S3, E20: Chimiro cheMaguta Edu naDr. Nadina Galle, Chikamu chekutanga
- Jackie De Burca
- November 19, 2024
Hunhu hweMaguta Edu naDr. Nadina Galle, Chikamu chekutanga
“Urban muzvarirwo haisi yekumashure chete; inzira yekurarama nayo zuva nezuva biodiversity, munhu utano, uye kugadzikana kwemamiriro ekunze. " – Host, Jackie De Burca
TEERERA PASI
Tikugashirei kuchikamu chechitatu muchirongwa chedu chakakosha chine Nadina Galle, ecological injiniya, 2024 National Geographic Explorer, uye munyori of Hunhu Hwedu Cities: Kushandisa Simba Renyika Yakasikwa Kuti Urarame Panyika Inochinja.
Host Jackie De Burca anonyura mumaturusi, matekinoroji, uye hunyanzvi hwekugadziridza hunhu hwemumaguta manejimendi, akafuridzirwa nebhuku raNadina.
Muchikamu chino, Nadina anobata:
- Upofu hweChirimwa: Chii, nei chiri chimiro chenzanga, uye kuti chinokanganisa sei kubatana kwedu kune zvakasikwa.
- Zvipembenene Zvipenyu zvakasiyana-siyana Monitoring: Ziva iyo inotyisa Diopsis kamera, yakagadzirirwa kuyera huwandu hwezvipembenene zvinobhururuka uye kuongorora kupindira kwekusiyana kwezvipenyu.
- Urban Evolution: Mienzaniso inoshamisa ye howa kuchinjira ku guta upenyu, kubva kuhozhwa dzine mavara akareruka kusvika kumakunguru akakwirira-akakwirira uye tsindi dzinoziva muguta.
- Citizen Sayenzi paChikero: Dzidza nezve mafambiro epasi rose seCity Nature Challenge uye maapplication ekutanga seEarthSnap neMerlin, ayo anopa simba vanhu vemazuva ese kuti vabatane uye kunyora. zvipenyu zvemumaguta.
"Zvipembenene zvingasava zvinofadza, asi ndiwo machira emucheka wehupenyu. " - Dr. Nadina Galle
Nadina anogoverawo zvinonakidza nyaya zvidzidzo zvinoratidzira kuti tekinoroji uye kubatanidzwa kwevagari kuri kushandura sei mabatiro atinoita nemadhorobha. ecosystems.
Misoro Yekukosha:
- Shoko rokuti “upofu hwezvirimwa” uye kupararira kwahwo kunoshamisa—kunyange pakati pevanofarira zvinhu zvakasikwa.
- Sei maguta, zvipenyu zvakasiyana-siyana, uye kuguta inopindirana munzira dzinopesvedzera zvese zvakasikwa uye hutano hwevanhu.
- Nyaya yemudzidzi wepachikoro chesekondari akawanazve mhuka yaifungidzirwa kuti yakatsakatika panguva yeCity Nature Challenge.
- Zvishandiso zvakaita seBirdcast uye EarthSnap zvinounza zvisikwa kumunwe wedu uye kurwa maruva nemhuka upofu.
"Tiye tinonzwisisa zvakanyanya flora nemhuka dzakatipoteredza, patinonyanya kuzvitarisira—uye ndiro danho rokutanga pakuzvidzivirira.” – Dr. Nadina Galle
Chii Chinotevera:
Gara wakagadzirira chikamu chekupedzisira chenhevedzano, apo Jackie naNadina vanoongorora hukama pakati pehutano hwevanhu uye madosi ezuva nezuva ezvisikwa. Dzidza kuti nzvimbo dzemudhorobha dzinogona sei kutsigira hutano uye hupenyu hwakanaka kuburikidza nekufungisisa kubatanidzwa kwezvinhu zvakasikwa.
Zvishandiso Zvakataurwa:
- Hunhu Hwedu naNadina Galle
- City Nature Challenge (Dzidza zvimwe)
- EarthSnap uye Merlin Apps
- Menno Schilthuizen's Darwin Anouya kudhorobha
Teerera Pazasi:
Ongorora Zvimwe:
kushanya Manzwi Anovaka zvezvinyorwa, njere, uye zvigadziriso pa kurarama kwakasimba uye urban utsanzi.
nezve dr. nadina galle
Nadina Galle, Ph.D. iDutch-Canadian ecological engineer, tekinoroji, uye podcaster. Basa rake rakaratidzwa mumadocumentary akagadzirwa na BBC Pasi uye mune akawanda akadhindwa zvinyorwa, kusanganisira Newsweek, ELLE, uye National Geographic.
Iye akagamuchira mibairo yakati wandei yedzidzo uye yezvemabhizimusi, kusanganisira yeFulbright scholarship yekuyanana kuMIT's Senseable City Lab, akasarudzwa neForbes '30 pasi pemakore makumi matatu runyorwa, uye nguva pfupi yadarika akatumidza National Geographic Explorer nebasa rake rekukura kwemaguta muLatin America. vari kupinda mu Internet Yezvakasikwa. Anogovera nguva yake pakati peAmsterdam neToronto.
Upenyu Hwekutanga
Akazvarwa mu Netharenzi ndokusimudzwa mukati Kanadha, Dr. Nadina Galle akatanga rudo rwekunze uye kuzvipira kwakadzika kuchengetedza zvisikwa kubva paudiki.
Nheyo dzeKukurudzira & Zvishuvo
Achifemerwa nezvinyorwa zvevanotevera madhorobha Jane Jacobs naJames Howard Kunstler mumakore ake ehudiki, akatanga kubvunza kusaenzana pakati pechisikigo uye kupararira kwemadhorobha kwaakapupurira mudhorobha reCanada.
Sainjiniya wezvezvakatipoteredza anosundwa nechido chezve ecology uye kufarira tekinoroji, Dr. Galle anotsvagurudza, anovandudza, uye anounza matekinoroji ari kusimukira kumusika, aine chinangwa chekuvaka nharaunda dziri nani kune vese vanhu uye zvisikwa-chiratidzo chaanodaidza kuti "Internet Yezvakasikwa. ” (IoN).
IoN yakabva yashanduka kuita sangano repasi rose, richibatanidza varapi vakashinga vari kusimudzira matekinoroji ekugadzira nharaunda dzakapfuma mune zvakasikwa. Dr. Galle's Internet yeNature Podcast, ine zvinopfuura 25,000 zvekudhawunirodha, inosimbisa basa rinoshamisa revamuzvinabhizinesi ava nevagadziri, rinokurudzira vateereri pasi rese.

Neanopfuura makore gumi eruzivo muzvidzidzo mumakondinendi mana, Dr. Nadina Galle ane hwaro hwakasimba mukutsvaga kwesainzi. Asi, iko kusanganiswa kwake kwehunyanzvi hwedzidzo uye makore achishanda pa-uye kuvaka-kutanga-tech inomusiyanisa. Iye zvino anounza zvinyorwa zvakakosha, anogadzirisa zviitiko zvepasirese, anoparadzira ruzivo, uye anotangisa zvigadzirwa pamharadzano yezvisikwa, vanhu, uye tekinoroji.
Inoratidzwa MuPamusoro Media
Basa raDr. Galle rakaratidzwa muzvinyorwa neBBC Earth uye arte.tv, pazvirongwa zvakawanda zveBritish, Irish, neDutch radio, uye mune zvakawanda zvakadhindwa zvinyorwa, kusanganisira. Newsweek, iT, uye National Geographic, iyo yaimhanya nemapeji mashanu paP.D. research.
Akagamuchira rukudzo rwakati wandei rwedzidzo uye rwezvemabhizimusi, kusanganisira kudzidza kweFulbright kwekuyanana kwake kuMIT Senseable City Lab, kwaanoenderera mberi akabata mubatanidzwa wekutsvagisa. Dr. Galle yakave yakanyorwawo paSustainable Top 100 yevaduku veDutch vemabhizimisi kwemakore matatu akatevedzana (yakanyanya kubvumirwa) uye yakapiwa mubayiro wepamusoro weEuropean Space Agency, "Space Oscar," nokuda kwebasa rake pamusoro pekugadzirisa korona yemuti wemaguta kurwisa kuparadzwa kwemasango. Forbes uye Elsevier vese vakamuziva pamazita avo ekuti "30 under 30".
Musoro MuSainzi, Mwoyo Mukukurukurirana
Vatengi, vaanoshanda navo, uye shamwari vanoonga kugona kwaDr. Galle kutora mhedzisiro - hunhu hwaanoratidza kutendeseka kwake, tsitsi, uye hunyanzvi. Aya maitiro, anotenda, akakosha pakutungamira zvikwata kuti zviwane basa rakagovaniswa.
Ane shungu pamusoro penzira yaari pairi-kutsvaga nekuvaka ruzivo rwe "kutora zvisikwa online" -Dr. Galle anodada nekuve nemusoro wake musainzi uye nemoyo wake mukutaurirana. Akazvipira kushandura zvakawanikwa zvedzidzo uye tekinoroji kuita ruzivo rweruzhinji rwevanhu munhau dzakasiyana siyana.
National Geographic Explorer
Muna 2024, Dr. Galle akatumidzwa zita reNational Geographic Explorer, kwaari kuongorora kuti maguta muLatin America ari sei. kubatanidza kupinda muInternet of Nature.
Debut Book
Bhuku rake rekutanga, Chimiro cheMaguta Edu: Kubatanidza Simba Renyika Yechisikigo Kupona Kuchinja Kunoshanduka, yakabudiswa naHarperCollins musi waChikumi 18, 2024, uye iripo kutenga munzvimbo idzi maererano nekwauri munyika.
Digital yakagadzirwa chinyorwa (chinogona kusanganisira zvimwe zvikanganiso)
Mhoro kwamuri. Uye ndicho chikamu chechitatu mune ino nhevedzano naNadine Galle. Ini ndiri Jackie De Burca. For Manzwi Anovaka. Nadina achaita sumo inokurumidza, asi sumo yakakodzera pamusoro paNadina nebasa rake kusvika parizvino inogona kuwanikwa pachikamu chekutanga cheiyi nhevedzano apo iwe unowana zvakawanda zvinonakidza zvinhu zvaakaita kusvika parizvino. Uye achange achiita zvinhu zvakawanda muupenyu hwake hwose nechimiro chezvose. Iye zvino tave kuvharidzira bhuku rake uye tinoripatsanura mumhando yezvikamu zvitatu zvakasiyana zveruzivo rwauchawana mubhuku rake. Uye chikamu ichi chiri pamusoro pematurusi uye matekiniki ezviri nani emudhorobha manejimendi manejimendi. Nadina, wagamuchirwa zvakare, ndinokutendai zvikuru nekuve pano.
[00:01:02] Nadina Galle: Zvakanaka, ndinokutendai zvikuru, Jackie. Zvakanaka kuva pano zvakare. Uye mhoroi mose. Ndiri Nadina Galle. Ndiri Dutch Canadian ecological Injiniya. Ini ndiri 2024 National Geographic Explorer uye nguva pfupi yadarika munyori weChimiro cheKubata Kwedu Simba reNyika Yechisikigo Kupona Kuchinja Kunoshanduka. Uye zvinofadza kudzoka.
[00:01:26] Jackie De Burca: Brilliant, Nadina. Saka, sezvandambotaura munhanganyaya, enda kuchikamu chekutanga unzwe kana usati watodaro. Zvino, chimwe chezvinhu zvakandishamisa zvikuru, Nadina, kwaiva kuziva kuti waimbotambura nezvinonzi upofu hwezvirimwa. Chokutanga pane zvose, ngatiitei. Zvichida tinoda kuti uongorore kuti zvinorevei chaizvo. Asi ungataurawo here nezvekuti wakaziva sei kuti panguva iyoyo waitambura neupofu hwezvirimwa?
[00:01:52] Nadina Galle: Hongu.
Ndinofunga kuti imhando inosetsa nechirimwa upofu, izwi iri rave riripo kwechinguva ikozvino, asi ndakaona munguva pfupi yapfuura pasocial network pane iyi maitiro ikozvino kuve nemhando dzese dzeupofu, ingave chinhu chinonzi blush blindness kana fake tan upofu, iyi pfungwa yekuti uri kuita chimwe chinhu uye hautomboziva kuti uri kuzviita. Uye ini ndinofunga sevanhu vazhinji vanogara mumaguta, kunyangwe vaine hudiki hwekunze, ndakaona kuti, munoziva, ndichifamba nepaki yangu yemudhorobha, izvo, uye ndinonyara kutaura izvi, kuita zvandinoita kwaive nenguva yakaoma chaizvo kuziva zvakawanda zvezvirimwa uye zvipembenene uye mamwe marudzi ezvipenyu andakagovana nawo maguta angu. Uye zvechokwadi ndinonyara kubvuma izvi nekuti ichi chikamu chebasa rangu, asi zvakandiita kuti ndifunge kuti ichi chinhu chandinofunga, kunyanya kana uri, kana usiri injinjiniya wezvakatipoteredza uye ecologist yemadhorobha, senge ini, ungangove, unoziva, wakatarisana neizvi zvakanyanya. Uye ndakanetseka chose pandakaziva izvi kudzidza izvo zvakaitwa zvose UK uye US vana vakawana kuti paavhareji mwana akakwanisa kuziva mazana logos uye mazita mazita, asi kunyange kukwanisa kuziva 10 munharaunda chirimwa kana miti mhando.
Uye ndinofunga kuti zvinongotaura kune yakakura kudaro nzanga maitiro. Chaizvoizvo, pane imwe tsvakiridzo inonakidza inoenderera neiyi iyo yakaona kuti mumakore makumi mashanu apfuura pave paine zvishoma uye zvishoma zvinongedzo nezvezvakasikwa mumimhanzi yedu nemabhuku kupfuura zvataive nazvo makore makumi mashanu apfuura, izvo zvandinofunga kuti chimwe chinhu chinonakidza zvakare. . Izvo zvinongotaura kune, iwe unoziva, basa rechisikigo munharaunda yedu yezuva nezuva, mune yedu, munharaunda yedu yezuva nezuva. Munoziva, tinotaura zvakawanda sei pamusoro pechisiko, tinozvinongedzera zvakadini norunako rwacho noukuru hwacho munziyo dzedu nomumabhuku edu uye munziyo dzedu? Zvakawanda sei zvinokurukurwa kuchikoro uye nevaduku vedu? Uye zvakandiita kuti ndione sekunge ichi chaive chimwe chinhu chandanga ndichinetsekana nacho, tichifunga nezvebasa rangu, munoziva, pane vanhu vazhinji vanogona kunge vakatarisana neizvi. Uye yakakosha nekuti ndinofunga inotaura izvi zvakakura maitiro apo isu tisina chaizvo zano rakanaka rebasa uye zvisikwa uye izvo zvinotamba muzuva redu rehupenyu hwezuva nezuva. Uye sezvataona kubva mukutsvagisa, ndizvo chaizvo zvezuva nezuva kusangana nemasikirwo atinoda zvakanyanya nezvehutano hwedu uye nekuchengetedza kwedu kubva kunjodzi dzine chekuita nemamiriro ekunze.
[00:04:34] Jackie De Burca: Hongu. Ndinofunga kuti chinhu chinouya mupfungwa dzangu, Nadina, kana uri kutaura nezvazvo ndechekuunza kusvika padanho rekuti tichati lettuce iyo, unoziva, unogona kushandisa musalad. Sevazhinji vevana vandaizotaurirana navo, ini handina vana vangu, asi iwe unoziva, zviri pachena kuti shamwari zhinji dzinoita uye dzaizoona kuti unowana lettuce kubva kuchitoro. Saka zvakaita sezvisikwa zvinongobviswa kubva mukuenzanisa kuti, unoziva kupi, kunogadzirwa chikafu chedu.
[00:05:00] Nadina Galle: Right, right, exactly. Ndichireva kuti kune vana vakakurira mumaguta vanofunga kuti mukaka unobva kuzvitoro zvikuru. Havana kana kuita mubatanidzwa nemombe. Saka zvinonyatso ratidza kuti tabva kure zvakadii. Uye iwe unogona kuita nharo, ndiani ane hanya? Ndiani ane hanya kuti vana havazivi nezvazvo? Nei izvozvo zvichitokosha? Uye ini ndingapokana kuti inosvika pakunyanya kuvepo, midzi yakadzika yezvinotiita vanhu, kubatana kwedu nenyika uye chikafu chatinofema neMhepo yatinofema uye zviwanikwa zvatinoshandisa, zvese zvinobva panyika nzira imwe kana imwe. Uye kana tangorasikirwa zvachose kubata izvo, zvakanaka, ini chokwadi ndinotya remangwana revanhu mupfungwa iyoyo.
[00:05:44] Jackie De Burca: Hongu, zvachose. Uye zvakare, sezvauri kutaura, Nadine, zvinouya mupfungwa dzangu kana iwe ukafunga nezve art yebako, iwe unoziva, hunyanzvi hwaunoona, prehistoric art mumapako, iyi yaive yemhuka, kazhinji, kwete yese. , asi zvizhinji zvacho ndezvemhuka. Saka, iwe unoziva, kana tikafunga nezvazvo, angangove makore mazana maviri kana zvakadaro ekusimudzira uye tozoenda kumberi kubva ipapo, kuti izvo zvakanganisa nzanga sei. Asi zvisati zvaitika, madzitateguru edu ose aibatanidzwa mune zvakasikwa zuva nezuva. Kazhinji.
[00:06:21] Nadina Galle: Hongu. Uye ndinofunga ndosaka basa remusikirwo weguta rakakosha, nekuti sesu. Isu sevanhu vekare takasangana nemazuva iwayo, zvisikwa zvaive zvakanyanya chikamu chehupenyu hwedu hwezuva nezuva. Uye ndinofunga tasvika padanho rekuti tinonzwa kuti tinogona kuwana, munoziva, zadza kapu yedu yechisikigo pakupera kwevhiki kana pazororo nerwendo kana nerwendo. Uye kutsvagurudza kwakawanda kunotiratidza kuti mabhenefiti chaiwo echisikigo anouya kubva kune iwo madosi ezuva nezuva uye kuti hazvifanirwe kunge zviri izvi, munoziva, nzvimbo dzakakura dzerenje. Don't get me wrong, izvo zvinoshamisa kana iwe uine mukana wekushanya. Asi kuwana yakawanda yeiyi mipimo yezuva nezuva inogona kubva pamuti mumwe wakasimwa uchibva kunze kwemba yako, kwaunoona mhepo ichivhuvhuta mumashizha, kwaunonzwa shiri dzichiimba, uko unoona majuru achikwira pamusoro pehunde. Kufanana newe, une izvi, izvi zvemazuva ese. Izvi ndizvo chaizvo zvinoumba huzhinji hwehupenyu hwedu.
[00:07:17] Jackie De Burca: Ehe, kwete, ndinobvumirana newe zvachose. Uye ndine rombo rakanaka, munoziva, kuti ndinogona kuwana izvozvo. Asi chokwadi, vamwe vanhu, ndizvo. Hazvisi nyore kuita. Chimwe chezvinhu zvinondirova sehasha asi chokwadi, ndinofunga ndechekuti kugara mudhorobha zvakaenzana, munoziva, zvisati zvamboitika kurasikirwa kwezvinhu zvipenyu, asiwo zvakasimba zvipenyu zvakasiyana-siyana zvinodzivirira mhepo mvura nenzvimbo uye hutano hwevanhu. Zvino, izvo zvinotitungamira kune chokwadi chekuti kwave nekudzikira kukuru kwezviri pachena, marudzi ese ehuwandu, asi kunyanya huwandu hwezvipembenene. Unogona here kutaura nesu kuburikidza neizvi, Nadine? Uye unoziva kuti zvinotikanganisa sei?
[00:07:56] Nadina Galle: Ehe, zvinonakidza nekuti isu tinogona zvakare kuona kutenderera pasirese kuti mamwe emaguta makuru epasi anotangwa uye akakura mune mamwe makuru epasirese. biodiversity hotspots. Uye ini ndinofunga izvo zvinongotaura chimwe chinhu chakafanana, zvakanaka, nei isu tichikweverwa kune zvipenyu zvakasiyana-siyana? Sei tichida kugara munzvimbo dzine High biodiversity. Uye ndinofunga isu tinoziva kuti iyo yakawanda biodiversity, iyo yakawanda buffer yatinayo kubva kwakasiyana njodzi dzinongoitika dzoga, iyo mikana yakawanda, iyo yakawanda inovava yatinofanira kushandisa kune akasiyana zviwanikwa zvekugara. Mishonga yakakura, zvekuvakisa, marudzi akasiyana ezvokudya. Iwe unoziva, isu tinoda kugara munzvimbo dzine hupenyu huzhinji uye huzere nemhando dzakasiyana dzehupenyu. Saka ndinofunga zvinonakidza kuti mukati menhoroondo yevanhu, takatokweverwa kune idzi nzvimbo dzakasiyana-siyana dzezvipenyu kuti tigadzire maguta edu nekukura maguta edu. Asi chokwadika, nzira yatinofamba nayo mumaguta ine ngozi zvakare kune zvipenyu zvakasiyana-siyana. Zvinotungamira mukuparadzana kwenzvimbo, iyo ine nharo huru yekutyisidzira kune zvipenyu zvakasiyana-siyana pachayo paunenge uchibvisa pekugara. Uye zvechokwadi kupatsanurwa kunoreva kuti, iwe unoziva, uri kurasikirwa nenzvimbo dzekutama kwechisikigo, uri kurasikirwa nehukuru hwemamwe marudzi emhuka kuti dzikwanise kuvhima kana kuunganidza zviwanikwa zvadzo.
Uye kunyanya imwe yemhando dzinonyanya kushanda ndezvipembenene zvedu, sezvawataura, Jackie. Uye iwe unoziva, vanhu vanowanzo shamisika, zvakaita, zvakanaka, munoziva, nei ndiine hanya nezvipembenene? Ndine hanya nenzou nedindingwe. Uye ini ndinonzwisisa kuti zvipembenene zvingave zvisiri izvo zvinofadza zvezvipenyu zvatinazvo, asi ivo, kutaura zvazviri, vanoumba machira e hammock yehupenyu. Ndivo vari pahunhu chaihwo, munoziva, ndidzo hombe hombe dzepasi rose, izvo zveshuwa, zvakakosha pakupihwa kwechikafu. Ndivo vapambi vakuru. Iwe unoziva, ivo vanove nechokwadi chekuora kweiyo organic matter iyo inodzokera muvhu uye inodzoka semhando nyowani dzehupenyu.
Uye ivo vanopa iyi inoshamisa litmus bvunzo kana iyi biomarker yezvipenyu zvakasiyana zvachose. Saka izvo zvatinoona munzvimbo dzakaderedza zvipenyu zvakasiyana-siyana, huwandu hwezvipembenene hwakanga huri hwekutanga kuenda. Saka une hukama uhwu apo kana huwandu hwezvipembenene hukadzikira, zvipenyu zvese zvinodzikira. Saka zvine musoro kuti isu tinonyatsoda kutarisa uye kubata twupukanana hwedu kuti tikwanise kupa proxy kune manejimendi ezvimwe zvipenyu zvakasiyana. Asi nyaya yaivepo kare ndeyekuti takashaya nzira dzekuyera huwandu hwezvipembenene.
Uye ndinoreva, kufunga kuri nyore. Zvipembenene zvakaoma kuyera uye kuverenga.
Uye isu tine, munoziva, takave nemhando dzakasiyana dzesainzi yevagari vemo vakabatsira, asi ivo vasina chimwe, munoziva, ese anonyatso kutendeseka. Saka chaizvo musika waive waibva kune chinangwa chekuyera huwandu hwezvipembenene kuitira kuti tive neiyo proxy yezvipenyu zvakasiyana-siyana zvakazara.
[00:11:09] Jackie De Burca: Saka ngatitaure nezve nyaya iri kuseri kweiyo mamiriro ehunyanzvi hwekuongorora zvipenyu zvipenyu uye kuti izvi zvinoshanda sei.
[00:11:18] Nadina Galle: Ehe, saka ndiyo nyaya yandinovhara mubhuku rinonzi Diopsis kamera. Uye iyo Diopsis kamera ndiyo mhinduro yedambudziko iri. Dambudziko iri ndangoritsanangura ndichiedza kugadzira a.
Ndizvo. Chaizvoizvo, inoratidzika setafura duku. Uye pamusoro petafura iyo yaungaisa mumafuro kana pamunda wekurima, kana pamusoro pedenga remba muguta chero kwaunoda kuyera huwandu hwezvipembenene, ndiyo tafura yesimbi iyi. Pamusoro pazvo, iwe une izvi zvakachengetedzwa kubva kuzvinhu kamera, uye ipapo iwe une iyi yero yekumhara pad. Chikonzero chiri yeyero ndechekuti yero iruvara rwunoda kukwezva tupembenene twakawanda tunobhururuka. Saka iyi kamera, chaizvo kuti inoshanda sei inotora foto mumasekonzi gumi ega ega, uye pese paine tumbuyu pane iyo yero yekumhara pad, inobva yamhanya nemukombuta vision algorithm kuti ione kwete chete rudzi rwechipembenene ichocho, asiwo kuyera. biomass yayo. Uye mupfungwa iyoyo, tinowana nzira chaiyo yekuyera huwandu hwezvipembenene zvinobhururuka, izvo, zvamazvirokwazvo, yatove imwe yezvisingakwanisi. Inongotarisa zvipembenene zvinobhururuka, asi ndiyo imwe yenzira dzakanakisa dzatinadzo izvozvi yekutanga kuyera huwandu hwezvipembenene. Asi chechipiri, zvakare, ndinovimba, ndingati iyo huru yekushandisa kesi yeiyi ndeyekuongorora kana mari nekudyara, uye pane yakawanda nguva pfupi yadarika iri kudururwa mumatanho emhando dzakasiyana-siyana uye kupindira kuri kushanda nekuti, ndinofunga, munoziva. , kusiyana-siyana kwezvinhu zvipenyu kunonzwa kusinganzwisisiki uye kusinganzwisisiki. Iwe unoziva, iwe unotoenda sei pakuona kuti mari yauri kudurura mairi iri kubatsira? Ichi chi. Iyi ndiyo imwe nzira yekuita izvozvo.
[00:13:09] Jackie De Burca: Ehe, izvo zvakakosha. Ndinoreva, zviri pachena, chero mari kana makambani, iwe unoziva, ari kuisa mari mune izvi, ivo vanoda kuona imwe mhando yekudzoka uye kukwanisa, munoziva, kukurukura izvozvo mukati memapuranga avo uye zviri pachena kana vanazvo, munoziva. , vagovani uye vanoisa mari uye zvichingodaro. Saka zvakakosha, chaizvo, handizvo here?
[00:13:30] Nadina Galle: Ehe, uye zvakanyanya. Ndinoreva, zvakawanda izvi. Imari yehurumende, saka yese imari yemutero. Saka, iwe unoziva, vanhu vanoda kuve nechokwadi chekuti munguva ine zvakawanda zvakasiyana zvinokwikwidza zvido, kunyangwe mune zvakatipoteredza uye mamiriro ekunze, kuti tinoda kuve nechokwadi chekuti tiri kushandisa mari yedu nehungwaru.
[00:13:46] Jackie De Burca: Chimwe chinhu chaida kuziva. Tinoona magadzirirwo anoitwa shiri nembeva kune rumwe rutivi, izvo ndakaona zvichinakidza chaizvo. Asi zvakare kune rumwe rutivi, kune zvirwere zvitsva uye maitiro matsva ane ngozi ezvimwe zvisikwa. Ikozvino, semuenzaniso, imwe yenyaya yezvidzidzo yaunotaura nezvayo mubhuku ndeyekuwanikwa kweruvara rwakareruka rweMamwe hozhwa, izvo zvakaitika nekuti vakajairana nenharaunda yavo.
Izvi zvakawanikwa sei uye ndeapi maturusi ave kuwanikwa maererano nenzvimbo iyi?
[00:14:21] Nadina Galle: Ehe, saka izvi, izvi zvinoshamisa, iyi pfungwa yekushanduka kwemadhorobha. Izvi zvave kunyatsozivikanwa nemusayendisiti wechiDutch, nyanzvi yezvipembenene pakutanga, asi inyanzvi yekushanduka-shanduka kwezvipenyu mupfungwa yezwi renyika. Zita rake ndiMenno Schildhausen uye anoshanda mumyuziyamu yezvipenyu zvakasiyana siyana nenzvimbo inonzi Naturalis muNetherlands muLeiden. Uye akatarisa pamienzaniso yakawanda yakasiyana-siyana yechiitiko ichi, chaanodaidza kuti kushanduka kwemaguta. Uye saka izvo zvinogona kutora zvakanyanya kuti chii. Takambofunga kuti dzidziso yaDarwin yemhindumupindu, taisazokwanisa kuona izvozvo muupenyu hwomunhu. Rudyi. Hatigoni kuona mhindumupindu ichiitika. Izvo zvaive, iwe unoziva, chimwe chezvikonzero zvakakosha izvo Darwin aive nedambudziko rakawanda mukukurudzira dzidziso dzake. Nemhaka yokuti vanhu vakanga vachiomerwa nokudavira kuti ikoku kwaigona kuitika nemhaka yokuti vakanga vasingazvioni nameso avo vamene. Uye zvatiri kuona nekushanduka-shanduka kwemaguta, muhupfupi hwehupenyu hwezvipenyu zvakaita sezvimwe zvipembenene uye seshiri uye sezvimwe zvinomera, tinogona kunyatsoona shanduko munguva chaiyo, sekutaura kunoita Mennosculfeizer. Saka muenzaniso weizvi ungave wekuti mumaguta mune mamwe marudzi ezvirimwa akashanduka chaizvo kuti adonhedze mhodzi dzawo pedyo nechirimwa chaamai pane kushanduka kwekare. Ikoko mbeu idzodzo, ungatoda kuti dzive dzakareruka uye nyore nyore kubata mhepo kuitira kuti dzipararire zvakafara. Rudyi. Nekuti ndicho chinangwa chekupedzisira chekushanduka-shanduka, kuparadzira mhuka dzako dzakakura sezvingabvira uye kushandisa niches yakawanda sezvaunokwanisa. Uye rudzi urwu rwechirimwa rwakashanduka chaizvo kudonhedza mhodzi dzayo pedyo nechirimwa chaamai. Nekuti mukati, iwe unoziva, asphalt, kongiri akatakurwa maguta, iwe unokwanisa kumisa kana ukadonha padyo nechirimwa chaamai, nekuti isu tinoziva kuti chirimwa icho chakakwanisa kudzika midzi mune imwe ivhu kupesana hongu, unogona kupararira kure. . Asi kana mbeu idzodzo, munoziva, dzakamhara paasphalt kana mumugwagwa, zviri pachena kuti hadzizokwanisa kubudirira.
Saka ndiyo yakanaka kupenga. Imwezve makunguwo atotanga kurira zvakanyanya kuti anyatsonzwa mumwe nemumwe pamusoro pemaruzha etraffic, izvo zvinopenga chaizvo kwandiri.
[00:16:47] Jackie De Burca: Iwe unayo, zvinoshamisa.
[00:16:49] Nadina Galle: Saka zvinotonhorera. Uye pane, pane, ndinoreva, saka Menuscule akanyora bhuku rino uye rinoshamisa, rimwe rezvandinoda rinonzi Darwin Comes to Town. Iro zita rakanaka. Uye ane chaizvo, ibhuku rakazara nemhando idzi dzemienzaniso. Uye ndaigona kuramba ndichienda nekuti vanongo nakidza. Asi imwe yacho.
[00:17:08] Jackie De Burca: Enda, tiudze zvimwe. Chokwadi mumwe wavo.
[00:17:14] Nadina Galle: Imwe yedzimwe idzi dzandinofunga kuti dzakaipa zvakare dzakafanana nekupenda kwetsindi. Saka imi matsindi makanga muri. Saka kwandakakurira kumaodzanyemba kwakadziva kumadokero kweOntario, une squirrel yekumabvazuva grey uye une imwe yakasviba zvishoma. Saka kwandakakurira, senge munzvimbo ine sango rakawanda, sekunge iwe unogara uchiona grey squirrels, senge ndiyo yaive yakakurumbira. Waizozviona nguva dzose. Zvino pandakanga ndava nemakore 18, ndakatamira kuToronto kuti ndinodzidzira bhachura rangu uye waiona squirrels grey dzimwe nguva.
Nguva zhinji waiona idzi dzakanyanya kusviba, dzinenge dema dzakasiyana dzetsindi idzi. Saka ndakatanga kufunga nezvazvo. Uye vanodzidza nezvezvinhu zvipenyu vakanga vaona kuti tsindi nhema idzi dzaiuya dzichiwedzera kufarirwa munzvimbo dzemumaguta nekuti waiona zviri nani kutarisana negreyscape ari maguta edu. Saka magire egrey ainyanya kuve angangoita maroadkill mumaguta nekuda kweruvara rwawo. Nekuti unovaonawo vachipesana nematsindi matema, vakamira zvakanyanya. Saka kune mamwe madhiri matema aya. Saka ingori mienzaniso yakadaro. Zvingori, zvinoshamisa nekuti unogona chaizvo, sezvandataura, unogona kuona izvi munguva chaiyo. Iwe unogona kuona izvi mukati mechikoro. Uye mumwe wemienzaniso yainyanya kufarirwa naMenno waive uku kupendeka kwehozhwa, kunyanya iyi, iyi modhi yezvisikwa iyo inoshandiswa mukutsvagisa kwakasiyana kwezve ecology. Ecological research yakaidana. Ndinoreva kuti zvakangofanana nehozhwa yako yegadheni. Uye chaizvo madzidzisiro aaida kudzidza izvi, uye aya ndiwo madzidzisirwe akawanda enyaya dzekushanduka kwemadhorobha, kuri kuburikidza nekushandiswa kwematani nematani emasampling. Nekuti iwe unoda kuve nechokwadi kuti iyi haisi imwe chete kubva, handiti? Iwe unoda kuve neshuwa kuti iwe unogona chaizvo kutaurira evolutionary maitiro nehuwandu hukuru, iwe unoziva, mamwe masampuli zviri nani.
Asi unoita sei? Iwe unoziva, haungakwanise kutumira uto kuti utore ese akasiyana masampuli ezvidyarwa zvakasiyana uye kutora mapikicha etsindi nehozhwa. Saka vanoshandisa simba resaenzi yevagari uye vakagadzira app inonzi Snail Snap uye vakakoka vanhu mumaguta ese akasiyana muNetherlands kuti vatore mafoto erudzi urwu rwehozhwa. Uye izvo zvakashanda chaizvo nekuti ivo vanonyatso zivikanwa, vari nyore kugadzirisa, kuziva, uye ivo havafambi nekukasira, saka vari nyore kutora mifananidzo. Uye vakaunganidza chinhu chakadai, ndinofunga yaive 8,300 geolocated uye izvo zvaive zvakakosha. Geolocated mifananidzo yehozhwa idzi. Uye ivo zvakare vakamhanyisa kuburikidza necomputer vision algorithm, uye vakakwanisa kuona kuti hozhwa dzaive munzvimbo dzakakora pakati peguta paavhareji, dzaive nemateko akareruka pane ayo aive kunze kweguta.
Chaizvoizvo, hozhwa yebindu iyi yava kusanduka kuita marudzi maviri akasiyana. Uye iyo inogara mumadhorobha akaomerwa ine ganda rakareruka nekuti inokwanisa kuzobata nekupisa kwakanyanya zvirinani, nekudziya kuri nani. Uye ndakafunga kuti izvi zvainakidza nekuti chaizvo zvazvinoita ndezvekuti ruvara rwemba yayo, denga rayo, hureruke. Uye iyi ndiyo nzira yatinoonawo vanhu vachiita. Kana isu tisingakwanisi kuita a girinhi denga pamusoro pedu zvivakwa, chimwe chezvinhu zvinodhura zvakanyanya zvatingaite kupenda matenga edu machena kuti vagone kuratidza mwenje zvirinani saka chengetedza yedu. misha inotonhorera zvakare. Saka zvinongonakidza, imwe, kuona simba remugari sainzi mune izvi, zviviri, kuona kuti hozhwa dziri kushanduka nenzira iyi, uye zvitatu, zvinhu izvo isu vanhu tinogona kudzidza kubva kune hozhwa.
[00:21:01] Jackie De Burca: Zvinoshamisa chaizvo. Zvinhu zvinonakidza chaizvo, Nadina, paunofunga nezvazvo, senge, squirrel nehozhwa zvawabva kutaura nezvazvo, senge, zvinofanirwa kushanduka uye zvinofanirwa kushandura pigment yavo neimwe nzira. Pigmentation, chaizvoizvo.
[00:21:17] Nadina Galle: Hongu, hongu. Kupona. Uye ndicho chinhu chinopenga. Zvakafanana. Uye zvechokwadi, izvozvo. Kushanduka-shanduka. Rudyi. Saka zvazvinoreva ndezvekuti hozhwa dzine makwati ane ruvara rwakati piriviri dzinokurumidza kuparara kupfuura dzine hozhwa dzine ruvara rwakareruka. Saka avo vari kuparara. Izvi zvinoreva kuti mhando dzakareruka dzine mukana wakawanda wekubereka. Uye nekufamba kwenguva. Uye zvechokwadi, iwe unoziva, hozhwa dzine hupenyu hupfupi nekufamba kwenguva, iyo inokurumidza kukurumidza. Muhupenyu hwemunhu, isu tinokwanisa kuona kuti ruzhinji rwehozhwa dzinobva dzave nemateko akareruka.
[00:21:51] Jackie De Burca: Hongu, zvachose. Saka nyaya dzinonakidza dzauri kugovera mubhuku. Kune mamwe maturusi makuru zvakare aunoshandisa. Imwe inonzi birdcast, uye imwe inonzi earthsnap. Ndezvipi uye ndiani akazvisika?
[00:22:07] Nadina Galle: Hongu. Saka Earth Snap yaive. Ini ndichatanga neiyoyo, nekuti yakafanana neSnail snap mupfungwa yekuti inokwanisa kuziva mhando. Kunyangwe Earth Snap isingangoiti izvo zvehozhwa, inozviita kumamiriyoni emaruva nemhuka kutenderera pasirese. Muvambi ndiEric Rawls. Anobva kuTexas, zvino anogara kuColorado. Uye pakutanga akatanga nechimwe chinhu chinonzi Earth.com, icho chaive chinangwa chake chikuru muhupenyu, chaive chekugadzira iyi hombe repositi yemifananidzo nekucherechedza uye ruzivo nezvemarudzi ese ari paNyika. Ndicho chaiva chinangwa chake. Zvichienderana neruzivo irworwo, akabva atanga chimwe chinhu chinonzi PlantSnap, icho chaive, nanhasi, chimwe chezvakanakisa chirimwa chinozivisa maapplication pamusika.
Asi mushure mekubudirira kweVashandi veChirimwa, akada kutowedzera, uye akafunga kuvhura iyo Earth.com repository kugadzira zvese muchirimwa chimwe, munoziva, maruva nemhuka inozivisa app. Uye iye zvino ari kushanda nesimba kuti akure iyo app. Uye anovimba, ndinoreva, senge app inonzi Inaturalist, iyo inoshandiswawo zvakanyanya uye zvakanyanya kutsvagisa sainzi, anotarisira kuti ichi chinhu chatakatanga hurukuro nacho, chinogona kubatsira kurwisa icho chatinodaidza. chirimwa upofu. Nekuti ini ndinotenda kuti zvese zvinotanga neruzivo chete uye kuziva uye kunzwisisa. Kuwedzera kwatinogona kunzwisisa chinokura uye chii chinogara zvakatitenderedza, patinowedzera kunzwisisa nezvazvo, tinowedzera kukwanisa kuzvitarisira uye nekuwanda kwatichaita, tine tariro, kuidzivirira. Saka ndiye Eric Rawls uye Earth Snap, uye ipapo Birdcast yakanyatso gadzirwa nevatsvaguri veCornell University pamwe chete nechimwe chinonzi Merlin. Merlin imwe app iri chaizvo. Zvakafanana neShazam yekuimba kweshiri. Vanonyatso kwanisa kuziva rwiyo rweshiri runobva pakuimba kweshiri chete. Iwe une kurekodha kweiyo kana iwe unoiridza ichirarama kana kurekodha ichirarama, uye inokwanisa kuzviziva uye netarisiro kuziva kuti rwiyo urwu nderwei. Uye iyi ingori nzira itsva yekuzviita. Nekuti, hongu, sezvaungafungidzira, nezvinhu zvakaita, neapp senge Earth Snap, zvinomera zviri nyore kutora mifananidzo. Havafambi. Dzimwe mhando dzemhuka. Zvakare nyore kutora mifananidzo yeshiri, Zvakanyanya, zvakaoma kwazvo. Saka kuva nechimwe chinhu chakaita seMerlin chinonyatso, chinonakidza nekuti chinokwanisawo. Munoziva, chatinokwanisa kuita ipapo ndechekuti tinokwanisa kutora marekodhi pakati pepaki, pakati pesango, pakati pebindu repamusoro pedenga remba. Isu takakwanisa kutora zvinyorwa izvi uye zvichibva pane izvo zvakarekodhwa, takwanisa kuziva kuti ndedzipi shiri dziri munzvimbo iyoyo. Uye nzira yavanozviita nayo chakagadzirwa njere inonakidza chaizvo. Ivo havazviite chete pakurekodha odhiyo. Chavanoita chaizvo ndechekuti vanoshandura rekodhi yekurekodha kuita, ndinotenda inonzi a. Inonzi sonogram, kwaunayo, senge, mufananidzo unooneka weiyo odhiyo? Uye zvichibva pane izvo, zvakanaka, vanokwanisa kumhanyisa hungwaru hwavo uye vanonyatso ziva, zvakanaka, ndeapi ma sonograms anonyanya kufanana kune mumwe nemumwe uye angangove ari eiyo shiri chaiyo. Zvekare, hapana yemaapplication aya akakwana. Hapana kana chimwe chazvo chinotsiva, munoziva, mucherechedzi weshiri anofa kana kuti die hard naturalist, hongu. Asi ini ndinofunga ingori nzira yakanaka yekugonesa kudyidzana kwekutanga nemasikirwo uye nedzimwe mhando dzatinogara pakati pekuti vanhu vangasazokwanisa kuva nazvo.
[00:25:42] Jackie De Burca: Chokwadi. Kwete, kwete, kwete, zvachose. Uye zvakare, iwe unoziva, iwe unokonzeresa maitiro ekufunga sezvauri. Zvauri kutaura zvese izvi. Uye ndinoshamisika, ndinoziva kuti tine kadiki kemutsauko wezera, angangoita makore makumi maviri kana zvishoma kudarika, ndinofunga.
Asi ndinoshamisika, Nadina, wakambosanganawo nazvo here maererano nemhuri yako kudzokera kuna sekuru nasekuru vako kwazvaive zvakajairika Ayarendi? Chokwadi kwandiri, kuti ambuya vangu vataure nezve, senge, zvisikwa, zvinomera zvechisikigo zvinogona kuporesa chimwe chinhu, chimwe chinhu cherumwe rudzi. Saka hazvisi kure zvakadaro. Hazvisi kure kumashure ndizvo zvandiri kuedza kutaura, sezvo, iwe unoziva, zvaive zvinogoneka kufunga nezvezvirimwa semushonga.
[00:26:23] Nadina Galle: Hongu, zvachose. Uye ndinofunga, ndinoreva, ambuya vangu vakashanda zvakafanana, uye kunyange amai vangu vakaita kune imwe nhanho. Uye ndicho chinhu chandinotenda kuti ndizvo. Yakarasika mukati, ngatitii, chizvarwa cheGen Z chemireniyumu, kana kutopfuura kumashure. Asi ini ndinoona uku kumuka kukuru. Senge, ndinofunga kune toni yekufarira kutsvagazve, munoziva, tinoita sei chikafu kubva pakutanga? Ndinoreva, tarisa chete shanduko yechingwa yakabikwa yatakaona panguva yeCOVID apo munhu wese akatanga kugadzira chingwa chavo kumba. Ndinoreva, chaive, icho chaive chimwe chinhu chaive chakajairika, chakajairika, munoziva, kutora mashoko asina kutaurwa, kare muzuva ratakaita, munoziva, takaita sokudaro. Tarasa hunyanzvi ihwohwo nekuti hapana akatidzidzisa, nekuti vanamai vedu kana madzibaba edu vakarasa hunyanzvi uhu sekuti, unoziva, zvakawanda, sekusona, unoziva, kwapera, unoziva. , yaenda neradar kana zvinhu zvakaita se, unoziva, zvekutanga, zvekutanga, sekugadzirisa bhasikoro kana zvekutanga, unoziva, zvemagetsi kana kugadzirisa midziyo.
Iwe unoziva, isu takarasika mune yedu, iwe unoziva, nyika yedu yevatengi uye kuti zviri nyore sei kutsiva zvinhu zvakasiyana uye kutarisisa kwedu nezvese zvitsva uye kuve nekuvandudzwa kune izvi, munoziva, tekinoroji uye zvinhu izvi. Ndinofunga kuti hatichazvioni. Asi ini ndinotenda kuti kune uku kumuka kukuru. Uye unozviona muzvinhu zvakaita sevanhu vari kuda kugara pamba, kunyangwe mukati, munoziva, matare emudhorobha akakomba, vanhu vanoda kurima chikafu chavo, kunyangwe pamabhakoni, rudzi rutsva rwekutangazve mukuvhima uye mukati senge kunze kwerenje kuongorora uye kuvhima vanopona. . Senge, ndinonzwa sekunge kune iyi yakakura rudzi rwekutangazve mukufarira izvo zvinhu pamwe nekugadzira kumba. Uye ini ndinofunga kuti yakanaka chaizvo nekuti yakawanda yeruzivo irworwo, imwe, ndinofunga inoita kuti hupenyu hwedu hunakidze uye huwedzere kunaka kuti tikwanise kupfuudza rudzi irwo rwehuchenjeri neruzivo. Uye pakupedzisira, ndinofunga kuti zvisikwa zvine zvakawanda zvemhinduro. Isu takangoita setakakanganwa kuteerera.
[00:28:28] Jackie De Burca: Chokwadi, zvachose. Saka izvo zvinonditungamira paNadina kuchitsauko chechitanhatu. Uye ini ndinonyatsoda zita rawakapa musayendisiti mukati medu, izvo zvinoshamisa chaizvo maererano nekukurudzira vagari sainzi, sainzi uye kubatanidzwa.
Saka takaita setakabata pane izvo mune mamwe mazinga. Chii chinonzi dhorobha repasi rose Wildlife kuongorora kuburikidza neGuta Nature Challenge?
[00:28:56] Nadina Galle: Ehe, ndinonyatsoda uyu muenzaniso weGuta Nature Challenge nekuti ini ndinofunga zvakanyanya kana aya maturusi ekutarisa uye matekinoroji, munoziva, vanowanzogara munyanga dzenzou dzedzidzo uye zvinonzwa zvakaoma. kuti mugari wepakati wako atore chikamu.
Uye izvo zvinoitwa neGuta Nature Dambudziko ndezvekuti zvinokoka husiku hwemadhorobha kubva pasirese pasi rese gore rimwe chete mune ino yemazuva mana BioBlitz. Zvinowanzoitika pakupera kwaKubvumbi, kutanga kwaChivabvu, uye zvakatanga muna 2016. Saka vachangobva kuve neshanduro yavo yechipfumbamwe muna 2024. Uye yakatanga semakwikwi akapusa, ish makwikwi pakati peLos Angeles neSan Francisco. Yakarongwa neCalifornia Academy yeScience uye Los Angeles County Museum yeNatural History. Uye zvaiitirwa kushandisa iyo app inaturalist senzira yekuita kuti vagari vabatanidzwe mumaguta aya kuti vatore mifananidzo, vaone uye varodhe zvakaonekwa zvakawanda zvekusiyana zvipenyu zvemuno mukati meguta miganhu kune inaturalists sezvinobvira.
Uye izvi zvakanyanyisa. Zvakaita kuti vanhu vakawanda vanobatanidzwa gore negore. Yakakura kubva kune chimwe chinhu chaingova mumaguta maviri aya kuenda kune chimwe chaive muCalifornia chete, kuenda kune chimwe chaive muUS chete kuenda kune chimwe changotora nyika. Muchinyorwa chakapfuura muna 2024, anopfuura 700 maguta akatora chikamu.
Ndakasvika pakuva chikamu charo mu la, kwete guta guru, asi guta gurusa muBolivia. La Paz akanyatso kuve akahwina mukombe weCity Nature Challenge kwemakore matatu apfuura akatevedzana. Ini ndaifanira kunge ndiripo neheti yangu yeNational Geographic Explorer, ndichigadzira gwaro nezveGuta Nature Challenge uye chii chatungamira La Paz mukukunda uku.
Uye pane zvinhu zviviri zvandakadzidza. Imwe, lapasse ndeimwe yemhando dzakasiyana-siyana dzepasi rose. Rudyi. Saka izvo zvinoita kuti kuhwina chimwe chinhu chakadai maererano nemhando dzakawanda dzakaonekwa uye zvakanyanya kucherechedzwa zvakaita kuti zvive nyore. Asi La Paz akakundawo nokuda kwokuva nevanhu vakawanda vanobatanidzwa, vanobatanidzwa, chinova chinhu icho guta rimwe nerimwe, hongu, rinogona kukwikwidza. Uye imwe yenzira dzavakanga vari chombo chavo chakavanzika, kana muchida, kuti vaikwanisa kuita. Izvi ndizvo vaive nesangano renzvimbo, chitsauko cheBolivian che Wildlife Conservation Sosaiti, nyatsobatikana uye shandisa hukama hwavo kubatanidza chero chikoro chesekondari uye yunivhesiti uye koreji muLa Paz. Saka mumazuva mana aya imhaka yekuti zvinowanzoitika. Kune Chishanu uyezve Mugovera, Svondo, uyezve Muvhuro. Saka musi weChishanu neMuvhuro, havana chikoro. Chikoro chavo chezuva iro ndechekufamba rwendo rwakatungamirwa kuenda kumapaki emarudzi akasiyana, mapaki akasiyana, kunyangwe mumugwagwa, senge idzi nzvimbo dzakasiyana dzavanosarudza. Uye vanotumira mabhazi akazara nevadzidzi kunzvimbo idzi dzakasiyana pane idzi nzendo dzemumunda kuti vaende uye vaone mhando dzakawanda sezvinobvira. Uye ivo vanove neizvi sechikamu chedzidzo yavo yemwaka iwoyo apo ivo vanobva vanyatsoita mapurojekiti zvichienderana nekuona kwavakaita. Uye ndakasangana nemudzidzisi webiology anoshamisa, Mai Gladys. Uye Mai Gladys, mudzidzisi webiology, anoti kuvadzidzi vake, senge, hakusi kupera kwezuva rako rechikoro kutozosvikira waziva kanenge mazana maviri asiri marudzi, kutozosvikira waita kanenge mazana maviri echerechedzo. Uye zvechokwadi iwe unowana mamwe mapoinzi. Uno. Saka zvakare, zvatakatanga nhaurirano iyi naJackie, iyi pfungwa yekupofumadza kwezvirimwa uye ndingati mhando yemaruva neupofu hwemhuka zvakazara. Zvauri kuita ndezvekuti uri kuendesa vana vechidiki kumaguta avo, kwavanogara, kwavanokurira, uko mhuri dzavo dzinobva gore rega rega mukupemberera kwakanaka kwemhuka dzemudhorobha. Uye uri kuvabvunza zvakananga kuti vatore chikamu, kwete chete nekutora zvavanoona nekudzidza nezvazvo, asiwo nekunzwisisa zvinokura munharaunda yavo uye nekunakidzwa nazvo nenzira yavanogona kuudza mhuri dzavo uye netariro vana vavo nezvazvo. mune ramangwana.
Uye ingori nzira yakanaka kudaro nekuti hunhu hwemudhorobha hwatorwira rudzi irworwo rwekuzivikanwa kuti rwakakodzera. Uye chandinoda pamusoro peizvi izuva mana BioBlitz. Rinenge rakaita sezororo, kupemberera hunhu hwemaguta gore negore. Uye kudos kuna Allison Mudiki naLila Higgins, avo vakatanga uye vakatanga dambudziko iri makore ese apfuura.
Uye ndinoziva kutaura naAlison Mudiki, anofemerwa kure nekure kwaakaita, nzvimbo dzakafara dzekusvika dzaakaenda, uye huwandu hwevanhu vanopinda gore negore. Icho chinhu chaicho.
Ndichangotaura zvinhu zviviri zvandaifarira zvandakadzidza munguva yakapfuura. Imwe yacho yaiva nyoka yokuBolivia, iyo yaifungidzirwa kuti yakatsakatika muLa Paz. Chaizvoizvo yakanga isati yaonekwa kweanopfuura makore makumi mana. Yakanga isati yaonekwa uye yakawanikwa zvakare nemudzidzi wepachikoro chepamusoro panguva yeCity Nature Challenge. Vakatora mufananidzo wacho.
[00:34:15] Jackie De Burca: Saka zvinongo shamisa. Fungidzira kuti mudzidzi wacho akanzwa sei.
[00:34:20] Nadina Galle: Zvaikatyamadza. Ndinoreva, nyaya yakafanana yakaitika mukati, ndinotenda yaive West Virginia. Yaive tsikidzi yemapiritsi iyo yaivewo nyaya imwechete. Iwe unoziva, inofungidzirwa kuti yakatsakatika, yakanga isati yaonekwa mumakumi emakore nevaongorori, yakawanikwa zvakare nemudzidzi wemakore gumi nemashanu anotsanangurwa nababa vake seakapindwa muropa zvachose nefoni. Munoziva, akanga asingadi kuzviita uye baba vake vakaita sevamuita kuti azviite nefoni yake, blah, blah, blah. Anoenda, uye anotora mufananidzo webug repiritsi iri. Iye zvachose ane izvi senge hupenyu hunochinja nguva. Anoenda kune zvakachipa. Haangobudisi zvakawanikwa muzvidzidzo pamwe chete nevanhu vekuCalifornia Academy yeSainzi mune mumwe wezera rake akaongorora sainzi jenari asati apedza chikoro chesekondari, asi akaenderera mberi nekudzidza nezve zoology zvakare.
[00:35:02] Jackie De Burca: Iyo ingori nyaya inoshamisa kudaro. Uye zviripachena, hongu, unogona kufungidzira kuti kune vana kana vechidiki vane hupenyu hwakatenderedzwa kuburikidza neguta iri Nature dambudziko.
[00:35:16] Nadina Galle: Ah hongu. Ndinoreva kuti pane, pane, kune mienzaniso yakawanda kwazvo mubhuku zvakare. Senge pane imwe ine Heat Watch danidziro yatakakurukura. Ndinotenda yaive muchikamu chechipiri, iyi pfungwa. Isu tinokwanisa kuita izvi zviyero zvekupisa uye tembiricha munharaunda yako kuitira kuti iwe ugone kuumba zvirinani mutemo wegirini uye nzira dzekutonhodza dziri nani. Paive neizvi, paive nemudzidzi ipapo nekuti vanoedza kubatanidza vadzidzi vekusekondari zvakanyanya sezvinobvira pachirongwa ichocho zvakare. Paiva nemudzidzi wepachikoro chesekondari uyo kuburikidza nemushandirapamwe uya weHeat Watch akawana kuti imba yake paavhareji yaiita se10 kana 15 madhigirii kupisa kupfuura imba yeshamwari yake. Uye anga akafanana, zvine musoro nekuti isu tinogara tichienda kunotamba ikoko muzhizha nekuti kunotonhorera zvakanyanya kuseri kwemba yake uye mumugwagwa wake kupfuura zviri online. Aive, akafemerwa neizvi. Aitove padanho rekusiya chikoro nekuti mhuri yake yaive nenhamo yemari uye aida kusiya chikoro oshanda muchitoro kuti abatsire mhuri yake. Uye muvambi weHeat Watch, Vivek Shonda, akasangana nemudzidzi uye akatanga kumudzidzisa. Uye iye zvino ari muchirongwa chekupedza kudzidza chesainzi yezvakatipoteredza. Uye Vivek akangoramba achiti, ndinotenda kuti ndakanyora izvi mubhuku kuti senge haagone kumirira kumupinza basa kana apedza kudzidza nekuti akazviita achifemerwa nenyaya. Uye zvinongoratidza, sekunge kune akawanda akanaka, munoziva, izvi zvakakura pane kungochinja, munoziva, nharaunda dzedu uye kwatinogara. Asi pane, kune zvakare yakanaka mikana yebasa yevechidiki vedu pano. Uye isu tichazoda izvi chizvarwa chinouya ye, munoziva, Internet yezvakasikwa innovators kana techno ecologists kunyatso, munoziva, kutungamirira iyi avant garde. Uye zvinongoshamisa kuona zvirongwa zvakaita seizvi zvichiita mutsauko iwoyo.
[00:36:59] Jackie De Burca: Ndizvozvo chaizvo. Ndakafonerwa nezuro nelawyer aigara mu England maererano ne biodiversity net gain mutemo wakabuda kare muna 2024, muna Kukadzi ikoko. Uye izvo zvinongobatana nenyaya yekuti aive nebhizinesi zano rekuita nazvo. Uye isu tine kosi yatakagadzira pazviri. Uye zvese izvi zvakavakirwa pachokwadi chekuti hapana pese pese padhuze nevanokwana ecologist kuti vafambe vachingobata iwo mutemo chaiwo. Saka mudiki mudiki muenzaniso wezvawataura nemazvo, Nadina, kunova kuti chizvarwa chino chirikuuya izvozvi, pane senge mikana inoshamisa yekuti ivo vave vagadziri vekuchinja kukuru uye nekuzvibatanidza mune zvakasikwa, sezvaunotaura, iwe unoziva, , pamwe nekubatanidzwa nehunyanzvi hwekuita, izvo ndizvo chaizvo zvaunotaura nezvazvo, iwe unoziva.
[00:37:52] Nadina Galle: Kwete, ndicho chinhu. Uye, uye tichavada. Ndinoreva kuti taivada nezuro uye tatovada izvozvi. Saka ini, ndinofunga zvinoshamisa pamusoro peizvi ndezverudzi rwechizvarwa chinotevera chevechidiki avo vanofa zvakaoma zvakatipoteredza uye vanoda zvisikwa pamwoyo, asi zvakare ona simba iro tekinoroji inogona kubatsira, munoziva, kukunda pamusoro pevanhu vanofanirwa kuve. vakakunda zvakare uye vabatsirewo pabasa ravo. Ndinofunga kuti zvichanyanya kutsoropodza. Ini ndinozviona ini ndichifanira kuita zvishoma uye zvishoma kugutsikana pamusoro penzira dzine simba idzo tekinoroji inogona kutibatsira muhondo iyi uye yakawanda kuve chimwe chinhu chiri chechipiri.
[00:38:32] Jackie De Burca: Hongu. Ndinofunga, ndinofunga kuti ndizvo zvinofanira kuva zvakadaro. Ndinovimba, Nadine, sezvauri kutaura izvozvi, tataura zvakawanda zvakare, zvinoyevedza uye tine chimwe chikamu chekuti vateereri vedu vatarisire icho chichave chakanyanya kunangana zvakanyanya nezvehutano uye hutano nzira uye maitiro kubatanidza madosi ezuva nezuva echisikigo, tarisiro kune avo vanhu vanogona kuzvibata uye kuti izvo zvingakanganisa sei hutano hwevanhu. Saka zviri pachena kutarisira izvozvo uye tichange tichitaura zvakare munguva pfupi. Nadina, ndinokutendai zvikuru.
[00:39:02] Nadina Galle: Thanks, Jackie.








