụ na-efu. Ya mere, anyị nwere ihe ndị dị ka iwu iri ahụ, iwu ọla edo, nke na-enyere aka iduzi anyị ma nye anyị ụkpụrụ omume n'ihe gbasara otú anyị si akpa àgwà n'ụwa, ma anyị enweghị ihe ọ bụla na-enyere anyị aka ịchịkwa àgwà anyị n'ebe ala. Ya mere ụkpụrụ omume ala ya nke o tinyere n'akwụkwọ o dere nke a na-akpọ Asand County Almanac, ọ na-akọwapụta ka anyị ga-esi nabata ụkpụrụ ala a iji nyere aka na-eduzi usoro ọhụrụ na ịghọta na anyị niile bụ ndị bi na mbara ala a. Ọ bụghị naanị mmadụ bi. Anyị niile bụ ndị bi, ndị niile bi na mbara ala a, anyị ga-echekwa ma chịkwaa omume nke anyị iji chebe ihe ndị ọzọ dị n'okike. Ya mere echere m na nke ahụ bụ ihe dị mkpa n'ezie banyere ịmụta ịchịkwa otú anyị si akpa àgwà na otú anyị si emekọrịta ihe na otú anyị si ebi n'ụwa a. Ma ruo mgbe anyị ga-enwe ike ime otú ahụ, anyị ga-anọgide na-emebi ụdị ndụ ndị ọzọ.
[00:35:17] Jackie De Burca: Nke ahụ bụ ihe na-akụda mmụọ mana ọ bụ ezie na anyị nwere ike imecha ihe omume a. O doro anya na ị na-atụ anya ihe omume ga-eme n'ọdịnihu ebe ị maara, ị na-aga na-ewepụta ọtụtụ ihe ndị ọzọ dị mkpa maka otu anyị nwere ike isi wepụ onwe anyị na ọgbaghara.
Ma na-akpali nnọọ mmasị, ị maara, mgbe ndị mmadụ na-ele anya, dị ka anyị ga-atụle na a ga-eme n'ọdịnihu omume, mgbe ndị mmadụ n'ezie na-ele anya na akụkọ ihe mere eme nke agbụrụ mmadụ, ọ bụ n'ezie nnọọ obere n'echiche na dum na nke ahụ bụ ihe anyị ga-abụ. na-ekwu maka ya na ihe omume ọzọ. Alexandra, ọ bụụrụ oke obi ụtọ inwe gị.
[00:35:51] Alexandra Steed: Oh, daalụ nke ukwuu, Jackie. ọ bụ ihe anụrị.
[00:35:54] Ọkà okwu A: Nke a bụ olu na-arụpụta ihe. Voice Constructive Podcast maka ndị na-ewu ụlọ nwere akụkọ, nlele na ajụjụ ọnụ ndị ọkachamara.









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